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Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 12:51:41 No.44100576 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>44100593 >>44100604 >>44100605 >>44100612 >>44100614 >>44100731 >>44100916 >>44100960 >>44100977 >>44102879 >>44102921 >>44104713 >>44106508

>Has literal metal cannons
>Gigantamax form is a mobile fortress fucking covered in them
>Learns several steel type attacks
>STILL ISN'T A STEEL TYPE
>EVEN IT'S MEGA ISN'T STEEL
My salt is fucking eternal. Just fucking retcon Blastoise to Water/Steel already, or at the very least M-Blastoise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 12:55:09 No.44100593 Report

Quoted By: >>44100600 >>44100628 >>44101447

>>44100576
Gigantamax forms never change types.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 12:56:14 No.44100600 Report

Quoted By: >>44100633

>>44100593
Did you even read the fucking post?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 12:56:54 No.44100604 Report

Quoted By: >>44100628

>>44100576
Yeah man I don't think gyga/dyna changes types, not gonna work

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 12:56:56 No.44100605 Report

Quoted By: >>44100628

>>44100576
It's all keratin, breh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 12:57:32 No.44100612 Report

Quoted By: >>44100655 >>44100662 >>44100883 >>44100938 >>44101014 >>44101125 >>44101131 >>44101574 >>44102388

>>44100576
Here’s a fixed starters list from gens 1-5, any starter that isn’t on here is fine as is.
>Charizard - Fire/Dragon
>Blastoise - Water/Steel
>Typhlosion - Fire/Rock
>Feraligatr - Water/Rock
>Sceptile - Grass/Dark
>Serperior - Grass/Dragon
>Emboar - Fire/Dark
>Samurott - Water/Fighting

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 12:57:43 No.44100614 Report

Quoted By: >>44100628

>>44100576
Salt for what? Do you desire that it became a weak shit as empoleon? Come on anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 12:59:35 No.44100628 Report

Quoted By: >>44100646 >>44102349

>>44100593
>>44100604
Point out where I said that the g max form specifically should be water/steel. I am saying OG Blastoise or it's mega should be water/steel.
>>44100605
Bull shit.
>>44100614
Empoleon is ass due to bad stats and a crappy movepool. Blastoise has Shell Smash to enable sweeping and a big dick mega. Water/Steel would be much better for it than pure Water by a mile.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 13:00:09 No.44100633 Report

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>>44100600
Cool your jets, OP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 13:02:49 No.44100646 Report

Quoted By: >>44100651 >>44101442

>>44100628
>Empoleon is ass due to bad stats and a crappy movepool. Blastoise has Shell Smash to enable sweeping and a big dick mega. Water/Steel would be much better for it than pure Water by a mile
Empoleon is unironically a better Pokemon that Blastoise. I don't even mean design wise (which, yea, it does have a better design), but also statwise and competitively.

Also, Mega Blastoise isn't a thing anymore, so you need to just let that go.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 13:03:32 No.44100651 Report

Quoted By: >>44100685

>>44100646
>but also statwise and competitively.
Not since Blastoise got Shell Smash and Flip Turn my dude.
>Also, Mega Blastoise isn't a thing anymore, so you need to just let that go.
If you think megas won't be back some day you're delusional.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 13:03:51 No.44100655 Report

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>>44100612
>Sceptile - Grass/Dark
Even though it's mega typing was grass/dragon.
>Emboar - Fire/Dark
Fire/ground makes more sense given that it's a giant pig.
>>Typhlosion - Fire/Rock
If we're going off of volcano themed, fire/ground makes more sense.
>Feraligatr - Water/Rock
For what reason?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 13:04:10 No.44100662 Report

Quoted By: >>44100670 >>44100706 >>44102615

>>44100612
Objectively retarded.
Blastoise who doesn't use steel in his attacks at all he just has steel on him
>Deserves Steel
Sammurot who use steel as his main weapon in combat
>Remove Steel
Typlosion and Ferqligator have literally nothing to do with rocks.
Secptile and Emboar aren't evil.
Charizard doesn't have a raw magic element, nor does serperior.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 13:05:11 No.44100670 Report

Quoted By: >>44100692

>>44100662
>Blastoise who doesn't use steel in his attacks at all he just has steel on him
He learns fucking iron defense and flash cannon by level up retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 13:07:04 No.44100685 Report

Quoted By: >>44100696 >>44100707

>>44100651
>Not since Blastoise got Shell Smash and Flip Turn my dude.
>Blastoise used shell smash
>Blastoise used flip turn and returned to his trainer, losing his stat boosts

