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Anonymous Sun 05 Jul 2020 23:47:54 No.44134676 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>44135276 >>44136138 >>44137400 >>44137683 >>44138622 >>44140432 >>44141132 >>44141632 >>44144711 >>44144859 >>44145379 >>44146715 >>44149331 >>44149389 >>44150784

>bad Dragon Dancer
>bad choice item user
>bad attacker
>bad support/utility
>can't balk
How the fuck are you supposed to use non-mega Salamence in a way that doesn't get totally outclassed by Gyarados, Dragonite, Feraligatr, Garchomp, Haxorus or Hydreigon?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 06 Jul 2020 00:17:53 No.44134969 Report

Quoted By: >>44135084 >>44135113 >>44141605

Would Dual Wingbeat save it or would Dragonite still outclass it(as it's very likely to learn it too)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jul 2020 00:32:23 No.44135084 Report

Quoted By: >>44156815

>>44134969
>Dragonite outclassing Salamence

What a world we live in

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jul 2020 00:36:20 No.44135113 Report

Quoted By: >>44145539

>>44134969
Dragonite would still outclass it, especially because of Heavy Duty Boots ensuring Multiscale is never broken.
Also, Salamence can work well as a defensive pivot that can switch in on Grass types, especially physical ones. It performs this better than the other mons on your list.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jul 2020 00:56:07 No.44135276 Report

Quoted By: >>44136217 >>44139250

>>44134676
Salamence @ Life Orb
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 84 Atk / 172 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Fire Blast
- Earthquake
- Roost/Outrage/Dragon Dance

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jul 2020 02:37:21 No.44136138 Report

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>>44134676
Probably will be the best scale shot user due to moxie and being a dragon type with 135 attack.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jul 2020 02:47:32 No.44136217 Report

Quoted By: >>44136318 >>44136324 >>44136875 >>44137706 >>44140984

>>44135276
>mixed attacker
Kinda yikes, desu

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jul 2020 03:00:22 No.44136318 Report

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>>44136217
t. 900 ELO

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jul 2020 03:02:09 No.44136324 Report

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>>44136217
People ran Fire Blast on Ttar and Garchomp all the time you fucking zoomie

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jul 2020 04:09:55 No.44136875 Report

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>>44136217
>He doesn't know MixMence

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jul 2020 04:12:57 No.44136892 Report

Quoted By: >>44137188 >>44137504 >>44141660

>>44136324
>>44136324
That was before all the power creep dumbasses. The walls we have now are too strong for half assed mixed attackers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jul 2020 04:55:28 No.44137188 Report

Quoted By: >>44141111

>>44136892
MixMence is great

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jul 2020 05:29:20 No.44137400 Report

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>>44134676
You take advantage of the one turn before your opponent knows your set. Sometimes one turn of ambiguity is all it takes to eliminate a key counter on the other team to allow another Pokemon on your team to sweep.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jul 2020 05:45:05 No.44137504 Report

Quoted By: >>44141993

>>44136892
>252+ Atk Life Orb Salamence Fire Fang vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Skarmory: 120-143 (35.9 - 42.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
>172 SpA Life Orb Salamence Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Skarmory: 257-304 (76.9 - 91%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jul 2020 06:13:10 No.44137683 Report

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>>44134676
Ddance moxie just like gyarados. It is in no way an anchor or a centerpiece of a team nor should it ever be, but caught unaware your opponent is fucked.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jul 2020 06:16:34 No.44137706 Report

Quoted By: >>44138516

>>44136217
mixmence has always been the best mence set. mence thrives on its unpredictability and massive movepool

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jul 2020 06:17:33 No.44137715 Report

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He hits pretty hard from the get-go, and has Intimidate support, so he's great in dubs. Used to use him in gen 4, to cover any kills I couldn't nab from my main offensive threat. Might try to use him again once Crown Tundra drops.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jul 2020 09:43:19 No.44138516 Report

Quoted By: >>44141042 >>44149269

>>44137706
He's still splitting EV's between stats.
Not very efficient.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 06 Jul 2020 10:20:07 No.44138622 Report

Quoted By: >>44138838 >>44144967

>>44134676
>Bad Dragon Dancer

But, seriously, Wish+Defog is my favorite set.
Nobody expects support 'mence, then once they realize the ruse, they fail to take into account how hard Dragon Claw hits, no tricks required

