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Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 13:37:48 No.44258847 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>44258881 >>44258901 >>44259097 >>44259204 >>44259210 >>44259385 >>44259424 >>44260534 >>44261403 >>44261412 >>44261416 >>44261673 >>44262343

is the worst villain in the series

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 13:38:53 No.44258854 Report

Quoted By: >>44258916 >>44258919

Gen 2 Team Rocket was by far the most pathetic one

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 13:39:15 No.44258857 Report

Quoted By: >>44258923 >>44262086 >>44262316

At least he had motivations. Can’t say the same for Cyrus

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 13:43:28 No.44258881 Report

Quoted By: >>44258903

>>44258847
That's not Rose you posted. And Lysandre's anime incarnation is kino.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 13:47:55 No.44258901 Report

Quoted By: >>44258946 >>44259095

>>44258847
Are you forgetting about Rose?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 13:48:11 No.44258903 Report

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>>44258881
>Lysandre's anime incarnation
Same trash as the game

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 13:50:33 No.44258916 Report

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>>44258854
I'd take most pathetic over most autistic any day

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 13:50:43 No.44258919 Report

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>>44258854
they were better then him

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 13:51:45 No.44258923 Report

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>>44258857
cyrus was better

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 13:52:00 No.44258925 Report

Quoted By: >>44258952

Are there seriously people so braindead that they don't understand Lysandre and his motivations?

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Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 13:53:45 No.44258935 Report

Quoted By: >>44258957

Rose exists. And arguably had more potential as Chairman of the Pokemon League.
>Could've been rigging Leon's matches to keep that stupid fuck as champion
>Could've been doing some form of abuse towards gym leaders under his direct command
>Could've done so much shit but MUH 1000 YEARS

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 13:56:18 No.44258946 Report

Quoted By: >>44261075

>>44258901
rose is better

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 13:57:19 No.44258952 Report

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>>44258925
they were retarded

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Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 13:57:56 No.44258955 Report

Quoted By: >>44258965

Rose > Archie/Maxie > Lysandre > Cyrus > Lusamine > Giovanni > Ghetsis

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 13:58:21 No.44258957 Report

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>>44258935
rose was better

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 14:00:53 No.44258965 Report

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>>44258955
lysandre was the worst he should be at the bottom horrible taste

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 14:29:19 No.44259095 Report

Quoted By: >>44259109 >>44261075 >>44261174

>>44258901
rose at least had a cool "corrupt chairman" vibe, and a good theme, meanwhile you could take one look and lysandre and say "yep, he's the main villain", also his theme was a shitty remix of the grunt theme

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 14:30:00 No.44259097 Report

Quoted By: >>44259358

>>44258847
That's not Chairman Rose.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 14:32:16 No.44259109 Report

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>>44259095
Shill

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 14:53:33 No.44259204 Report

Quoted By: >>44259362 >>44259392

>>44258847
That’s not silly Ghetsis

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 14:54:26 No.44259210 Report

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>>44258847
I bet he's a good kisser.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 15:19:06 No.44259358 Report

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>>44259097
lysandre was worse

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 15:20:08 No.44259362 Report

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>>44259204
Ghetsis was much better

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 15:24:09 No.44259385 Report

Quoted By: >>44259397

>>44258847
No, Rose is.

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Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 15:24:42 No.44259392 Report

