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Anonymous Tue 21 Jul 2020 19:19:44 No.44281355 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>44281361 >>44281406 >>44281457 >>44281559 >>44284335 >>44284418 >>44284446 >>44286496 >>44288150 >>44290855 >>44291253 >>44291544 >>44292353 >>44292989 >>44293490 >>44295662

>Return? Too strong!
>Pursuit? Uncounterable!
>HIdden Power? Unpredictable!
>Stealth Rock? I see no problem with this; Ice and Bug types needed a serious nerf, anyways.
What the FUCK happened to competitive Pokemon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jul 2020 19:20:22 No.44281361 Report

Quoted By: >>44281373 >>44282815 >>44297112

>>44281355
smogonfags

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jul 2020 19:21:22 No.44281373 Report

Quoted By: >>44297770

>>44281361
You do realize that basically everyone who plays on comp, smogon or otherwise, thinks that the removal of those moves was total fucking bullshit right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jul 2020 19:23:33 No.44281406 Report

Quoted By: >>44281426

>>44281355
what is this sexy anime grill from

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jul 2020 19:24:23 No.44281416 Report

Quoted By: >>44281505 >>44286630

>return too strong
Shit what about earthquake? Isnt it the fucking same as earthquake?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 21 Jul 2020 19:25:37 No.44281426 Report

Quoted By: >>44281457 >>44281534 >>44291544

>>44281406
Altria Alter (forma de Meido)

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 21 Jul 2020 19:28:48 No.44281457 Report

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>>44281355
>>44281426
Imagine being an alterfag

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jul 2020 19:34:09 No.44281505 Report

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>>44281416
Ask Masuda.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jul 2020 19:37:38 No.44281534 Report

Quoted By: >>44281547

>>44281426
do people actually use altria instead of artoria?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jul 2020 19:39:12 No.44281547 Report

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>>44281534
If they're retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jul 2020 19:40:02 No.44281559 Report

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>>44281355
Most of those come claims from the same fag.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 21 Jul 2020 19:43:11 No.44281588 Report

Quoted By: >>44292769 >>44297116

Normal types need a return replacement. My bro stoutland took a big hit from that

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jul 2020 21:59:56 No.44282815 Report

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>>44281361
>smogonfags removed return, hp and pursuit from the games

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jul 2020 22:21:39 No.44282973 Report

Quoted By: >>44284385 >>44286002

how is return too powerful??

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2020 01:04:25 No.44284335 Report

Quoted By: >>44284369 >>44284419 >>44287200

>>44281355
Return, Pursuit, and Hidden Power weren't removed for balance reasons.
They were removed because making gaemu isu hard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2020 01:07:42 No.44284369 Report

Quoted By: >>44286596

>>44284335
This
Those moves probably broke the dynamax code so they removed them

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2020 01:09:33 No.44284385 Report

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>>44282973
Ask Masuda.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2020 01:13:29 No.44284418 Report

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>>44281355
Return was one of my favorite moves. I’m still pissed off

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2020 01:13:33 No.44284419 Report

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>>44284335
this lmao

imagine being a moepedo and giving the benefit of the doubt to Masuda.

Well, maybe those two things are interconnected.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2020 01:18:11 No.44284446 Report

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>>44281355
The one that really bothers me is secret power, idk why but I love that move. It's fun to have a random effect. Hidden power too, those were both just enjoyable moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2020 04:55:09 No.44286002 Report

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>>44282973
Too powerful for GF to program.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2020 06:25:43 No.44286496 Report

Quoted By: >>44286637 >>44290855

>>44281355
>>Pursuit? Uncounterable
Maybe don't switch pokemon every other time then? Pursuit only has 40 BP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2020 06:46:55 No.44286596 Report

Quoted By: >>44287093

>>44284369
Is it really that spaghetti code? That is literally worse than league. If they could convert every move into a z-move then what is wrong with max moves?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2020 06:48:57 No.44286606 Report

Quoted By: >>44297122

Hidden power could have been removed/reworked in gen 6 because of the fairy type, but for some reason they are doing it now??? Are they changing it for hidden power fairy? Are they making another new type so they need to rework hidden power now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2020 06:53:52 No.44286630 Report

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>>44281416
You don't get it anon, we need that move to keep Landorus strong. You don't want a weak Landorus, do you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2020 06:55:31 No.44286637 Report

Quoted By: >>44287188 >>44290855

>>44286496
>DUDE JUST STAY IN AND GET KILLED LMAO

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2020 08:38:38 No.44287093 Report

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>>44286596
Gamefreak used up the last of the fucks they gave when making gen 7.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2020 09:00:58 No.44287188 Report

Quoted By:

>>44286637
kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2020 09:05:13 No.44287200 Report

Quoted By: >>44287584 >>44295386

>>44284335
>All the moves I noticed getting dexxed have variable typing and/or BP
I never noticed this "coincidence" before but now it makes sense, I guess

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2020 09:57:21 No.44287374 Report

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Yeah Weavile and Volcarona were completely unusable before

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2020 10:53:26 No.44287566 Report

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Stop posting my wife in this shithole

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2020 10:57:49 No.44287584 Report

Quoted By: >>44290314 >>44297135

>>44287200
But most of the new DLC moves have variable power.
My theory is that Pursuit got the axe because they couldn't figure out a way to make it properly interact with the new Teleport mechanics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2020 11:16:04 No.44287679 Report