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jul 2020 11:27:42 No.44138838 Report

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>>44138622
sauce

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Anonymous Mon 06 Jul 2020 13:10:22 No.44139250 Report

Quoted By: >>44149430 >>44156848

>>44135276

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jul 2020 16:16:56 No.44140432 Report

Quoted By: >>44140698 >>44140813 >>44154803

>>44134676
Why can't /vp/ decide whether Salamence is a better Dragonite, or shittier Dragonite?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jul 2020 16:21:53 No.44140477 Report

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>snowballs your team with moxie
Nothin personnel, kid

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jul 2020 16:46:56 No.44140698 Report

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>>44140432
because it's different between gens

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jul 2020 16:58:43 No.44140813 Report

Quoted By: >>44140820 >>44147840

>>44140432
Dragonite was a worse Salamence until it got Multiscale

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jul 2020 16:59:52 No.44140820 Report

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>>44140813
So what would Salamence need to become equal to Dragonite?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jul 2020 17:01:16 No.44140831 Report

Quoted By: >>44140858

>>44140820
A Mega Stone or 680 BST and a name change to Fug

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jul 2020 17:01:46 No.44140836 Report

Quoted By: >>44140858

>>44140820
A mega evolution

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jul 2020 17:03:51 No.44140858 Report

Quoted By: >>44140884 >>44140934 >>44141142 >>44141623

>>44140831
>>44140836
Cringe. Anything other than a shitty gimmick?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jul 2020 17:06:36 No.44140884 Report

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>>44140858
Multiscale himself duh

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jul 2020 17:13:03 No.44140934 Report

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>>44140858
Literally none. There are like 9 different Dragon/Flying types and all of them have their niches. Salamence is a fast, frail mixed attacker.
It has an interesting support moveset but a bad defensive typing for it. It's the only Dragon/Flying who could play a defensive role.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jul 2020 17:17:54 No.44140979 Report

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>>44140820
Dragon Ascent

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jul 2020 17:18:37 No.44140984 Report

Quoted By: >>44141009 >>44143169

>>44136217
Holy retard. Mence isn't slow so the slow frail mixed attacker memes don't apply.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jul 2020 17:22:03 No.44141009 Report

Quoted By: >>44141013

>>44140984
it's still slower than garchomp and latios, and because dragon is weak to itself and has 120-130 BP STAB moves, the faster dragon tends to OHKO the slower one
Dragonite is one of the few dragons who can tank a faster dragon's nuke and setup on it

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jul 2020 17:23:16 No.44141013 Report

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>>44141009
When did I mention any of that? I'm just saying mixmence is pretty good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jul 2020 17:27:21 No.44141042 Report

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>>44138516
>t. 1100 elo
Specific EV splits are to achieve specific 1H /2HKO's. Although if its just for "muh mixed offences" then yes hes retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jul 2020 17:39:07 No.44141111 Report

Quoted By: >>44141171 >>44145366

>>44137188
MixMence hasn't been all that great in the last two or so gens, but I could see it getting a resurgence with Heavy Duty Boots allowing it to switch in and out more freely which works doubly well with Intimidate (or Moxie if you want it to clean late game).
If only Salamence had U-turn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jul 2020 17:42:52 No.44141132 Report

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>>44134676
>Supposed to be the better Dragonite
>Only good when it got a Mega

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jul 2020 17:44:02 No.44141142 Report

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>>44140858
Salemance is only good if you want Speed > Bulk. Other from that, Dragonite is the better Dragon/Flying especially with Multiscale

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jul 2020 17:49:12 No.44141171 Report

Quoted By: >>44141487

>>44141111
>If only Salamence had U-turn.
Wouldn't matter, Dragonite will almost surely get Flip Turn anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jul 2020 18:30:35 No.44141487 Report

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>>44141171
That would be certainly interesting but I don't trust GameFreak's autism. The decision makers for moves today are different from the ones who conceived Dragonite as a Marine Dragon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jul 2020 18:43:01 No.44141605 Report

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>>44134969
Dual Wingbeat would keep both of them relevant, Salamence would probably be better on screens HO because of its snowballing potential. It's likely both would stop running Dragon moves in most sets, although Outrage still has some uses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jul 2020 18:44:45 No.44141623 Report

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>>44140858
A strong flying STAB move, for one

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jul 2020 18:45:50 No.44141632 Report

