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Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 01:49:56 No.44239074 View View Reply Original Report

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Would you say these are the 25 best abilities?

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Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 01:51:06 No.44239079 Report

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>>44239074
no 1 is beast boost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 01:52:03 No.44239086 Report

Quoted By: >>44239100 >>44241703

>>44239074
Homie u have Intrepid Sword over fucking Gorrila Tactics how im i supost to take this shit serious.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 01:52:55 No.44239090 Report

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>>44239074
Wonder Guard is sweet. But it's only for Shedinja. Would be cool on any other pokémon. Even if the HP is only 1 or it can't learn any physical or special moves.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 01:54:31 No.44239099 Report

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>>44239074
is it right to rank good abilities if they're only on 1 pokemon

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Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 01:54:36 No.44239100 Report

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>>44239086
youre reading it backwards and also the "rankings" are very debatable anyways

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 02:02:08 No.44239147 Report

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>>44239074
I don't understand if I'm supposed to rate these abilities in a vacuum or tied to the mons they belong to. For example wonder guard is shedinja only but shedinja is built so that it's not broken with it so I would assume you mean the ability in a vacuum, which is indeed very scary in anything with higher HP. But then stuff like power construct and stance change are VERY user-dependant, you can't just slap them on everything and automatically make that mon top tier like you'd do wonder guard or regenerator. How is power construct better than prankster and regenerator anyways?

Also shadow shield is better than multiscale. It prevents mold breaker from working on it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 02:15:05 No.44239222 Report

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Where's Beast Boost? I honestly don't see how the terrain setting abilities are better than it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 02:58:27 No.44239497 Report

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Where's snow warning... Sturdy, focus Sasha, gale of wings, full hp related abilities imploding. Or just ruining rain\sun\sand

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 03:00:18 No.44239515 Report

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>GT over Intrepid Sword
How?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 03:02:23 No.44239523 Report

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Pressure should at least be in the top 20.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 03:06:43 No.44239548 Report

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>>44239074
Tough claws is better than some

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 04:04:50 No.44239937 Report

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>>44239074
why is shadow tag and arena trap taking up two different spots when they are the same exact ability.

Moody, and the auras don't belong on this list.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 04:08:34 No.44239956 Report

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>>44239074
On paper, these are, but I feel like the pokemon that actually get access to them matter almost as much as the ability in most circumstances

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 04:11:16 No.44239965 Report

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>>44239937
Shadow tag traps absolutely everything besides ghosts. Arena trap doesn't trap flying types or levitate users. ST is superior.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 04:17:20 No.44239997 Report

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>>44239965
OH. i'm an idiot i forgot that mechanic. oops apologies

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Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 04:21:16 No.44240019 Report

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>>44239074
>Scrappy or Intimidate aren't but Steely Spirit is.
LMFAO

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 04:31:17 No.44240081 Report

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>>44239074
How are you gonna put Drizzle and Drought in the same slot but give Shadow Tag and Arena Trap different slots?

Besides, if Wonder Guard is "Number One" despite being only on Shedinja, then the rest of the abilities should also be judged off their own inherent merit as well. Meaning, Beast Boost should be in the top 5 and Disguise is easily ten ranks higher

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Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 04:32:48 No.44240089 Report

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>>44239074
You completely forgot Intimidate, and Moxie probably deserves to be on this list as well.

Drop Sand Stream, its trash compared to the rest of this.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 04:34:32 No.44240096 Report

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Delta Stream over Huge/Pure Power? lol what?

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Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 04:39:08 No.44240123 Report

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>>44239074
>Iron First
>Technician
>Fucking Contrary
The fact that wonder guard is #1 should already discredit this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 11:19:52 No.44241646 Report

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>>44239074
Bump

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Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 11:21:45 No.44241649 Report

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>>44239074
wonder guard is theoretically good but in practicality it isn't

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Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 11:23:42 No.44241658 Report

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>>44239074
>no beast boost
>no intimidate
>no moxie

I shiggy diggy

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Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 11:27:41 No.44241668 Report

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>>44239222
It should be above speed boost, which is pretty high

Also, intimidate bro

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Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 11:35:06 No.44241691 Report

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>>44239074
Neutralizing Gas is #0.
Abilities that induce a form change are not rankable.
Imposter should be #2.
Terrains are not equal, Psychic and Grassy are better than Electric and Misty.
Water Bubble is much superior to the abilities it is ranked alongside to. Tough Claws is equal to Adaptability.
Shadow Shield is superior to Multiscale as it ignores Mold Breaker.
Contrary, Poison Heal, Fur Coat/Ice Scales and arguably Guts, Intimidate and Soul Heart need to be ranked.
Moxie is inferior to Beast Boost overall and the case for ranking Beast Boost is more tenuous than the case for ranking Soul Heart.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 11:38:37 No.44241703 Report

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>>44239086
>>44239515
Maybe OP thinks Gorilla Tactics is better because it's not affected by Unaware and it can't be removed by haze or can can't be stolen by stuff like Spectral Thief or Heart Swap? Still, the fact that you're locked into a single move obviously makes it worse. Definitely one of the biggest flaws of this ranking.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 11:43:33 No.44241715 Report

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Not really fair to put all the terrains under one. For example Psychic Terrain is much better than Misty Terrain.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 11:53:41 No.44241752 Report

Quoted By: >>44241859

>>44241649
Wonderguard should prevent damage from entry hazards and poison (but not burn) as well. However, as it stands, it would be absolutely broken on any other pokemon. Like imagine Wonderguard Linoone, instant OU. Even Magikarp could hop up a tier with it. Something already high up would go to ubers (think Wonderguard eviolite Chansey).

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 12:18:55 No.44241859 Report

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>>44241752
Wonder Guard Chansey/Blissey would be instantly and unanimously banned from Ubers, you're putting things pretty lightly. Wonder Guard doesn't actually mean you instantly die from status, entry hazards or weather. It just works that way on Shedinja because it has a hardcoded HP stat of 1.

A Pokemon with actually functional HP would be insanely gamebreakingly busted with Wonder Guard.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 12:48:33 No.44241977 Report

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>>44240123
>The fact that wonder guard is #1 should already discredit this.
Spotted the retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 13:45:27 No.44242299 Report

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>>44239074
Abilities don't exist in a vacuum, therefore its stupid to rank them. Most abilities are considered good because of movepool, stats and typing tied to them. Imagine a water type with Drought, it would probably be shit. Imagine a Prankster mon without any notable status moves, it would probably be shit. Imagine a mon as quick as Snorlax with Speed Boost, it would probably be shit.
Some abilities are clearly straight upgrades to others, like Insomnia is probably inferior to Magic Bounce, but trying to rank them on their own seems pointless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 13:54:05 No.44242339 Report

Quoted By: >>44242455

>>44239074
Why have a shit ton of / but list sand stream separately from drizzle and drought?

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Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 14:12:41 No.44242455 Report

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>>44242339
Not OP but Sand Stream doesn't directly affect the damage output of attacks. Drizzle and Drought do.

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