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Anonymous Thu 16 Jul 2020 22:14:32 No.44237390 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>44237399 >>44237554 >>44238144 >>44238165 >>44239456 >>44239495 >>44240188

No Pokémon has been as good in OU in two back-to-back generations as Snorlax.

Discuss.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jul 2020 22:15:25 No.44237399 Report

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>>44237390
Its almost like Gen 1 and 2 are mechanically broken or something

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Anonymous Thu 16 Jul 2020 22:31:53 No.44237546 Report

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>its almost like

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Anonymous Thu 16 Jul 2020 22:33:07 No.44237554 Report

Quoted By: >>44237650 >>44240312 >>44241303

>>44237390
I never want to see the gen 2 meta ever again as long as I live.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jul 2020 22:43:58 No.44237650 Report

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>>44237554
>he doesn't want to see the most skill-based meta

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Anonymous Thu 16 Jul 2020 23:41:59 No.44238144 Report

Quoted By: >>44241300

>>44237390
I'll do you one better. Three gens.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jul 2020 23:44:22 No.44238161 Report

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>>44237650
lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jul 2020 23:45:09 No.44238165 Report

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>>44237390
I feel Snorlax has been good in OU in two back to back gens.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jul 2020 23:51:06 No.44238213 Report

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>>44237650
The Gen 2 Meta has been solved.

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Anonymous Thu 16 Jul 2020 23:52:08 No.44238223 Report

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>>44238161

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 02:32:29 No.44239335 Report

Quoted By: >>44239440

>What is Gengar

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 02:36:20 No.44239352 Report

Quoted By: >>44239440

That's not Gengar

>Gen 1 OU
>Gen 2 OU
>Gen 3 OU
>Gen 4 OU
>Gen 5 OU
>Gen 6 OU Mega Uber
>Gen 7 UU Mega Uber
>Gen 8 UUBL Gigantamax Uber

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 02:50:58 No.44239440 Report

Quoted By: >>44240205 >>44240682

>>44239335
>>44239352
Gengar isn't the definitive best Pokemon in any of those gens though

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 02:53:14 No.44239456 Report

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>>44237390
>Wobb was banned for two entire generations
>Chomp was banned for a gen and a half

Snorlax is babby tier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 02:53:21 No.44239457 Report

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Zapdos

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 02:58:02 No.44239495 Report

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>>44237390
Snorlax was only good when there were like 12 then 20 mons to choose from.

Garchomp, T-tar and Lando-T have had way more usage with much more competition

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 04:53:47 No.44240188 Report

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>>44237390
Mewtwo.
It's been too good for OU for 8 generations and counting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 04:56:19 No.44240198 Report

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>>44240188
He said in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 04:57:42 No.44240205 Report

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>>44239440
>moves the goal post

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 05:00:15 No.44240220 Report

Quoted By: >>44240240

If gen 1/2/ had some good high damage fighting moves it wouldn't have been nearly as strong

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 05:04:19 No.44240240 Report

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>>44240220
But it didn't so it is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 05:22:18 No.44240312 Report

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>>44237554
tpbp

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 05:25:37 No.44240327 Report

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>>44240205
The original claim was:
>No Pokémon has been as good in OU in two back-to-back generations as Snorlax.
Snorlax is a top 1 Pokemon in two consecutive OUs. Gengar also has a solid record, but it has never been better than a top 3 Pokemon, so how could it possibly have a better two-gen record than Snorlax? The original claim holds.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 06:36:48 No.44240672 Report

Quoted By: >>44240687 >>44240734

Hey, OP, that's a weird way to say Gengar.

>Gen 1 OU
>Gen 2 OU
>Gen 3 OU
>Gen 4 OU
>Gen 5 OU
>Gen 6 Ubers (Mega)
>Gen 7 Ubers (Mega)
>Gen 8 OU

Gengar has never not been an absolute powerhouse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 06:39:05 No.44240682 Report

Quoted By: >>44240742 >>44240988

>>44239440
Snorlax was not the definitive best Pokemon of Gen 1.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 06:39:39 No.44240687 Report

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>>44240672
He's never been top tier though, always second fiddle to better things

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 06:49:03 No.44240734 Report

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>>44240672
Gen 8 is BL.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 06:51:00 No.44240742 Report

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>>44240682
Gen 1 has a 4 way tie for best mon, with all four being near 100% usage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 07:56:46 No.44240988 Report