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>>44134676
>bad Dragon
Which one would be the best one for a Salamence?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jul 2020 18:48:44 No.44141660 Report

Quoted By: >>44141701

>>44136892
Know a better way for Tyranitar and Garchomp to bust past Ferrothorn and Skamrory?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jul 2020 18:52:41 No.44141701 Report

Quoted By: >>44141761

>>44141660
>skarmory

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jul 2020 19:01:43 No.44141761 Report

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>>44141701
Okay, now that it;s gen-8 it's all about breaking past Ferrothorn and Corviknight, I suppose. I liked gen-7 better, I've barely messed with gen-8, competitively.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jul 2020 19:26:00 No.44141993 Report

Quoted By: >>44142577

>>44137504
what kind of calc is this?
>252 Atk Life Orb Salamence Fire Fang vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Skarmory: 109-130 (32.6 - 38.9%) -- 99.4% chance to 3HKO
>0 SpA Life Orb Salamence Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Skarmory: 296-351 (88.6 - 105%) -- 31.3% chance to OHKO
versus
>252 Atk Life Orb Salamence Fire Fang vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Corviknight: 182-216 (45.5 - 54%) -- 2.3% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
0 SpA Life Orb Salamence Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Corviknight: 179-213 (44.7 - 53.2%) -- 0.4% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

Look at that. It's almost like Skarmory has been power crept by a better wall so running mixed is useless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jul 2020 20:37:35 No.44142577 Report

Quoted By: >>44145556

>>44141993
>skarmory 252 def+ 4 SpD
>corviknight 4 def + 252 SpD+
Gee I wonder why fire blast was more effective against the skarmory you fucking retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jul 2020 21:45:05 No.44143169 Report

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>>44140984
It's fine for a mon to have mixed attacking stats because that gives it versatility.
But I was specifically replying to a guy suggesting a mixed set, which requires you to split your EV's and make both attacking stats weaker than they could be.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jul 2020 00:07:35 No.44144711 Report

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>>44134676
Use it in gen 4.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jul 2020 00:20:17 No.44144859 Report

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>>44134676
Mence is the biggest victim of powercreep in the whole franchise, once known as the most fearsome dragon outside of legendaries has now been reduced to being a poorman's dragonite
Feels bad man

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jul 2020 00:30:19 No.44144967 Report

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>>44138622
How do you get Wish Salamence in game? And even if you did wouldn't it need its moves wiped to get the battle-ready mark in Gen 8?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jul 2020 01:07:21 No.44145345 Report

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For cartridge play, battle stadium/VGC Mence is gona be way better the Dragonite when they return in the DLC. Moxie + Max airstream (dual wingbeat) is going to destroy stuff in singles the same way Gyarados does now. Mence was always better in VGC with intimidate support and now air stream as well. From Gamefreak's perspective regular Mence doesn't need anything else.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jul 2020 01:09:11 No.44145366 Report

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>>44141111
>MixMence
It’s fucking great now fuck off

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jul 2020 01:09:50 No.44145379 Report

Quoted By: >>44145427 >>44145495 >>44147871

>>44134676
I ain't the smartest one, so why is he facein' so much powercreep?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jul 2020 01:13:46 No.44145427 Report

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>>44145379
Dragonite got Multiscale and Fairy-type was introduced.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jul 2020 01:18:30 No.44145495 Report

Quoted By: >>44145536

>>44145379
He’s not these low elo shitters just don’t know how to handle a lady like mence

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jul 2020 01:22:13 No.44145536 Report

Quoted By: >>44145557

>>44145495
Salamence is male. It's a badass violent killer dragon and that's highly masculine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jul 2020 01:22:27 No.44145539 Report

Quoted By: >>44155838

>>44135113
>Heavy Duty Boots ensuring Multiscale is never broken
I prefer Weakness Policy on my Multiscale. A bit of a risk, but the payoff is massive thanks to Extremespeed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jul 2020 01:24:32 No.44145556 Report

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>>44142577
>Gee I wonder why fire blast was more effective against the skarmory you fucking retard
you are the retard
uninvested corviknight is almost as bulky as fully invested skarmory, that's why corviknight can afford to run max special defense

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jul 2020 01:24:46 No.44145557 Report