Quoted By: >>44261262 >>44261408 >>44262288 >>44262331 >>44262379

>>44259204
Ghetsis is pokeludo incarnate, even more so upon closer examination.
>Egomaniacal cultishly charismatic mastermind cloaked in mystery that leads a region-wide resolution.
>Canonically 6'6"
>Grooms a savant into a false savior as a means of holding power over all of Unova and potentially the entire poke world.
>Attended to by a trio of ninjas whose lives he ambiguously saved at some time in the past.
>Provides debatably the best battle in the series in BW
>After his plans fail the first time, he gets back on his feet and drops all false pretenses, this time operating as the hidden head of a legitimate terrorist group and their flying frigate of icy destruction
>Even after his team is nerfed in BW2 he still provides max power frustration Hydreigon
And the subtle details about him are the best part
>Information in the Abyssal Ruins suggests that he is a descendent of Unova's ancient kings
>He's super smart and an extremely competent trainer, yet has a fucked up arm, eye damage, and defects on the side of his face (whether he was born like this or it's because of his Hydreigon or something is unclear)
>In BW when N is defeated he goes on a raving rant about how he is perfection before taking on the player
Ghetsis is a neurotic guy who believes that he should be great as the descendent of ancient royalty, and he is extremely competent in many respects, but he loathes himself for his obvious physical imperfections. This self-hatred inspires the megalomania that drives him to act like such a psychopath, attempting to take over Unova as a means of proving to himself that yes, he really is perfect. But he fails, twice. It's no wonder we never see him again, Dennis probably offed himself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 15:25:49 No.44259397 Report

Quoted By: >>44259414 >>44262419

>>44259385
Lynsandre was worse

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 15:27:29 No.44259414 Report

Quoted By: >>44259418

>>44259397
Tell me how.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 15:28:14 No.44259418 Report

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>>44259414
he's shit and his plan was retarded his battle sucked and his goal was brought out of nowhere

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 15:28:44 No.44259424 Report

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>>44258847
Bootleg copycat Cyrus

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Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 17:43:30 No.44260534 Report

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>>44258847

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Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 17:51:50 No.44260624 Report

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It’s a close call between Lysander and Rose to be honest.
Rose at least wasn’t being evil for once, just incredibly stupid rich and determined. But that’s not a good villain trait, even if it’s interesting to make a neutral antagonist.
Lysander was just so stupidly generic, unwarranted, whose motivations are beyond retarded, seemed incredibly forced into the game, and it wouldn’t have changed X/Y if they disappeared and AZ was the full focus of the game.
Overall I think rose was the worse villain but only in the sense of what a villain is supposed to be, I liked him way more than I liked Lysander, and that’s really saying something about gen 6.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 18:35:35 No.44261075 Report

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>>44258946
No.

>>44259095
>a cool "corrupt chairman" vibe
What? Isn't the same you could say with Lysandre?
At least Lysandre's plan is more villanous motivations instead of Rose, which is a villain just because he wanted to rush it for no reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 18:43:57 No.44261174 Report

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>>44259095
I could tell Rose was going to be the main villain just by looking at his official art.

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Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 18:51:52 No.44261261 Report

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Giovanni>Ghetsis>Maxie>Archie>Lusamine>Cyrus>Lysandre>Rose

Rose is wasted potential. I like him more than Lysandre, but he is executed so poorly I can't in good faith place him higher.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 18:51:53 No.44261262 Report

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>>44259392
Ghetsis is so based I can't even describe it.
Best villain in all of Pokémon for sure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 19:01:09 No.44261381 Report

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I wouldn't say, just retarded.
He had a nice dynamic where Sycamore understands the guy but didn't think the fucker would actually do it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 19:02:10 No.44261393 Report

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I like the fact that Lysnadere probably bullshitted in USUM about his weapon being in Alola but wanted to scare the player anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 19:03:17 No.44261403 Report

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>>44258847
that’s a weird pic of cyrus

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 19:03:31 No.44261408 Report

Quoted By: >>44262240

>>44259392
>it's a cringy unova tranny paragraph episode
ghetsis is a literal saturday morning cartoon villain.
cope.

