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Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 14:27:57 No.44057570 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>44057928 >>44058099 >>44058184 >>44058240 >>44058253 >>44058259 >>44058261 >>44058296 >>44058733 >>44061040 >>44061333

This is what awaits you at the top of Showdown ladder for Gen 8 OU

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 15:24:33 No.44057928 Report

Quoted By: >>44060750

>>44057570
Good thing that Melmetal, G-darmanitan and Kyurem-B were banned in order to save the stall meta.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 15:47:58 No.44058099 Report

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>>44057570
how are you supposed to punish constant switching of stall with the introduction of heavy duty boots

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 15:59:20 No.44058184 Report

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>>44057570
I still don't know why people still play OU, even with a fairly offensive team battles take ages. Top of the ladder is always the dude that made a antimeta team or someone that can focus for 200 turns

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 16:06:02 No.44058240 Report

Quoted By: >>44058266 >>44058276 >>44058279 >>44058733

>>44057570
+2 252 SpA Life Orb Alakazam Shadow Ball vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Mew: 468-551 (115.8 - 136.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 252 SpA Life Orb Alakazam Psyshock vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Rotom-Heat: 331-390 (108.8 - 128.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 252 SpA Life Orb Alakazam Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Mandibuzz: 363-428 (85.6 - 100.9%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO
+2 252 SpA Life Orb Alakazam Psyshock vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Toxapex: 374-439 (123 - 144.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 252 SpA Life Orb Alakazam Psyshock vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 464-546 (65.9 - 77.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
+2 252 SpA Life Orb Alakazam Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Unaware Quagsire: 247-291 (62.6 - 73.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery

btw here’s the team in case you were wondering.
https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/swsh-ou-bazaar.3656490/post-8512679

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 16:08:29 No.44058253 Report

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>>44057570
> Mew
> OU

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 16:09:10 No.44058259 Report

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>>44057570
Wtf I though Clef was the best OU mon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 16:09:16 No.44058261 Report

Quoted By: >>44058279

>>44057570
Stall isn't that hard to deal with this gen. It's just annoying because there's little you get out of wasting all that time. It's easier to forfeit and try to win 3 games in the same time it'd take to deal with the stall team.
That team in particular can get obliterated by a well-played Band Urshifu Single Strike, Conkeldurr, Haxorus, Heracross, Obstagoon, etc.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 16:10:02 No.44058266 Report

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>>44058240
> forgive my double-post, I'll just sage to not waste a bump
QUICK. BANNED. IN. LESS. THAN. EIGHT. HOURS.

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Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 16:11:12 No.44058276 Report

Quoted By: >>44059231 >>44060365 >>44060703

>>44058240
QUICK. BANNED. IN. LESS. THAN. EIGHT. HOURS.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 16:11:36 No.44058279 Report

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>>44058261
Oh scratch the Urshifu, just saw it's physdef from >>44058240 instead of the typical spdef.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 16:15:03 No.44058296 Report

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>>44057570
Ummm, based?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 17:13:49 No.44058733 Report

Quoted By: >>44060323

>>44057570
>>44058240
Honestly, how is Alakazam not seen as a major threat compared to Urshifu, Magearna, and Volcarona?

I even got an infraction for comparing Alakazam to Darkrai because it was a “bad comparison” because Darkrai is slightly bulkier, slightly faster, and has an unreliable sleep move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 18:06:30 No.44059231 Report

Quoted By: >>44059378

>>44058276
Do you have the link to the first thread about it? I remember it exploding but didn't read it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 18:21:07 No.44059378 Report

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>>44059231
https://archive.nyafuu.org/vp/thread/43920017/#43920117

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 20:10:36 No.44060323 Report

Quoted By: >>44060642

>>44058733
Alakazam is hilarously frail.
Any physical offense whatsoever will put it down instantly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 20:14:33 No.44060365 Report

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>>44058276
wrong tier

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 20:43:02 No.44060603 Report

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>xatu

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 20:46:35 No.44060642 Report

Quoted By: >>44060685 >>44060686 >>44061200

>>44060323
Too bad pretty much nothing on Stall has good offenses.
Knock Off from Manibuzz isn’t a guaranteed OHKO on Alakazam.
0- Atk Mandibuzz Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Alakazam: 248-294 (98.8 - 117.1%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 20:51:04 No.44060685 Report

Quoted By: >>44060821

>>44060642
Why would be Mandibuzz running an Attack-lowering nature? Is there something I'm missing out or is this just very subtle baiting?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 20:51:08 No.44060686 Report

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>>44060642
>93.8%
Still high probabilty of death, friend.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 20:53:08 No.44060703 Report

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>>44058276
That was Alakazam-Mega in Natdex, you retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 20:57:21 No.44060750 Report

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>>44057928
And DracoVish, don't forget Draco.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 21:02:24 No.44060821 Report

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>>44060685
Idk but that’s what the person in the OP is likely using.
I even asked they were using Bold over Impish.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 21:21:59 No.44061040 Report

Quoted By: >>44061070

>>44057570
At this point OU is just trash. Hazards has been nerfed because of Boots, when it was there to keep switching in checks. Teleport got a buff to utilize further stall. Plus the king of OU land-T will be marching in next season pass. Yet smogon still doesn't see this as a problem if teams like this are at the top of OU Gen 8?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 21:24:30 No.44061070 Report

Quoted By: >>44061083

>>44061040
You had a point there with HDB and Teleport but then you had to ruin it with complaining over Landorus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 21:25:35 No.44061083 Report

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>>44061070
I'm not complaining about him though. Sorry if it sounded like I was, but wasn't just stating a fact that he's very good in every team comp.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 21:34:59 No.44061200 Report

Quoted By: >>44062814

>>44060642
0 Atk Mandibuzz Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Alakazam: 276-326 (109.9 - 129.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
It's a guaranteed OHKO if Mandibuzz has an attack-neutral nature.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 21:45:35 No.44061333 Report

Quoted By: >>44061445

>>44057570
Wait, this is it? This is really what awaits me at the top? You're shitting me.

I faced such a team with Rotom-Cut instead of Rotom-Heat. I went quite easily through it, just the hard core of Rotom-Cut and Quagsire was tough. I lost my Weavile too early but I beat that guy.

ELO: 1245. Team: Weavile, Bisharp, Zeraora, Gengar and some more shitmons I can't remember.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 21:55:11 No.44061445 Report

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>>44061333
Low-ladder shitters have a tendency to copy high-ladder teams without knowing how to use them.
Battling an amateur stallfag is different from battling a professional stallfag.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Jun 2020 00:18:01 No.44062814 Report

Quoted By: >>44063080

>>44061200
I know, but the team that’s in the OP uses Bold Manibuzz

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Jun 2020 00:52:49 No.44063080 Report

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>>44062814
Then that team needs a bit of tweaking.

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