Quoted By: >>44145595 >>44145607 >>44147874

>>44145536
Female animals are violent killing machines, and if you dumb poke phones disagree then feel free to try and fuck an alligator’s cloaca.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jul 2020 01:28:07 No.44145595 Report

Quoted By: >>44145617 >>44145647 >>44145685 >>44145987 >>44151355 >>44151367 >>44159007

>>44145557
Males are still better at it. They are bigger, stronger and generally more aggressive.
>The saltwater crocodile is the largest living reptile. Males grow to a length of up to 6 m (20 ft), rarely exceeding 6.3 m (21 ft) or a weight of 1,000–1,300 kg (2,200–2,900 lb). Females are much smaller and rarely surpass 3 m (10 ft).
Fuck off, just because females *can* be vicious doesn't mean it should be disregarded that males are way better at it.
Salamence is a big, powerful and aggressive dragon so it's male. Projecting femininity on to it ruins the power fantasy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jul 2020 01:29:09 No.44145607 Report

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>>44145557
*pokephiles

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jul 2020 01:30:15 No.44145617 Report

Quoted By: >>44145740

>>44145595
Shut the fuck up you dumb autist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jul 2020 01:32:48 No.44145647 Report

Quoted By: >>44145740

>>44145595
And female hyenas are larger than males with phalluses larger than their penises and they regularly rape them with their organic dildos. And female crocodiles still hunt and kill their own and are apex predators. And no I’m not such an insecure homo that I’m gonna my female comp Salamence a male because of your pathetic power fantasy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jul 2020 01:37:09 No.44145685 Report

Quoted By: >>44145740

>>44145595
Animals don’t have masculinity or femininity moron

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jul 2020 01:43:28 No.44145740 Report

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>>44145647
>And female hyenas are larger than males with phalluses larger than their penises and they regularly rape them with their organic dildos.
This is the exception though, not the rule. Males are more aggressive and physically larger and stronger in the majority of species. They have evolved to fight over food, territory, and females and have greater destructive capacity because of it.

>>44145617
no

>>44145685
Yes, they do. Testosterone is masculine. Estrogen is feminine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jul 2020 01:46:02 No.44145770 Report

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Nice reddit spacing
No more (You)s for you

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jul 2020 02:09:13 No.44145987 Report

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>>44145595
Salamence is not a crocodile it is probably a salamander also in salamanders there isn't a big sexual dimorphism, only that the females are a little bigger and more rounded than the males.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jul 2020 03:24:33 No.44146715 Report

Quoted By: >>44146743 >>44146829

>>44134676
>non-mega
That's your first mistake.
Salamence has a mega specifically to not get powercrept like that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jul 2020 03:27:39 No.44146743 Report

Quoted By: >>44147959

>>44146715
But the mega design is awful, so I don't want to use it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jul 2020 03:35:53 No.44146829 Report

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>>44146715
Erased from canon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jul 2020 05:36:21 No.44147840 Report

Quoted By: >>44149245

>>44140813
And mence got moxie and eventually a mega

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Anonymous Tue 07 Jul 2020 05:43:11 No.44147871 Report

Quoted By: >>44147925 >>44148386 >>44149407

>>44145379
In 2 words, Brave Bird. Mence doesn't have this so it lacks the flying stab it desires and i can assure you that Mence completely snowballs through shit if it could muscle past fairies like Clefable. Despite being UUBL last generation and also outclassed a bit by Mega-Gyarados (and sometimes Gyarados himself), it turns out that moxie dragon dancers are stupidly busted if they setup safely, especially when both are backed up by Z-Fly.

And for the people that love to overhype Dragonite, it should be worth reminding that Dragonite was also UUBL last generation and about as unviable as Mence because Dragonite doesn't hit as hard as any relevant mon and good luck existing as a physical attacker in the reign of Landorus-T.

And smogon aside, people who say Dragonite is better are coping with the fact Mence has always been relevant in VGC, more than Dragonite ever wishes to be.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jul 2020 05:43:37 No.44147874 Report

Quoted By: >>44148010

>>44145557
>feel free to try and fuck an alligator’s cloaca.
Florida man already did it, a /k/mando made does addicted to his dick and several guys from lit are "engaged" to dolphins.

Your move bro.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jul 2020 05:53:56 No.44147925 Report

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>>44147871
>Mence has always been relevant in VGC, more than Dragonite ever wishes to be.