Lol okay.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 13:07:51 No.44100692 Report

Quoted By: >>44100713 >>44100882

>>44100670
>What is lore

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 13:08:03 No.44100696 Report

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>>44100685
I think you may be genuinely retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 13:09:36 No.44100706 Report

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>>44100662
>Sammurot who use steel as his main weapon in combat
since when are seashells made of steel dude?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 13:09:48 No.44100707 Report

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>>44100685
I bet you think swords dance Scizor shouldn't use u-turn either, huh?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 13:11:14 No.44100713 Report

Quoted By: >>44100718 >>44100726 >>44100862

>>44100692
Name one fucking lore explanation for Lucario being a steel type then

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 13:12:13 No.44100718 Report

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>>44100713
It has nerves of steel in order to stay focused and use auras in even the toughest of situations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 13:13:59 No.44100726 Report

Quoted By: >>44100733

>>44100713
Litteral steel spikes that could be used to stab someone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 13:14:21 No.44100731 Report

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>>44100576
Yeah I’m honestly mad Blastiose wasn’t retconned in gen 2. It has way more metal that something like Lucario or celesteela

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 13:14:47 No.44100733 Report

Quoted By: >>44100761 >>44100866

>>44100718
>Nerves of steel
That's a figure of speech you stupid faggot.
>>44100726
And Blastoise has literal fucking metal cannons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 13:17:53 No.44100761 Report

Quoted By: >>44100765

>>44100733
You don't stab someone with a cannon, you know those cannons shoot water right.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 13:19:33 No.44100765 Report

Quoted By: >>44100792

>>44100761
What's stopping M-Blastoise from pistol whipping a bitch with his arm cannons? Checkmate fagaroni.
>You know those cannons shoot water right
It learns Flash Cannon naturally so they shoot more than water.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 13:24:20 No.44100792 Report

Quoted By: >>44100817 >>44100824 >>44100961

>>44100765
Delphox is fire type because she does pyromancy she can also use the want to cast shadow ball, should she be ghost type?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 13:28:59 No.44100817 Report

Quoted By: >>44100850

>>44100792
Delphox doesn't learn shadow ball by level up and doesn't have anything about it's design that suggests ghost typing. Plus it's already dual typed. Good lord you are autistic.
>She
Fuck off pokefucker.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 13:30:09 No.44100824 Report

Quoted By: >>44100859

>>44100792
>She
Fuck off pokefucker

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 13:33:55 No.44100850 Report

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>>44100817
Why are minorities always dumb.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 13:35:41 No.44100859 Report

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>>44100824
You are in the minority of /vp/ so if anyone should leave it's you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 13:35:52 No.44100862 Report

Quoted By: >>44100864

>>44100713
orichalcum

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 13:36:23 No.44100864 Report

Quoted By: >>44100889 >>44101563

>>44100862
What does that have to do with Lucario AT ALL?

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Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 13:36:43 No.44100866 Report

Quoted By: >>44100898

>>44100733
>That's a figure of speech you stupid faggot.
Well...

That was mean for no reason...

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 13:39:29 No.44100880 Report

Quoted By: >>44100895

Charizard - Fire/Dragon
Blastoise - Water/Steel
Meganium - Grass/Fairy
Typhlosion - Fire/Ground
Feraligatr - Water/Dragon
Sceptile - Grass/Dragon
Serperior Grass/Dragon (maybe)
Samurott - Water/Fighting
Rillaboom - Grass/Normal (sound moves)
Intellion - Water/Ghost

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 13:40:32 No.44100882 Report

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>>44100692
>baby don't dex me don't dex me, no more

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 13:40:45 No.44100883 Report

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>>44100612
nonono

>Charizard- Fine as is but I could see it being Fire/Dragon
>Blastoise- Water/Steel
>Meganium- Fine as is but could be Grass/Fairy (weak reasoning)
>Typhlosion- Fire/Ground
>Feraligatr- Fine as is but could be Water/Dark considering gators are vicious and shit
>Sceptile- Grass/Dragon
>Serperior- Fine as is but could be Grass/Dragon
>Emboar- Fire/Dark because Tepig literally has a Asian thief bandana ears or Fire/Ground because its a boar
>Samurott- Water/Fighting

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 13:42:26 No.44100889 Report

Quoted By: >>44100898 >>44100907

>>44100864
his name is based on that mythical metal and something something egyptian gods, i forgot
its still more of a Fighting/Psychic pokemon imo

