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Anonymous Tue 16 Jun 2020 18:29:07 No.43887536 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>43887589 >>43887610 >>43889007 >>43889573 >>43890019 >>43891015 >>43891025 >>43895557

>send fast frail Pokemon
>opponent's bulky shit outspeeds and cheap shot you because of choice scarf
Why aren't choice items culled? Swsh was the perfect chance to get rid of this cancer, along the likes of hidden power.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jun 2020 18:30:30 No.43887553 Report

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At the very least it should announce when the Pokemon is using it the same way Air Balloon does.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jun 2020 18:32:51 No.43887589 Report

Quoted By: >>43890997

>>43887536
Hidden Power is coming back. Everything is coming back.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jun 2020 18:35:42 No.43887610 Report

Quoted By: >>43888320

>>43887536
>filtered by scarf
another pleb not cut out for the high-skill playstyle of hyper offense
good riddance

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jun 2020 19:36:42 No.43888320 Report

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>>43887610
>high-skill
>hyper offense

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jun 2020 19:55:53 No.43888559 Report

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But if it's scarfed, it loses to walls now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jun 2020 20:34:33 No.43889007 Report

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>>43887536
Imagine thinking you deserve to win just because you have the bigger number.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jun 2020 21:28:33 No.43889573 Report

Quoted By: >>43889618 >>43889770

>>43887536
Imagine thinking that GF culled based on balance.
Hidden power was removed because programming it to work with max moves is too hard. Same with Pursuit and its weird priority.
Choice items are easy to program, so they stay.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jun 2020 21:33:15 No.43889618 Report

Quoted By: >>43889753 >>43890116 >>43892396

>>43889573
Cope. HD needed to be removed. You don't deserve free coverage because you're a special attacker. Another reason why the split was a mistake

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jun 2020 21:46:01 No.43889753 Report

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>>43889618
I never said HP was a good or bad thing.
I just said Gamefreak's removal of it, like everything they do, had nothing to do with balance.
Any good decision they may make is a fluke.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jun 2020 21:47:15 No.43889770 Report

Quoted By: >>43889808 >>43889950

>>43889573
>He thinks max moves can't change type based on original move when Silvally can use every single max move off multistrike

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jun 2020 21:50:43 No.43889808 Report

Quoted By: >>43889950

>>43889770
Yes. They could do that. That is a way GF could handle it.
But they'd need to specifically program it that way, and makingu gaemu is very hard

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jun 2020 22:04:47 No.43889950 Report

Quoted By: >>43890105 >>43892680

>>43889770
>>43889808
reminder that this is the reason why hidden power was removed, but not for these reasons. GF couldn't figure out a way to make hidden power work without giving every pokemon access to every max move (outside of Fairy) via hidden power. Whoever decided to delete hidden power saved us from dumb shit like TTar running HP-Flying to use Max Airstream.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jun 2020 22:10:54 No.43890019 Report

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>>43887536
Scarf is the only annoying one because speed is so important, specs and band are fine because they're easy to predict based on the mon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jun 2020 22:17:46 No.43890105 Report

Quoted By: >>43890178

>>43889950
The obvious idea would be to make HP automatically become the Normal-type variant while dynamaxed, since that's how it worked with Z-moves. It must not have been feasible to program or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jun 2020 22:18:37 No.43890116 Report

Quoted By: >>43891040

>>43889618
I just needed to make sure you know that nobody complained about Hidden Power until it was removed

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jun 2020 22:23:37 No.43890178 Report

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>>43890105
might be a problem since other moves that change type like Multistrike and Weather Ball change to their respective new type of Max Move.
Obvious idea then is to make HP turn into a unique normal type Max Move. Max Power or something like that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jun 2020 23:34:41 No.43890997 Report

Quoted By: >>43891048 >>43892265

>>43887589
Yeah, this.
GF's even gone on record saying the returning DLC mons were decided long before dexit was even announced. This is 100% a marketing decision.

Perhaps getting every model to work in the new engine wasn't a simple copy-paste job, but they never planned to cut them FOREVER. They just cut them until bringing them back could make them some money.

