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>>44018829
>I need a fire type on my team
Why do literally all normalfags think this. Hell, this board always bitches about how few there are in Hoenn and Sinnoh when there are other regions with even fewer of specific types.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jun 2020 07:09:43 No.44018853 Report

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>>44018829
Lil-zoom is using Ponyta because of shit game design anyway. Ponyta was always a shitmon that evolves too late, inferior to Arcanine, who actually deserves a regional form if a kanto pokemon must get one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jun 2020 07:10:02 No.44018857 Report

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>>44018829
Yes, diamond would have to be your first game to truly be that fucking stupid and blind. At least he grew up to realize his mistakes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jun 2020 07:12:56 No.44018873 Report

Quoted By: >>44018954 >>44018979 >>44019043

>>44018794
>NOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST MARKET THE WELL KNOWN POPULAR POKEMON! YOU NEED TO GIVE STUNKY AND GLAMEOW AND WORMADAM ATTENTION TOO!
cringe

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jun 2020 07:12:56 No.44018874 Report

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>>44018794
Pokemon is the most fun when they don't reuse pokemon
Gen1, Gen 5
The rest was lazy schlock that lacked the creativity to fill out their pokedex with new designs and relied on nostalgia baiting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jun 2020 07:17:21 No.44018914 Report

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>>44018794
If we're talking about unique designs, including Megas, G-Max, regional variants, and other formes, Pokemon has already crossed the 1000 point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jun 2020 07:23:52 No.44018954 Report

Quoted By: >>44018965 >>44019043

>>44018873
>mystery dungeon gave fucking CHATOT a major role and he ended up being one of the best characters in the entire franchise

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jun 2020 07:24:13 No.44018958 Report

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>>44018829
And... What's your point? Sinnoh has more than 151 and have Pokémon from Johto, Hoenn and Sinnoh too, so when you see everything new is from Kanto you realize these last three generations will get nothing (unless it is Lucario), even if they were in the same game and they are just as nostalgic for you

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jun 2020 07:25:01 No.44018965 Report

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>>44018954
This. Also Ash getting otherwise forgettable mons gives them a bump, except in Unova because that whole season was shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jun 2020 07:26:22 No.44018974 Report

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>>44018829
I legitimately don't understand what this is trying to imply

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jun 2020 07:27:06 No.44018979 Report

Quoted By: >>44018997

>>44018873
Do you not realize this gets you stuck in a cycle?
>Only market well known popular pokemon
>This makes those already well known pokemon even more popular, and keeps other pokemon in obscurity
>"Hmm, which pokemon should I use to market our new game? Well, the ones that are already popular!"
>Makes those pokemon even more popular again
>Rinse and repeat indefinitely

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jun 2020 07:28:09 No.44018982 Report

Quoted By: >>44019007

>>44018965
Could you imagine modern Ash having shit like Torkoal and Corphish on his team?
Hell, even Kingler was never a particularly beloved Pokemon until they gave Ash an absolute beast of a krab in the anime. It makes for far more memorable moments than RIZARDON BES FRENDU on repeat for decades

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jun 2020 07:29:34 No.44018993 Report

Quoted By: >>44019024

>>44018974
It’s pointing out how retarded the “hur dur kanto pandering” logic is when those “”kanto”” Pokemon show up in multiple games people grew up with.

If someone started with Sinnoh it should make no fucking difference if they give a regional form to Ponyta or a regional form to a gen 4 Pokemon because zoomie would have grown up with both regardless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jun 2020 07:30:56 No.44018997 Report

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>>44018979
Yes? Having a handful of recognizable characters that reach everyone is a more effective strategy than trying to throw all 900 of your fucking designs everywhere and barely appealing to anyone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jun 2020 07:32:39 No.44019007 Report

Quoted By: >>44019178 >>44019196

>>44018982
great, now compare the number of people who give a single fuck about torkoal, corphish, or kingler to the number of people who like charizard

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jun 2020 07:34:19 No.44019024 Report

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>>44018993
I mean, they don't give as much attention to later gens though. If you stick through multiple games this becomes apparent. I see no problem with pushing the well known designs but to pretend that they don't favor the early gens or that it doesn't really make a difference to newcomers is simply dishonest. It's all been around for long enough.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jun 2020 07:36:18 No.44019037 Report

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>>44018794
>900
>when there are regional forms
>alt forms
>branched evolutions
>shinies
Lol anon, we are already over 1k.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jun 2020 07:36:47 No.44019041 Report

Quoted By: >>44019059 >>44019080 >>44019104

>>44019024
>I mean, they don't give as much attention to later gens though
Why should they have to?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jun 2020 07:36:49 No.44019043 Report

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>>44018873
As >>44018954 said, it's not need a popular Pokémon to make a game enjoyable. PMD has major roles for Chatot, Loudred, Kecleon, Chimecho and even Bidoof.
Other Pokémon has gimmicks that would be excellent playable characters in games like Pokkén and Unite but they use the same roster over and over again (Kanto Pokémon + no-Kanto humanoids because they are easier to animate).
Pokémon games are funnier when there's no one Pokémon more important than another and bring us the chance to make new favorites and enjoy Pokémon that we didn't care about before

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jun 2020 07:39:15 No.44019059 Report