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 13:44:02 No.44100895 Report

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>>44100880
>If it is reptile make it dragon lol.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 13:44:41 No.44100898 Report

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>>44100889
>his name is based on that mythical metal and something something egyptian gods, i forgot
Cite an official source on this or fuck off dude, that's just headcanon theory shit.
>>44100866
Well don't spout dumb bull shit if you don't want to get called dumb senpai.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 13:46:52 No.44100907 Report

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>>44100889
Ah, yes Lucario famous for being a wizard/telecentic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 13:49:25 No.44100916 Report

Quoted By: >>44100924

>>44100576
You're retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 13:50:31 No.44100924 Report

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>>44100916
Great argument, you sure showed me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 13:52:04 No.44100938 Report

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>>44100612
>Fire/Rock
For what reason
>Water/Rock
Actually retarded
>Grass/Dark
In what way does this make sense or benefit sceptile
>Fire/Dark
Barely justifiable because of Incineroar but also doesn't make any fucking sense

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 13:53:13 No.44100947 Report

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I agree. Monotyped final starter evos are stupid. Venusaur and Charizard both get dual STABs, Blastoise deserves one too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 13:55:05 No.44100960 Report

Quoted By: >>44100973

>>44100576
How does Blastoise even aim that thing? Does he just spray all over the place and destroy it all?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 13:55:07 No.44100961 Report

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>>44100792
She's already got psychic types and psychic types commonly use shadow ball

Different anon btw

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 13:56:35 No.44100973 Report

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>>44100960
Based on its animations, the cannons are attached to sphere-looking things that rotate to aim.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 13:58:05 No.44100977 Report

Quoted By: >>44100988

>>44100576
the cannons are made out of bones.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 13:59:46 No.44100985 Report

Quoted By: >>44100989 >>44101020

I think some of them need to be retconned but some others are fine being monotype.

>Charizard
Just get over it. It’s Fire/Flying cause apparently the elemental powers of air and wind are more predominant that the Dragon energy, besides looking like a dragon. They made us happy with a Fire/Dragon Mega Evolution, so stop it already.

>Blastoise
Definitely needs to be retconned as Water/Steel. Or at least its Mega.

>Feraligatr
Water/Steel would be nice since its Dex entries are quite violent. But it’s ok also mono Water.

>Emboar
Unfortunately they made this one look like a sumo wrestler/muscle man from circus, so Fighting fits too well. But if they’d get rid of some features it could easily be Fire/Ground or mono Fire.

>Samurott
It fights with fucking swords. It has fucking “samurai” in its name, I don’t really know what this shouldn’t be Water/Fighting already.

>Rillaboom
Grass/Normal sounds great, as it’s a Pokémon that uses Sound attacks, and Sound is always represented by Normal type. Also, the majority of mammals in Pokémon are Normal type.

>Cinderace
It’s a fucking Fire/Fighting. I’m sure they didn’t do it in order not to trigger us. (Or because they’re retarded and cannot understand their own creations).

>Inteleon
It’s based and a detective and on a chameleon. It’s Giga is also a fucking hidden shooter. It’s a clear Water/Ghost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 14:00:33 No.44100988 Report

Quoted By: >>44101002 >>44101566

>>44100977
Source or fuck off

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 14:01:05 No.44100989 Report

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>>44100985
>Feraligatr
I meant Water/DARK

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 14:02:37 No.44101002 Report

Quoted By: >>44101035 >>44101539

>>44100988
Source for canons are steel or fuck off.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 14:03:41 No.44101014 Report

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>>44100612
>Typhlosion
No, if it should be given dual typing, it’s Fire/Ground and have its HA be Drought.
>Feraligatr
Water/Dark
>Sceptile
Grass, just grass, nothing else.
>Emboar
Eh, no, should stay Fire/Fighting if it has to keep its horrible design. Fire/Steel if it can be reworked to resemble pic-related.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 14:04:48 No.44101020 Report

Quoted By: >>44101047 >>44101063

>>44100985
Ah hes cinderace famous for being a martial artist, or particularly strong for a pokemon. No wait you made that up?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 14:07:20 No.44101035 Report

Quoted By: >>44101157

>>44101002
They are fucking cannons in visibly metallic/steel colouring differing from his shell color. We have NOTHING suggesting they aren't metal, it even learns fucking steel type attacks BY ITSELF.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 14:09:48 No.44101047 Report