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>>44240682
Many would disagree with you, it is very hard to kill and very good at making progress at a point in the game where Tauros might not even find a chance to get in yet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 08:02:53 No.44241026 Report

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>>44240742
>Gen 1 has a 4 way tie for best mon
Are they Tauros, Starmie, Exeggutor, and Slowbro? Or are one or two of them replaced by Chansey and/or Snorlax?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 08:06:18 No.44241041 Report

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>>44241026
tauros (90%), chansey (88%), snorlax (78%), exeggutor (66%)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 08:08:09 No.44241046 Report

Quoted By: >>44241063 >>44241245

>>44240742
>>44241026
| 1 | Snorlax | 234 | 99.15% | 50.00% |
| 2 | Chansey | 231 | 97.88% | 49.35% |
| 3 | Tauros | 227 | 96.19% | 48.02% |
| 4 | Starmie | 182 | 77.12% | 48.35% |
| 5 | Exeggutor | 167 | 70.76% | 48.50% |
The 'Big 4' isn't really a thing anymore since builds with other forms of Sleep (mainly Jynx or Sing Chansey) don't need Exeggutor but the 'Big 3' Normals are all basically mandatory.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 08:11:01 No.44241063 Report

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>>44241046
isn't chansey falling off because counter got a clause after the desync glitch was discovered?
those must be old stats

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 08:25:29 No.44241093 Report

Quoted By: >>44243270 >>44243356

>>44241063
Those are SPL stats from a few months ago, I just don't have more recent tournament stats on-hand. I don't see why Chansey would fall off that much though, Counter certainly wasn't a must-have before the clause and Chansey obviously still fills so many roles in builder.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 09:01:29 No.44241230 Report

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>>44240734
Gen 8 is Ubers (Gigantamax)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 09:06:55 No.44241245 Report

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>>44241041
>>44241046
The duality of man

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Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 09:24:20 No.44241300 Report

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>>44238144
Nowhere near as good as Snorlax.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 09:25:43 No.44241303 Report

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>>44237554
I love how explosion and Self destruct work in that game.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 16:10:44 No.44243248 Report

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>>44241303
Why?

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Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 16:15:08 No.44243270 Report

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>>44241093
Reflect Chansey and Reflect Snorlax are kind of big deals now. Tauros used to be #1, but I'd say it's a 3-way tie now. And whereas with Tauros, you always know it's running Body Slam, Hyper Beam, Earthquake and Blizzard, the other two top Normal-types can run so many different viable sets. Only Softboiled on Chansey is guaranteed, as there is one good Snorlax set that doesn't even run Body Slam.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 16:30:57 No.44243356 Report

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>>44243270
Tauros is predictable but is still a pain the ass to stop. Same goes with Alakazam. There is no definitive strategy to get a clean kill.

>>44241093
Chansey is still top tier. There no other Pokémon that can thunder waves like her. She is so reliable that I have trouble running teams without her.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 18:02:05 No.44243896 Report

Quoted By: >>44243912

>>44241300
>Defined Gen III, IV, and V's metas
I'm thinking he's based.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 18:04:28 No.44243912 Report

Quoted By: >>44244752

>>44243896
You can make good teams in all those generations without Tyranitar. You can't make good teams in RBY without Snorlax, or to clarify, you can't make teams that wouldn't be improved if you replaced one of the Pokémon with Snorlax.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 19:19:44 No.44244507 Report

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>>44241300
Because later gens were more balanced than 1 and 2.
Nothing will be as broken as Snorlax again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 19:44:09 No.44244752 Report

Quoted By: >>44245522

>>44243912
RBY Snorlax is overrated, Tauros and Chansey are better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 19:53:29 No.44244820 Report

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>>44241230
Well, by technicality, its GMax is Ubers. Like every other GMax. Otherwise it's in a weird area between UUBL and OU.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 20:15:05 No.44244995 Report

Quoted By: >>44245037 >>44245599

How could you say such a thing when Mew and Alakazam exist?

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Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 20:20:08 No.44245037 Report

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>>44244995
Alakazam dropped to UU in gen 2

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Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 21:51:24 No.44245522 Report

Quoted By: >>44245764 >>44245798

>>44244752

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 22:03:25 No.44245599 Report

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>>44244995
>Mew
Dropped to UU in gen 5 after 4 consecutive generations in Ubers, and has been OU or UU since
>Alakazam
Dropped to UU in 2 and 4

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 22:23:07 No.44245764 Report

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>>44245522
Quality meme

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>>44245522
>>44245599
Did you check those dubdubs tho?

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