>>43791831You'd be surprised. Nearly every Pokemon that isn't OU by usage, /vp/ likes to bitch about how "Smogon is too stupid to know how to use them correctly"
Also /vp/ thinks a Pokemon only get banned in tiers because "Smogon doesn't know how to counter it." Even though there have been many Pokemon throughout Smogon's history that have no counters and yet were kept in the tiers, such as Gen 5 Hydreigon, Mega Charizard X, etc. Like, Gen 3 Kyogre gets countered by Shedinja and Lanturn, but that doesn't mean Kyogre should be in OU because of it, since it would obviously be an unhealthy presence to any non-Uber format.