Quoted By: >>44101063 >>44101091 >>44101157

>>44101020
>Conkeldurr line, Fighting types themed around construction
>Passimian, Fighting type themed around rugby/gridiron football
>Heracross, Fighting type that's just a regular ass beetle
>Pirouette Meloetta, Fighting type that has nothing to do with fighting at all

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 14:11:53 No.44101063 Report

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>>44101020
This >>44101047
Sport themed Pokémon have always been Fighting type. Retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 14:14:28 No.44101091 Report

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>>44101047
heracross is a hercules beetle, those pin and throw opponents, akin to a human way of fighting, plus hercules beetles are considered "good" and fighting is sometimes used as a "justice" type

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Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 14:18:32 No.44101125 Report

Quoted By: >>44101142

>>44100612

>Typhlosion - Fire/Rock

As much as I love Typhlosion, the Gen 2 starters were meant to be pure type since the theme of Gen 2 is Tradition. If you absolutely had to give him second type it would make sense to be ground since it goes with the volcano theme

Best way to fix Typh in my opinion is to give him ground moves like earth power and earthquake as well as an electric move or 2 like thunderbolt or thuder punch

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 14:19:15 No.44101131 Report

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>>44100612
>Fire/Dragon
Whatever, sure.
>Water/Steel
Good change.
>Fire/Rock and Water/Rock
No, Fire/Ground and Water/Dark, Dragon or Ice
>Grass/Dark
Nah, Grass Dragon like the Mega used to be
>Grass/Dragon
Maybe, could also go for psychic so it matches the other re-typed Unova starters
>Fire/Dark
Yeah, or Fire/Rock, just not another Fire/Fighting
>Water/Fighting
It should have been Water/Fighting from the begining.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 14:20:25 No.44101142 Report

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>>44101125
>the theme of Gen 2 is Tradition
What does that have to do with them being mono-type? Tradition would mean 2 of them have dual types like Venusaur and Charizard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 14:21:34 No.44101157 Report

Quoted By: >>44101181

>>44101035
Blastoise isn't steel type it is obvious GF is saying it doesn't have steel on it. Multiple pokemon learn moves that aren't their type by level.
>>44101047
Football requires a higher strength than soccer.
Pokemon is based of beetle *wrestling*
Conkeldurr is because construction works are though of as especially strong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 14:24:02 No.44101176 Report

Quoted By: >>44101227

Blastoise should be Water-Steel.
Meganium should be Grass-Fairy.
Feraligatr should be Water-Dark.
Emboar should be Fire-Ground.
Samurott should be Water-Fighting.
Serperior should be Grass-Dragon.
Rillaboom should be Grass-Normal.
Inteleon should be Water-Ghost.

Every other starter is fine.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 14:24:33 No.44101181 Report

Quoted By: >>44101215

>>44101157
>Football requires a higher strength than soccer.
I'm pretty sure most contact sports require higher than average strength.
You've also yet to acknowledge the Fighting type ballerina in the room

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 14:29:59 No.44101215 Report

Quoted By: >>44101241

>>44101181
>Oh no one pokemon doesn't fit it's type theming, this is an excuse to throw what ever we want on whatever we want.
Imagine a football player you are probably picturing a triangle of muscle, on the other hand soccer players are very lean.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 14:31:28 No.44101227 Report

Quoted By: >>44101290

>>44101176
Give your reasoning instead of just saying it so it is easier to form a conversation, stop making positive claims without evidence.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 14:34:08 No.44101241 Report

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>>44101215
No, I'm imagining very muscular legs trained for kicking. Which, surprise surprise, Cinderace has too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 14:42:25 No.44101290 Report

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>>44101227
>Blastoise
Literally big Squirtle with metal cannons, even more/bigger cannons in its alternative forms.

>Meganium
Just to make it less bland and fits with the happy flower theme, I don't really care about it, it could be pure Grass too, I just think it would be a good way to make it stand out among other starters (specially when the other starter with a flower is Grass-POISON)

>Feraligatr
Pretty much what I said about Meganium, I don't care that much but I think it fits with the themes of the mon and helps making it stand out

>Emboar
Pig-like mons usually are Ground type and saves us from the Fire-Fighting curse. It's also a good change because Samurott...

>Samurott
Literal samurai, should be an honorable Water-Fighting pokemon.

