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Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 15:28:21 No.44120742 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>44120767 >>44120788 >>44120804 >>44120806 >>44120882 >>44120910 >>44121092 >>44121238 >>44121932 >>44122153 >>44122213 >>44123335 >>44125125

>spritefags will defend this while complaining about 3d models for being "reused"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 15:30:45 No.44120767 Report

Quoted By: >>44123378

>>44120742
Why fix what isn't broken?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 15:30:57 No.44120769 Report

Quoted By: >>44121331

There's already a thread about shitflinging, anon.
>>44116002

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Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 15:31:52 No.44120779 Report

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>pokemon has been reusing itself for over 2 decades

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 15:32:39 No.44120788 Report

Quoted By: >>44125358

>>44120742
It isn't close to being the same thing. They had to animate it from scratch and add new backsprite its own animations. With Swsh its just new textures and a couple animations for dynamax and camp.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 15:34:47 No.44120800 Report

Quoted By: >>44120913 >>44120921 >>44125000 >>44126787

OH NO NO NO NO

LOOK AT THIS DOOD

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 15:35:18 No.44120804 Report

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>>44120742
>spritefags
Nah, just rabid unovabortions defending their nu-Pokemon cancer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 15:35:46 No.44120806 Report

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>>44120742
>complaining about 3d models for being "reused"
How about you stop reading clickbait shill sites?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 15:45:07 No.44120867 Report

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spritebros......

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 15:46:08 No.44120876 Report

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spritebros....

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 15:46:42 No.44120882 Report

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>>44120742
It’s not about them being reused. It’s about GameFreak saying something about making new models from scratch which is obviously not true. People would be okay with the models being reused since they were “futureproofed”.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 15:48:32 No.44120894 Report

Quoted By: >>44120913 >>44120921 >>44121060 >>44122092 >>44125000 >>44126787

How did they get away with it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 15:50:28 No.44120910 Report

Quoted By: >>44120928

>>44120742
Most Pokemon from the sprite era have gotten multiple new sprites. Models have been and will be the same forever. Cherry picked examples cannot refute this. This will never be something you can "turn around".

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 15:50:58 No.44120913 Report

Quoted By: >>44121034

>>44120800
>>44120876
>>44120894
>>44120824

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 15:52:00 No.44120921 Report

Quoted By: >>44120942 >>44126819

>>44120800
>>44120876
>>44120894
each of these sprites are new though they're just clearly based on the previous

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 15:52:13 No.44120923 Report

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If the animations were good I wouldn't give a shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 15:52:48 No.44120928 Report

Quoted By: >>44121169

>>44120910
It's understandable they don't make new models each game, it would be stupid and pointless and too complicated.

Them making decisions based on a scenario that's not real is what should be criticized.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 15:54:24 No.44120942 Report

Quoted By: >>44121053 >>44125706

>>44120921
Just like the Sword and Shield models.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 15:56:00 No.44120953 Report

Quoted By: >>44121034 >>44125000 >>44126787

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 15:57:42 No.44120967 Report

Quoted By: >>44121034 >>44125000 >>44126787

>I always had standards btw

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 16:02:23 No.44121008 Report

Quoted By: >>44121037 >>44121073

This is a bad take.
People complain about the reuse of 3D models not because they’re expecting new models, but because people are expecting the time that would’ve gone into making new models into improving battle animations or other aspects of the game. Especially when GF said they had to remake the models from scratch, which they didn’t.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 16:04:45 No.44121027 Report

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>sprites were just as bad for reuse! jj-ust look at these random backsprites as proof!
It's cute that you think you're making a good point

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 16:05:10 No.44121034 Report

Quoted By: >>44121314

>>44120953
>>44120967
>>44120913

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Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 16:05:42 No.44121037 Report

Quoted By: >>44121068 >>44121182 >>44121206 >>44122741 >>44125706 >>44126905

>>44121008
>expecting the time that would’ve gone into making new models into improving battle animations or other aspects of the game
That's what they did though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 16:07:37 No.44121053 Report

Quoted By: >>44121060

>>44120942
the models aren't new but the textures are, know the difference friend

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 16:08:58 No.44121060 Report

Quoted By: >>44121074 >>44122595

>>44121053
Textures are a part of models.

By this logic >>44120894 is also the same sprite because only the palette was changed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 16:10:11 No.44121068 Report

Quoted By: >>44121076

>>44121037
>ONE (1) new animation
wao... epic...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 16:11:20 No.44121073 Report

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>>44121008
> but because people are expecting the time that would’ve gone into making new models into improving battle animations or other aspects of the game.
Not really, while that is a valid point and some people brought it up its mainly because they justified the cull with their supposed inability to reuse models. That's what brought the model discussion to the table.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 16:11:22 No.44121074 Report

Quoted By: >>44121084

>>44121060
Yes, but they aren't the model itself. You can make a brand new texture for a model without changing the model itself

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 16:11:47 No.44121076 Report

Quoted By: >>44121086 >>44121123 >>44121182 >>44121206 >>44125706

>>44121068
>>ONE (1)
Nope.