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Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 19:03:36 No.44261412 Report

Quoted By: >>44261426

>>44258847
Worst villain yet the only one who succeeded in his goals even if it took 2 games to happen

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 19:04:15 No.44261416 Report

Quoted By: >>44261438 >>44262268 >>44262376

>>44258847
>Giovanni
Good and simple, good design
>Archie
Absolutely moronic motivation good design
>Maxie
Slightly less moronic motivation but worse design
>Cyrus
Terrible and doesn't fit Pokemon at all overrated for because autists identified with him. Ok design though
>Dennis
Great motivation and plan but stupid design. Looks much better in part 2
>Lysander
Absolute worst villain. Ridiculous motivation that doesn't Pokemon at all just anime Hitler with a gay haircut
>Guzma
Not a villain but he's the best crime boss. Design motive and implementation are 10/10 so he needs a mention
>Lusamine
Great design and genuinely menacing although her plan is retarded and ultra version irreparably ruined her
>Rose
Good design and motivation absolutely worst motivation ever

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 19:05:13 No.44261426 Report

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>>44261412

>"I wish there was someone like you to stop me in my dimension"

Jesus fucking christ Lysndere

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 19:06:41 No.44261438 Report

Quoted By: >>44261447

>>44261416
>Good design and motivation absolutely worst motivation ever
I assume one of these is supposed to be plan?

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Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 19:07:46 No.44261447 Report

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>>44261438
Aye his actual plan is of course beyond terrible.

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Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 19:12:56 No.44261485 Report

Quoted By: >>44261519

the most complex villain in any form of media ever.
pokefags will never ever have the IQ required to understand his machiavellian mindset

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 19:14:52 No.44261495 Report

Quoted By: >>44261682

Rose is great is just i think he needed more time where you see his mind slowly descent to his urgency of the league interruption, everything else was great but the jump in urgency is the problem.

Also the Rose Tower romp was still the worst thing to ever be implemented in a Pokemon game, the Oleana fight does not justify how fucking stupid this entire thing was.

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Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 19:17:54 No.44261519 Report

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>>44261485
Archie and Maxie are better Machiavellian villains.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 19:31:18 No.44261673 Report

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>>44258847
He gets inched out by Rose. As horribly written as XY is at least Lysandre stands for something. Rose's head was just fucking empty of all thoughts except his overpowering boner for sports when he made that plan.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 19:32:25 No.44261682 Report

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>>44261495
>descent to his urgency
2000
FUCKING
YEARS

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Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 20:06:45 No.44262086 Report

Quoted By: >>44262252

>>44258857
Did you even play DPPT

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 20:19:32 No.44262240 Report

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>>44261408
This.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 20:20:52 No.44262252 Report

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>>44262086
I literally just beat the e4.
Cope faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 20:22:49 No.44262268 Report

Quoted By: >>44262356

>>44261416
Lusamine didn't really have much of a plan beyond "tear open a hole in space to satisfy my crippling addiction to extradimensional jellyfish neurotoxins" though, did she? As far as Pokemon villains she was pretty unique in that she didn't really have any plans for conquest or domination or even affecting the world beyond satisfying her own desires.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 20:24:19 No.44262288 Report

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>>44259392
Don’t cry Unovavort. Ghetsis is still a silly villain that is just good as a bad cliche and to fill the plot. But its dumb as hell and without him and Plasma the story would have been much MUCH better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 20:26:47 No.44262316 Report

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>>44258857
Cyrus was the best

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Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 20:27:48 No.44262331 Report

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>>44259392
Based.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 20:28:31 No.44262343 Report

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>>44258847
Nah, Magma and Aqua are worse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 20:29:35 No.44262356 Report

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>>44262268
She’s just crazy because of her lost. She’s not herself anymore and I think the only real problem she made was to free UBs all over Alola and the frozen Pokémon collection.

I think she doesn’t have big problems in her plot. She’s just ok.

She could have been better, but she works, much better than the other Pokémon villains... At least better than everyone after gen 2.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 20:31:11 No.44262376 Report

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>>44261416
Lusamine’s plan is not retarded, it’s just crazy... But makes sense.

You forgot to mention how stupid Dennis is telling everyone his “secret plan” everytime he appears on screen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 20:31:16 No.44262379 Report

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>>44259392
I like ghetsis but the whole "make everyone abandon their Pokemon so I will be the only one with a Pokemon" seems a bit too childish

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 20:35:10 No.44262419 Report

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>>44259397
Hard disagree. Rose was definitely worse.

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