>Serperior
Not only because it's a reptile but also because it's a pokemon that represents French royalty, I think it makes sense for this specific starter to be the only Dragon type starter (alt forms aside of course)

>Rillaboom
It's a literal gorilla with grass hair, also it's a musical pokemon and sound moves are usually tied to Normal type

>Inteleon
It's a crybaby chameleon that hides itself by turning invisible and its alt form turns it into a sniper, someone who deals massive damage to its enemies while hiding itself like if it wasn't there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 15:07:59 No.44101442 Report

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>>44100646
This, really the main issue with Empoleon is that its Hidden ability Defiant (while the ability itself is good) kinda sucks ass on it due to Empoleon’s stats leaning more to its special attack. All Empoleon really needs is to either give it a wider special movepool and a better Hidden ability ( idk something like swift swim could work but any suggestions is welcomed) OR switch its attack and special attack if they want to keep Defiant and not add anything to its moveset.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 15:09:33 No.44101447 Report

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>>44100593
>?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 15:23:50 No.44101539 Report

Quoted By: >>44102926

>>44101002
Eyes. Having functional eyes is the source. You belligerent retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 15:27:07 No.44101563 Report

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>>44100864
The name. Lucario is basically orichalcum backwards in Japanese. That’s the real reason Luke has aura and psy abilities and a seemingly asspulled Steel typing

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 15:27:23 No.44101566 Report

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>>44100988
well i tried, keep your autistic rage pointed at literally nothing then

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 15:28:16 No.44101574 Report

Quoted By: >>44101587

>>44100612
you absolute retard, changing starters type break up the starter type trio concept.
if charizard was part dragon then blastoise won't be stronger than him
and if blastoise was part steel then venusaur won't be stronger than him

Good lords you type fags are retarded and I'm glad you don't work on game developments

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 15:29:31 No.44101587 Report

Quoted By: >>44101600 >>44101623

>>44101574
Torterra had type advantages over both Infernape and Empoleon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 15:31:24 No.44101600 Report

Quoted By: >>44101611 >>44101660

>>44101587
Torterra is still isn't OP.
it's the slowest starter with a 4x weak to Ice
Empoleon can destroy Torterra

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 15:32:13 No.44101606 Report

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Venusaur — Grass/Poison
Charizard — Fire/Dragon (Levitate)
Blastoise — Water/Steel
Meganium — Grass/Fairy
Typhlosion — Fire/Ground
Feraligatr — Water/Dark
Sceptile — Grass/Dragon
Blaziken — Fire/Fighting
Swampert — Water/Ground
Torterra — Grass/Ground
Infernape — Fire/Fighting
Empoleon — Water/Steel
Serperior — Grass/Dragon
Emboar — Fire/Dark
Samurott — Water/Fighting
Chesnaught — Grass/Fighting
Delphox — Fire/Psychic
Greninja — Water/Dark
Decidueye — Grass/Flying
Incineroar — Fire/Dark
Primarina — Water/Fairy
Rillaboom — Grass/Ground
Cinderace — Fire/Electric
Inteleon — Water/Ice

All megas retain those types. This list is 100% verifiably perfect. Fight me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 15:32:36 No.44101611 Report

Quoted By: >>44101625

>>44101600
If we're taking movesets into account then every Water starter wrecks every Grass starter with Ice moves

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 15:33:57 No.44101623 Report

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>>44101587
chad turtle

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 15:34:09 No.44101625 Report

Quoted By: >>44101644

>>44101611
Most water starters are slower than the grass starters and none have STAB Ice bonus so?

Heck, by your logic, Grass starters can beat fire starters with rock/ground moves and fire starters can beat water starters with solar beam

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 15:37:09 No.44101644 Report

Quoted By: >>44101680

>>44101625
>Heck, by your logic
Nigger, that's your logic. You're the one who brought movesets into this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 15:39:11 No.44101660 Report

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>>44101600
Infernape is faster than Empoleon, and has a type advantage. Stop talking about "muh type trios"

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 15:42:22 No.44101680 Report

Quoted By: >>44101696

>>44101644
having moves isn't equal to have broken type concept.
Non-stab moves never mattered in starter triangle

fire starters were designed to be weak to water starters
water starters were designed to be weak to grass starters
grass starters were designed to be weak to fire starters

Yep, Gen4 was retarded to ruin this but at least the later generation didn't fall into the same mistake

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 15:45:20 No.44101696 Report

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>>44101680
>Non-stab moves never mattered in starter triangle
Says the guy who tried to claim Ice moves were the reason Empoleon had an advantage over Torterra

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 17:31:08 No.44102349 Report