Quoted By: >>44019093

>>44019041
Because people is fucking tired about this? This thread is a proof of this

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jun 2020 07:42:10 No.44019080 Report

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>>44019041
Well, it's not like the franchise has 900 for no reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jun 2020 07:43:43 No.44019093 Report

Quoted By: >>44019114 >>44019132 >>44019141

>>44019059
Yeah, you’re right, Mario should stop using Bowser in everything because of the 5 autismos that exist somewhere who are tired of Bowser.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jun 2020 07:44:36 No.44019104 Report

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>>44019041
Because I said so little BITCH
Acting obtuse will not get you far before me

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jun 2020 07:44:48 No.44019107 Report

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>>44019080
Yeah and that reason isn’t to market them equally with the Pokemon people actually care about.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jun 2020 07:45:38 No.44019114 Report

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>>44019093
Do you work for Gamefreak?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jun 2020 07:47:30 No.44019129 Report

Quoted By: >>44019146 >>44019169 >>44019170

>>44019114
No. I’m just not an underaged autismo who thinks Stunky should be as important as Charmander.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 25 Jun 2020 07:47:49 No.44019132 Report

Quoted By: >>44019201

>>44019093
>Charizard from KANTOOOO became a meme for the community because this is ridiculous at this point
>"Nah it was 5 autismos"

Are you from TPC?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jun 2020 07:48:43 No.44019141 Report

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>>44019093
Mario isn't built on variety like Pokemon is
Ironic considering that Mario is constantly innovating and reimagining its own genre in a way that Pokemon seems to be unable to

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jun 2020 07:49:45 No.44019146 Report

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>>44019129
You don't work for Gamefreak, therefore you are nothing to me. Begone with your opinions, you're just another fan then. You have no importance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jun 2020 07:53:45 No.44019169 Report

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>>44019129
>Make a franchise
>Some of the most repeated statements for them were that all Pokémon are someone's fan and they are all valuable
>"We want to give all Pokémon the chance to shine"

>Immediately makes a game with the same roster again

If this wasn't never the idea then they shouldn't have built the franchise with promises they weren't going to keep

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Anonymous Thu 25 Jun 2020 07:53:45 No.44019170 Report

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>>44019129
It's funny because Skuntank got a major role in MD too, and he was a more interesting character than any Charizard appearance

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jun 2020 07:54:58 No.44019178 Report

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>>44019007
>ad populum

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jun 2020 07:58:21 No.44019196 Report

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>>44019007
Do you think Gamefreak should cut every Pokemon that isn't Charizard/Pikachu/Lucario?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jun 2020 07:59:06 No.44019201 Report

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>>44019132
Charizard is different from Ponyta. It's the mascot of Red and Fire Red, and so is far more associated with Kanto and Gen 1 than lesser known Gen 1 mons.
Moreover, after the OS ended in 2002, the Charizard pandering lulled for 6 years until Charizard reappeared in the BW anime. Then it was non-stop shilling to the present day.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jun 2020 08:00:57 No.44019212 Report

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>>44019170
Meanwhile...
>Did you now that leon, the unbeatable champion has a really strong charizard who's also unbeatable? Oh, and leon himself is strong too. And unbeatable. Just like this awesome charizard. Who's also really strong and unbeatable. Like leon himself, which is why he's the champion! An unbeatable champion. Why? Because he's like, really strong. His charizard is really strong too. And unbeatable. That's why leon's the champion. Because he's unbeatable, no thanks to his really strong charizard. It's really strong because no one has beaten it. Which explains why leon is the undefeated champion. Did i mention he's also strong?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jun 2020 08:11:46 No.44019286 Report

Quoted By: >>44019355

>>44018829
What is this trying to tell us? That if you liked a kanto pokemon your moral obligation is to have them forever everywhere in your franchise? I just dont like using pokemon i’ve already used. Your wojak says he likes ponyta and them doesnt?????? I dont
understand what that is trying to convey honestly. Probably just autism

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jun 2020 08:21:28 No.44019355 Report

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>>44019286
It attempts to criticize calling stuff like regional forms for Kantomons Kanto pandering because those Pokémon also existed in other generations that were the first games for some people. So Galarian Ponyta could also be "Sinnoh pandering" because it existed in DPPt.
Ironically DPPt's dex is obnoxiously Kanto which can already be understood as pandering, so the argument kind of contradicts itself by using gen 4 as an example.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jun 2020 08:26:09 No.44019387 Report

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>>44018829
>implying everyone here isn't a 30+ 300lb neckbeard

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jun 2020 08:52:52 No.44019541 Report

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>>44018852
If you have a Staraptor with with flying and fighting moves why even get a fire type?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jun 2020 08:59:19 No.44019587 Report

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>>44018827
TPCi doesn't deserve the crow

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jun 2020 09:13:05 No.44019660 Report

Quoted By: >>44019710

>>44018829
Regional forms are exempt from being lumped in with KANTOOOOOOO obnoxiousness because they are such a good and well executed concept

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jun 2020 09:19:07 No.44019710 Report

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>>44019660
Agree. However I would prefer see more Pokémon from other generations too, not mostly Kanto

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jun 2020 09:21:22 No.44019731 Report

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>>44018829
literally what is the argument here?

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