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Pre-Gen 6 fucking sucks

Anonymous Sat 11 Jul 2020 19:23:47 No.44190142 View View Reply Original Report

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>primitive EXP system encourages powerlevelling one mon instead of using a full team
>slow EV training
>RNGtastic, tedious breeding
>HMs gimping movesets and forcing dedicated slaves to waste party slots
>no Fairy type
>dead online
>unbalanced competitive
>can't transfer up from gens 1/2
>no Megas
>no regional variants
>no changing Natures
>no character customization
>missing content (tickets and distributions unavailable without hacking, Dream World dead, e-reader shit)

All of these issues and more have been rectified since XY, which is where the series actually got good. Seriously Pokemon has only improved over time in its mechanics, features and content. Nostalgiakeks need to fuck off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Jul 2020 19:27:07 No.44190173 Report

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not saying any of these are bad but I don't see how a lot of these are particularly relevant for an in-game playthrough which is what the majority of players play the games for and what is most oft praised about the past games

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Jul 2020 19:29:58 No.44190192 Report

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>>44190142
>The EXP system encourages you to work hard and train your team instead of having them all level up at once and make the game easy
>Again, hard work
>I never noticed anything bad about the breeding
>Okay this is true
>Who cares about Fairy Type
>Only competitive people care about online
>Once again, only competitive people care
>Those games have a different engine
>Who cares about Megas
>Regional variants are cool but not necessary
>Changing natures is too easy
>Some people don't care about character customization
>The events were better before instead of being given a free Pokemon

You're wrong. XY is when the series got bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Jul 2020 19:30:52 No.44190203 Report

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>>44190142
I don’t have the time or the energy to go through this point for point right now so I’ll just focus on
>missing content (tickets and distributions unavailable without hacking)
You do realize that absolutely still applies to gen 6 and onward right? In fact I’m pretty certain outside of the small window of availability in ~2017 there has been no way to legitimately obtain Marshadow. In Sun and Moon unless you partook in specific online tournaments you can’t get half the mega stones either.

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Anonymous Sat 11 Jul 2020 19:43:39 No.44190292 Report

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>>44190142
>Better exp system that encourages actually using every pokemon in order to level them up, power leveling and solo running was already punished in gen 5
>As it should be, it didn't even take that long with vitamins giving a head start. Only real issue is how hard it was to reset EVs
>I'll admit breeding was worse but only competitive fags would notice, hardly detracts from the games actual quality
>Again, fixed in gen 5, moreso than gen 6, and they were meant to balance out utility and battle power it's your fault for using a slave instead
>Good
>Not at the time dumbass, and even so, good
>Doesn't detract from the quality of the actual fucking game
>Yea this sucks but I'd be lying if I said it actually effects me since I don't transfer up
>Thank fucking god
>Thank fucking god
>Only competitive fags care, effects the actual game very little and it's weird that it can be done at all now
>Overrated feature that was thematically relevant in XY ad forced thereafter by fans
>Oh shit, you just made me respond to bait, fuck you, I should've caught on sooner

Idc if this is bait, it's retarded. Comp fags need to stop acting like competitive shit worsens the games themselves it wasn't until gen 6 that gamefreak started leaning on Comp to make up for the games quality

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Anonymous Sat 11 Jul 2020 21:19:28 No.44191079 Report

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>>44190142
Unironically agreeing. Even if the games were always shit, at least they became more convenient in time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Jul 2020 21:30:45 No.44191182 Report

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>>44190142
>primitive EXP system encourages powerlevelling one mon instead of using a full team
Weak bait considering Sword/Shield have a permanent EXP share and you're bombarded with XP candies that will instantly overlevel your Pokemon before you even step foot in Turffield.

>slow EV training
EV training only changed this generation where you can finally roid up your Pokemon with no limits. EV training is nonetheless the same for decades.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Jul 2020 21:33:31 No.44191212 Report

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>>44190142
>>primitive EXP system encourages powerlevelling one mon instead of using a full team
Player problem
>>slow EV training
Doesn't matter for actual gameplay
>>RNGtastic, tedious breeding
Doesn't matter for actual gameplay
>>HMs gimping movesets and forcing dedicated slaves to waste party slots
I'll give you this one
>>no Fairy type
Fair
>>dead online
Doesn't matter for actual gameplay
>>unbalanced competitive
Doesn't matter for actual gameplay
>>can't transfer up from gens 1/2
Fair
>>no Megas
Fair
>>no regional variants
Fair
>>no changing Natures
Doesn't matter for actual gameplay
>>no character customization
Importance is ubjective
>>missing content (tickets and distributions unavailable without hacking, Dream World dead, e-reader shit)
Fair

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Anonymous Sat 11 Jul 2020 21:38:11 No.44191238 Report

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I've seen a lot of unironic Kalos praising on this board recently and it has me perplexed. XY are the worst mainline games ever made (the game itself not 6th generation pokemon.) This has to be an issue of kids who played XY first coming of age right?