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>>44100628
Yeah, but g max doesn't change types. Also, water types are used mainly against rock, ground and fire, earthquake destroys steel types in meta, it would be screwed by sun teams due to neutral fire resistant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 17:37:56 No.44102384 Report

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>>44100859
Not him
And not everyone on here is a pokephile blight on society

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 17:39:02 No.44102388 Report

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>>44100612
Feraligatr with Water/Dark typing makes the most sense, especially in a gen that created dark types

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 18:08:45 No.44102615 Report

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>>44100662
>Emboar aren't evil.
Lets ask Hilda shall we?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 18:29:17 No.44102773 Report

Quoted By: >>44102901

>Meganium Grass/Fairy
>Feraligatr Water/Dark
>Typhlosion Fire/Poison
think about it

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Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 18:42:33 No.44102879 Report

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>>44100576
If you want a steel water bring empoleon faggot

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Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 18:44:59 No.44102901 Report

Quoted By: >>44102906 >>44103569

>>44102773
I can understand the first two but why Poison for Typhlosion?

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Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 18:45:47 No.44102906 Report

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>>44102901

Smelly, rancid farts

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Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 18:46:55 No.44102921 Report

Quoted By: >>44102926 >>44103328 >>44104259

>>44100576
proof they are made of metal and not bones?

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Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 18:47:29 No.44102926 Report

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>>44102921
>>44101539

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Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 19:35:12 No.44103328 Report

Quoted By: >>44104259

>>44102921
They will always say “just look at it, can’t you tell?” but there really is none. The cannons are the same color as the shell ridge anyway, I’m pretty sure they’re supposed to be bone structures in the same way a turtle’s shell armor is. And being able to use flash cannon doesn’t mean that the cannons themselves are made of metal.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 20:02:09 No.44103569 Report

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>>44102901
its spiky :D

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Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 21:27:52 No.44104259 Report

Quoted By: >>44104621

>>44103328
>>44102921
Are you blind? The surface of the cannons SHINE, they are obviously metalic. And only the Gigantamax form has the same color for the cannons and the shell ridge, normal and Mega forms have different colors

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Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 22:11:41 No.44104621 Report

Quoted By: >>44104731

>>44104259
Blastoise's main official art and box art appearance have them looking non-metallic and close in color to the edges of its shell. Other sources like the anime make them look metallic at times, but it seems to me that the intention was for them to be organic.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 22:21:36 No.44104713 Report

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>>44100576
They'd sooner retcon OG Charizard into a dragon type before they even consider this lmao

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Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 22:23:10 No.44104731 Report

Quoted By: >>44104786

>>44104621
Just because they aren't shining all the time doesn't mean they aren't metallic, you can't just discard every single time they show their glow because you want to pretend he has bone cannons

>close in color to the edges of its shell
>close
Still different.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 22:29:47 No.44104786 Report

Quoted By: >>44105261

>>44104731
>>close
Yeah, I can tell it isn't a perfect match, but those cannons sure as hell aren't metal-looking gray in Blastoise's official art.
>you can't just discard every single time they show their glow because you want to pretend he has bone cannons
Come on man, the anime is no bible for how pokemon are exactly supposed to look. Look at Incineroar here, which is supposed to have its lower jaw be red, not black. Or see any of those ridiculous looking images of Drednaw in the anime. They play with proportions and details all the time.
And how about the best evidence that the cannons aren't metal? It wasn't made a steel type in gen 2. Even when it received a mega in gen 6, it still stayed pure water. This should be the most persuasive evidence of all.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 23:17:03 No.44105261 Report

Quoted By: >>44105378

>>44104786
Are you unironically blind? I'm not talking about the anime here, but more media in general, and the pic I posted (which is official art for the games) clearly has a metalic shading

>GF thinks the metal cannons aren't enough reason to make it steel type so they aren't made of metal!
I guess Gundurr's girder isn't made of metal, then

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Anonymous Thu 02 Jul 2020 23:29:16 No.44105378 Report

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>>44105261
Dude light is reflecting off of everything in that official art you posted. Are you sure you know what metal looks like? And I was referring to that earlier anime frame you posted.
>I guess Gundurr's girder isn't made of metal, then
Are you kidding, Gurdurr's accessory isn't part of its body.
I don't know how you can look at mega blastoise, which amped the cannons up to 11, see that it didn't gain the steel type, even when gf has been fine with repeating starter types before, and think that they've definitely got to be metal. They're organic cannons.

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Anonymous Fri 03 Jul 2020 01:35:11 No.44106508 Report

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>>44100576
it learns flash cannon when it evolves too.

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