A dataminer should go in and compare all the Swoosh animations to the 3DS animations. Maybe it'll shut up the "b-b-but they didn't make any new animations!!!" retards.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 16:12:49 No.44121084 Report

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>>44121074
>Yes, but they aren't the model itself.
Textures are a part of the model itself. You're confusing models and meshes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 16:13:08 No.44121086 Report

Quoted By: >>44121088

>>44121076
>Other people should make my point for me.

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Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 16:14:02 No.44121088 Report

Quoted By: >>44121101

>>44121086
>N-NO DON'T DATAMINE THE GAME IT'LL REVEAL HOW DISINGENUOUS I'M BEING

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 16:14:13 No.44121092 Report

Quoted By: >>44121112

>>44120742
Wow, it's almost like Gen V is actually the start of Pokemon's downfall despite what screeching Unovabortions have been trying to make you believe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 16:15:44 No.44121101 Report

Quoted By: >>44121108

>>44121088
If it were that way then do so, but do so yourself instead of having other people prove your point.
Datamining has consistently favored the dexer side though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 16:16:44 No.44121108 Report

Quoted By: >>44121176

>>44121101
>but do so yourself instead of having other people prove your point.
I already proved my point though. You sure seem to be seething pretty hard.

>Datamining has consistently favored the dexer side though.
And yet no one has datamined the animations. Convenient, huh? I wonder if there's a narrative trying to be pushed here.....

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 16:17:46 No.44121112 Report

Quoted By: >>44123819

>>44121092
>Gen V
you mean gen 3

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 16:18:18 No.44121123 Report

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>>44121076
You know, these are the only two new animations I ever see posted in these threads. Really makes you think.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 16:26:13 No.44121169 Report

Quoted By: >>44121206

>>44120928
>please understand, making new sprites is too hard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 16:26:39 No.44121176 Report

Quoted By: >>44121182

>>44121108
>I already proved my point though.
Where?

>And yet no one has datamined the animations. Convenient, huh? I wonder if there's a narrative trying to be pushed here.....
None of the actual miners is on the bbnd side and matt outright attacked bbnd at times. But if you think evidence is on your side rip it or link me to someone who did.....which, by your own account, doesn't exist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 16:27:53 No.44121182 Report

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>>44121176
>Where?
>>44121037
>>44121076

>None of the actual miners is on the bbnd side
Yeah, that must be why there's a whole bunch of mesh comparisons showing the similarities but not a single one showing the differences of the animations.....hm........

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 16:31:36 No.44121206 Report

Quoted By: >>44121234

>>44121169
I never said that.

>>44121037 you weren't replying to me but point taken, I also replied to the same post.
>>44121076 Is just you asking someone else to post evidence for you.

>Yeah, that must be why there's a whole bunch of mesh comparisons showing the similarities but not a single one showing the differences of the animations.....hm........
Those aren't made by the miners.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 16:32:58 No.44121218 Report

Quoted By: >>44121234

Game Freak reused animations more than they made new ones in swsh, this isn't an opinion, it's a fact. Ever since XY they've been reusing models and animations for any future games, because that was the point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 16:34:29 No.44121234 Report

Quoted By: >>44121262 >>44121432

>>44121206
>Those aren't made by the miners.
Yes they were.

>>44121218
>Game Freak reused animations more than they made new ones in swsh
They never promised there would be more new ones than reused ones.

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Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 16:35:00 No.44121238 Report

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>>44120742
>2006
>2007
2008
2009

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Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 16:35:54 No.44121242 Report

Quoted By: >>44121314 >>44121407 >>44121737 >>44122142

OH NO NO NO NO NO

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 16:39:03 No.44121262 Report

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>>44121234
>They never promised there would be more new ones than reused ones.
I didn't say they did.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 16:44:54 No.44121314 Report

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>>44121242
>>44121034

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 16:47:41 No.44121331 Report

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>>44120769
Of course, I forgot criticising BW counts as shitflinging/genwar

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 16:59:26 No.44121407 Report

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>>44121242
>Charizard
>will NEVER EVER be a dragon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 17:02:45 No.44121432 Report

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>>44121234
>Yes they were.
post link

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 17:39:23 No.44121737 Report

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>>44121242
lel

this is a joke right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 18:05:58 No.44121932 Report

Quoted By: >>44122098

>>44120742
The problem isn't that game freak reused their models, though that was a little disappointing

The real problem is that game freak removed several pokemon from SS for no reason. If they already had the models, why didn't they port them over to their new game? Well Game Freak lied and claimed that they made all new high quality models to explain why the old pokemon were missing even though that clearly wasn't the case.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 18:29:48 No.44122092 Report

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>>44120894
that nidoran has a nice ass

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 18:30:29 No.44122098 Report

Quoted By: >>44122654

>>44121932
>why didn't they port them over to their new game?
because they would look like complete shit if they did that.