>Kalos began the Kanto pandering
>Kalos threw all balance out the window with party exp
>Kalos began the constant cutscene interruption
>Kalos began soulless 3D models and animations
>Kalos was the beginning of the end for fun story modes before you got into just doing pvp
>Kalos ruined RS remakes leaving us with seething Hoenn fags shitting up threads.
>Kalos had no post game compared to gens 3,4,5

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Jul 2020 22:01:03 No.44191451 Report

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>>44190142
Just admit you don't actually care about pokémon then, but just about your pokégirl dresser simulator.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Jul 2020 22:17:26 No.44191605 Report

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>>44190142
>primitive EXP system encourages powerlevelling one mon instead of using a full team
You are a bit slow, aren't you?
Powerlevelling was a punishment for noobs/kids for only using their starter. Sure it was useful early game, but they got punished late game where match ups use to be more prominent and thus hindering those who only had one good mon, let alone battle facilities where you couldn't go beyond the first seven battles if you only had one mon.
Now noobs still only use their starter and powerlevel it but also happen to have an almost fully fledged team despite the fact they barely raise them if it wasn't fir the global exp.
So nothing changed, the only difference is that the game used to punish bad players and reward proper player, while now it's some shallow shit that allows anyone to succeeds. Like the game you play at school with that retarded kid that the teacher forces you to play where nobody lose and everybody win.

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Anonymous Sat 11 Jul 2020 22:21:39 No.44191654 Report

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>>44190142
We love to shit on new Pokemon, but as a old player I fully welcome the new quality of life changes.

Before even EGGS when traded lost their shiny pokemon inside, SS fixed that

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Jul 2020 22:22:06 No.44191661 Report

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>>44191238
Kalos' Exp Share is amazingly terrible. Alola and Galar both do it better, you have to turn off Exp. Share in Kalos or you straight up feel bad for your opponent you get so overlevelled.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Jul 2020 22:24:39 No.44191684 Report

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>>44190142
>>primitive EXP system encourages powerlevelling one mon instead of using a full team
>>HMs gimping movesets and forcing dedicated slaves to waste party slots
>>no Fairy type
>>dead online
>>unbalanced competitive
>>no Megas
>>no regional variants
>>no character customization
>>missing content (tickets and distributions unavailable without hacking, Dream World dead, e-reader shit)
These are not problems

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Jul 2020 22:26:41 No.44191702 Report

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>>44191605
Infact, in a sense, it's the other way around: it's the new system that encorauges you to use but your starter/early steamroller because you don't need to do otherwise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Jul 2020 22:28:54 No.44191723 Report

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>>44190142
These are all great things, but it doesn’t change the fact that HGSS, Platinum, Emerald, and maybe Gen 5 are still the best Pokémon games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Jul 2020 22:29:12 No.44191727 Report

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>>44190142
>no Fairy type
Good

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Jul 2020 22:41:32 No.44191847 Report

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>>44190142
>primitive EXP system encourages powerlevelling one mon instead of using a full team
Gen 5 already had the best Exp. balance. It punished you for trying to powerlevel one mon and encouraged having several team members, while also making it a little easier to add a new and weaker one to the squad. If you’d take the Gen 5 Exp. balancing and make the Exp. Share held item made available much earlier in the game, that’d be the perfect balance. It’s way too easy to level up Pokémon without even using them now.
>slow EV training
Only competitivefags care
>RNGtastic, tedious breeding
Only competitivefags care
>>HMs gimping movesets and forcing dedicated slaves to waste party slots
This is true. One of the very few improvements made in Gen 7-8.
>no Fairy type
Sure
>dead online
Has nothing to do with the actual game’s quality, you’ll be able to say the same for Gen 6-7 soon enough.
>unbalanced competitive
Only competitivefags care
>can't transfer up from gens 1/2
There were remakes for a reason
>no Megas
kinda agreed, but they were poorly executed
>no regional variants
sure
>no changing Natures
Only competitivefags care
>no character customization
Sure
>missing content (tickets and distributions unavailable without hacking, Dream World dead, e-reader shit)
Has nothing to do with the actual game’s quality, you’ll be able to say the same for Gen 6-7 soon enough.

Overall, pre-Gen 6 was still better in several ways. I’ll admit that Gens 6-8 added some great features that if added to earlier titles would greatly improve them. But even so, I’d much rather play one of the 2D games any day.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Jul 2020 22:43:51 No.44191871 Report

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>>44190142
>>e-reader shit)
>didn't play any gens between 4 and 8
Watchu talkin' bout ereader?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Jul 2020 22:56:05 No.44191989 Report

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>>44190142
Noooooooooooooooooooooo
You're only allowed to like the gen I grew up with!!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Jul 2020 23:01:01 No.44192033 Report

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>>44190142
It's about time Gen 6-8 shills just started admitting that they hate everything before Gen 6. I honestly respect this more than people pretending any 3D era game is on par with a 2D era game. Your opinions still suck though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Jul 2020 23:05:17 No.44192076 Report

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>>44190142
I'm so glad I'm not you and I don't even like myself.

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Anonymous Sat 11 Jul 2020 23:22:41 No.44192246 Report

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>>44191238
the age to be in your prime for pokemon is like 6-8 so no, it's likely just coronasummer making people contrarian/underagies coming in
i don't mind it so much because i don't like it when games are universally dunked on

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Jul 2020 23:26:59 No.44192283 Report

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>>44190142
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