That won't be true anymore. Intimidate has been nerfed significantly while Dragonite is one of the best WP dynamaxers in Pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jul 2020 05:59:38 No.44147959 Report

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>>44146743
based

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jul 2020 06:10:00 No.44148010 Report

Quoted By: >>44148109

>>44147874
Source: my ass

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jul 2020 06:25:45 No.44148109 Report

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>>44148010
Oh sweet summer child, he doesn't know about the Korean deer wife culture nor the cursed dolphin threads.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jul 2020 07:14:08 No.44148386 Report

Quoted By: >>44148399 >>44149407

>>44147871
They're both probably gonna get Dual Wingbeat when they come back.
Will that make up for the lack of Brave Bird?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jul 2020 07:17:32 No.44148399 Report

Quoted By:

>>44148386
I kinda want close combat salamence.
Or iron defense/body press from Shelgon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jul 2020 09:52:52 No.44149245 Report

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>>44147840
A fat lot of good that mega does when it got retconned out of existence.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jul 2020 09:58:34 No.44149269 Report

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>>44138516
sauce?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jul 2020 10:11:58 No.44149331 Report

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>>44134676
This was quality bait.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jul 2020 10:25:06 No.44149389 Report

Quoted By: >>44158994

>>44134676
Never, ever take competitive advice from /vp/.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jul 2020 10:29:19 No.44149407 Report

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>>44148386
>Will that make up for the lack of Brave Bird?
Kind of, it's noticeably weaker, but still respectably powerful. It is certainly much, much better than Fly.
>>44147871
>good luck existing as a physical attacker in the reign of Landorus-T
Don't get too cocky, Dragonite has Inner Focus and since Multiscale is hard to mantain on Band it might as well.

252+ Atk Choice Band Dragonite Dual Wingbeat (2 hits) vs. 252 HP / 112+ Def Landorus-Therian: 194-230 (50.7 - 60.2%)
252+ Atk Choice Band Dragonite Outrage vs. 252 HP / 112+ Def Landorus-Therian: 291-343 (76.1 - 89.7%)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jul 2020 10:33:51 No.44149430 Report

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>>44139250
This thing honestly needs to die

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Anonymous Tue 07 Jul 2020 14:43:13 No.44150784 Report

Quoted By: >>44152609

>>44134676
>Use mixed mence
>A little rodent prevent you winning a pokemon world championship

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jul 2020 16:13:49 No.44151355 Report

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>>44145595
>Being this gay

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jul 2020 16:16:26 No.44151367 Report

Quoted By: >>44153704

>>44145595
In many species, the female is much larger

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jul 2020 16:46:08 No.44151575 Report

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Referring to a species of pokemon as "she" is a mental illness red flag.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jul 2020 18:50:14 No.44152609 Report

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>>44150784
>252 Atk Tyranitar Rock Slide vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Pachirisu: 114-135 (35.1 - 41.6%)
>252+ SpA Salamence Draco Meteor vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Pachirisu: 226-267 (69.7 - 82.4%)
If Jeudy had maxed out his SpA on Mence, he could've KO'd that Pachirisu. Probably still wouldn't have won, though, given how bad of a position he was in at that point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jul 2020 20:47:31 No.44153704 Report

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>>44151367
It's a minority.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jul 2020 22:39:14 No.44154803 Report

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>>44140432
Because they serve different roles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Jul 2020 00:21:03 No.44155838 Report

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>>44145539
Really, it depends on whether you're playing singles or doubles.
Weakness policy is much better in doubles because you can activate it on your own.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Jul 2020 02:11:21 No.44156815 Report

Quoted By: >>44156915

>>44135084
A world where Dragonite has Multiscale.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Jul 2020 02:15:28 No.44156848 Report

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>>44139250
Fairy was a mistake

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 08 Jul 2020 02:22:45 No.44156915 Report

Quoted By: >>44156921 >>44158475

>>44156815
>Heavy Duty Boots Multiscale

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Jul 2020 02:23:56 No.44156921 Report

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>>44156915
ubers with lugia will be fun

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Jul 2020 06:38:48 No.44158475 Report

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>>44156915
Will Dragonite finally be the top meta threat it already dreamed of being?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 08 Jul 2020 08:43:33 No.44158994 Report

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>>44149389
What do you mean?
/vp/ is always right about competitive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Jul 2020 08:47:05 No.44159007 Report

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>>44145595
nobody cares dude

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