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Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 18:36:38 No.44122142 Report

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>>44121242
Charizard fucking wished my dude, never gon be a dragon.

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Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 18:38:02 No.44122153 Report

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>>44120742
No idea why they re-did all the Gen 3 Sprites in BW

Everyone thought we would get a remake that Gen

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Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 18:43:13 No.44122213 Report

Quoted By: >>44122260

>>44120742
You forgot they are animated, right?

Even if some of them have the same base sprite, they got animations. Also they got new back sprites for obvious reasons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 18:46:17 No.44122236 Report

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People thought the models would be new because Gamefreak lied. That's all there is to it. If Gamefreak hadn't lied, nobody would have cared.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 18:48:28 No.44122260 Report

Quoted By: >>44122634

>>44122213
>You forgot they are animated, right?
Extremely poorly animated?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 19:24:23 No.44122595 Report

Quoted By: >>44123308

>>44121060
Jesus. Fucking. Christ. How have you not gotten cancer or covid19 yet and died?
You are the hands down worst person on this board. And I'm including the pedos jerking it to 12yrold girls.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 19:28:57 No.44122634 Report

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>>44122260
At least they tried. They didn't even tried the last 2 gens

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 19:33:14 No.44122654 Report

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>>44122098
Then why did they do that for some mons anyways?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 19:43:49 No.44122741 Report

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>>44121037
>Generic DBZ ki charging roar
Yawn

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 19:46:50 No.44122776 Report

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>44121037
>44121076
I like how this faggot always posts those two gifs and ONLY those two gifs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 19:49:39 No.44122799 Report

Quoted By: >>44123278

The truth is that Gamefreak has been lazy for ages.
It only became obvious when they made the switch to 3D.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 20:42:51 No.44123236 Report

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>no anorith

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Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 20:47:38 No.44123278 Report

Quoted By: >>44126787

>>44122799
>it only became obvious when I grew up*

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 20:51:44 No.44123308 Report

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>>44122595
Cope Unovabort.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 20:54:46 No.44123335 Report

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>>44120742
Don't care, I'm still buying it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 20:59:15 No.44123378 Report

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>>44120767
fpbp

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 21:55:49 No.44123819 Report

Quoted By: >>44123934

>>44121112
Nah it was gen 1

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 22:07:00 No.44123934 Report

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>>44123819
dam u right

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jul 2020 23:49:55 No.44125000 Report

Quoted By: >>44125693 >>44126830

>>44120953
>>44120800
>>44120876
>>44120894
>>44120953
>>44120967
>It's on the same position so is the same sprait!!1!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jul 2020 00:03:54 No.44125125 Report

Quoted By: >>44125706

>>44120742
>Delete the majority of Pokémon on the pretense of "improving graphics and animations"
>"WOOOOOOOOOOOOOW WHY DO YOU GUYS CARE THAT THE GRAPHICS AND ANIMATIONS HAVEN'T BEEN IMPROVED"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jul 2020 00:33:26 No.44125358 Report

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>>44120788
>animations
Sprite scaling isn’t animation you stupid fucking faggot. Learn the difference.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jul 2020 01:15:34 No.44125693 Report

Quoted By: >>44125827

>>44125000
>It's the same mesh so is the same mohdhel!!1!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jul 2020 01:16:49 No.44125706 Report

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>>44125125
>>"WOOOOOOOOOOOOOW WHY DO YOU GUYS CARE THAT THE GRAPHICS AND ANIMATIONS HAVEN'T BEEN IMPROVED"
But they have.
>>44120942
>>44121037
>>44121076

Next you'll move goalposts and start saying
>N-NO BUT THEY DIDN'T IMPROVE ENOUGH TO MY PERSONAL LIKING

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jul 2020 01:31:24 No.44125827 Report

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>>44125693
Yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jul 2020 03:31:59 No.44126787 Report

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>>44120953
>>44120800
>>44120876
>>44120894
>>44120953
>>44120967
>>44123278
soul vs soulless

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jul 2020 03:35:41 No.44126819 Report

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>>44120921
Nah it's clearly obvious what they are identical just with different coloration and shading.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jul 2020 03:36:57 No.44126830 Report

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>>44125000
Yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jul 2020 03:45:08 No.44126905 Report

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>>44121037
Also this. They actually added animation of "battle cry" for all mons what is in the game. This animations shows up when pokemon go dynamax or just in battles with wild pokemon/when you win gym battles/league etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jul 2020 03:57:27 No.44126996 Report

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The argument was never about re-using existing models. It was always about intentionally removing content for zero reason.

Especially when that same re-used content is sold back to people.

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