As for the missing attacks, most of them are shit and/or redundant, with a few exceptions. They're either going to rebalance them or bring them when they bring back old Pokemon.

Hidden Power will probably return when Unown does.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 16 Jun 2020 23:35:53 No.43891015 Report

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>>43887536
luckily zygarde isn't frail

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jun 2020 23:36:33 No.43891025 Report

Quoted By: >>43892066 >>43892126 >>43894093

>>43887536
Wow this is a new low for /vp/. Complaining about Choice items? The most balanced mechanics in the entire game that actually require a modicum of skill to use effectively and to detect when the opponent is using them? Fucks sake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jun 2020 23:37:36 No.43891040 Report

Quoted By: >>43892050

>>43890116
I complained about it plenty. Shit was stupid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jun 2020 23:38:37 No.43891048 Report

Quoted By: >>43891248

>>43890997
>GF's even gone on record saying the returning DLC mons were decided long before dexit was even announced.
Sauce?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jun 2020 23:54:28 No.43891248 Report

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>>43891048
I'm struggling to find it in my history, but I read it yesterday. I'll get back to you on that.

From what I remember, Masuda was asked if the dexit backlash had any influence on GF's decision to include old Pokemon in the DLC, and he said the DLC was always gonna have old Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jun 2020 01:09:44 No.43892050 Report

Quoted By: >>43892099

>>43891040
No you didn’t

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 17 Jun 2020 01:11:15 No.43892066 Report

Quoted By: >>43893748

>>43891025
Never forget

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jun 2020 01:13:50 No.43892099 Report

Quoted By: >>43892329

>>43892050
Yes I did. Just because you never saw it doesnt mean it didnt happen. I didnt see your mom suck 1000 cocks last night yet I can't rule out the possibility

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jun 2020 01:17:16 No.43892126 Report

Quoted By: >>43892145

>>43891025
Choice band/specs are good, but scarf only encourages people to either go hyper offense or bulky teams with no in-between

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jun 2020 01:19:07 No.43892145 Report

Quoted By: >>43892689

>>43892126
How?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jun 2020 01:30:36 No.43892265 Report

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>>43890997
Why do people keep talking as if the returning old Pokémon cost money to access? You can literally transfer them in from old games when the DLC hits without buying it, or even trade them from others

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jun 2020 01:38:19 No.43892329 Report

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>>43892099
I’ve never heard anyone talk about it. It was a literal non-complaint until it got cut

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 17 Jun 2020 01:46:32 No.43892396 Report

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>>43889618

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jun 2020 02:17:55 No.43892680 Report

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>>43889950
Why not just make it Max Strike, but with a different type?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jun 2020 02:19:34 No.43892689 Report

Quoted By: >>43892711

>>43892145
Scarf is good for hyper offense for obvious reasons. Makes your attackers faster.
Scarf is indirectly good for bulky teams because slow fatmons don't give a shit about how fast you are and scarfed opponents are basically just choice-locking themselves for nothing.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 17 Jun 2020 02:21:31 No.43892711 Report

Quoted By: >>43895783

>>43892689
>Scarf is good for hyper offense for obvious reasons.
You don’t play this game do you

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jun 2020 04:11:20 No.43893748 Report

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>>43892066
Regice is a better special wall than Blissey.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jun 2020 04:42:44 No.43894093 Report

Quoted By: >>43895237

>>43891025
>modicum of skill to use effectively
I use choice scarf and U-turn. I'm so skilled Xd.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jun 2020 07:36:57 No.43895237 Report

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>>43894093
>sends out bug immunity
Heh... Sorry kiddo...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jun 2020 08:44:58 No.43895557 Report

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>>43887536
Scarf is busted because of how speed works. You only need to be 1 point higher to always outspeed.
So a 1.5x boost is way too good. Fucking Vanilluxe with a scarf can speed tie Zeraora.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jun 2020 09:23:38 No.43895783 Report

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>>43892711
Of course I don't play fanfic shit.

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