Quoted By: >>44290778 >>44291407

Altria Alter is the best girl, get fucked Nerokeks

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2020 13:12:05 No.44288150 Report

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>>44281355
Yes mommy

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2020 13:20:03 No.44288170 Report

Quoted By: >>44291683 >>44291725

>Stealth Rock is overpowered

I chuckle every time

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2020 13:50:37 No.44288318 Report

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You're trying to play Pokemon competitively.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2020 16:22:03 No.44289330 Report

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Bump.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2020 18:21:31 No.44290314 Report

Quoted By: >>44297138

>>44287584
Pursuit got axed because of Dynamax.
Since maxed mons go back to normal when you withdraw them, if a maxed mon switches out and gets hit with Pursuit, would it use its maxed HP or its regular HP to calculate damage.
Gamefreak decided to not decide.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2020 18:31:44 No.44290404 Report

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is smogon starting to get this powerful that they're starting to remove moves from the game's code without masuda's knowledge
they cant keep getting away with this

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2020 18:43:35 No.44290509 Report

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>MISTAH MERRIKU!!!! WHY THEYRU STILLL COMPLAINGNU!??

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2020 19:17:48 No.44290778 Report

Quoted By: >>44290993 >>44291205

>>44287679
>alter
>best at anything
Pick one; only one

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2020 19:25:51 No.44290855 Report

Quoted By: >>44293353 >>44297704

>>44286637
>>44286496
>>44281355
Really though pursuit should only work if the opp is switching out and fail otherwise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2020 19:34:17 No.44290927 Report

Quoted By: >>44292266

>>44281457
Look at this fag over there and his terrible taste.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2020 19:41:33 No.44290993 Report

Quoted By: >>44292266

>>44290778
Look at this fag over there and his terrible taste.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2020 20:02:46 No.44291205 Report

Quoted By: >>44292266

>>44290778
Fag

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2020 20:08:43 No.44291253 Report

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>>44281355
Ask Gamefreak lol

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2020 20:33:28 No.44291407 Report

Quoted By: >>44291416 >>44291544 >>44292930

>>44287679
>unironically thinking this
I like alter, but she can't compete

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2020 20:35:13 No.44291416 Report

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>>44291407
He's right, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2020 20:48:00 No.44291544 Report

Quoted By:

>>44281355
>>44281426
>>44291407
No idea what that faggy gacha game is but it has anime qts with big tits so I'm happy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2020 21:04:43 No.44291683 Report

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>>44288170
The only thing overpowered about it is that it's given to non-Rock types. If it was exclusively a Rock type move, it'd be balanced perfectly because Rock types are shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2020 21:10:35 No.44291725 Report

Quoted By: >>44295613

>>44288170
it isn't overpowered, but it does make every flying, ice, bug, and fire type in the game significantly worse by existing

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2020 22:04:38 No.44292235 Report

Quoted By: >>44292266 >>44292305

>>44281457
imagine being an old man fag

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2020 22:08:21 No.44292266 Report

Quoted By: >>44292742

>>44290927
>>44290993
>>44291205
>>44292235
>Unironically thinking an unoriginal edgy palette swap is the best
People like you shouldnt be allowed to have opinions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2020 22:12:28 No.44292305 Report

Quoted By:

>>44292235
t. newfag who didn't even know what fate was until ~3 years ago

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2020 22:17:43 No.44292353 Report

Quoted By: >>44293479

>>44281355
Come play VGC, the format Gamefreak is (trying to) balance around

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2020 22:55:39 No.44292742 Report

Quoted By: >>44292806

>>44292266
It is

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2020 22:59:07 No.44292769 Report

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>>44281588
Normal types shouldn't need to recharge frome Giga Impact or Hyper Beam.

Pic unrelated.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2020 23:03:50 No.44292806 Report

Quoted By: >>44292836 >>44293288 >>44297822

>>44292742
>It is
This is your "brain" on gacha, folks

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2020 23:06:34 No.44292836 Report

Quoted By: >>44292861

>>44292806
Zero >>>> Stay/Night

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2020 23:09:34 No.44292861 Report

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>>44292836
When did I post anything indicating I believed the contrary

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2020 23:16:47 No.44292919 Report

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I love my wife Salter

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2020 23:18:01 No.44292930 Report

Quoted By:

>>44291407
Why does Nero make saltercucks seethe so much

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2020 23:22:06 No.44292966 Report

Quoted By:

>>44281457
My sides

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2020 23:26:08 No.44292989 Report

Quoted By: >>44294439

>>44281355
Hidden Power removal actually made sense. Its type and damage were entirely based on IVs and it encouraged hacking. Return should've stayed though. They should've given every Pokémon that could get it a decent damage Normal move like Body Slam and Double Edge.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jul 2020 00:02:34 No.44293288 Report

Quoted By: >>44293346

>>44292806
is a fact

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jul 2020 00:11:45 No.44293346 Report

Quoted By: >>44293360

>>44293288
Its a fact that gacha makes you retarded and have shit opinions? I agree

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jul 2020 00:12:17 No.44293353 Report

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>>44290855
That would balance it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jul 2020 00:13:01 No.44293360 Report

Quoted By: >>44293365 >>44293445

>>44293346
vanilla saber is boring

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jul 2020 00:13:40 No.44293365 Report

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>>44293360
Its hip to be square

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jul 2020 00:21:31 No.44293445 Report

Quoted By: >>44296905

>>44293360
Vanilla Saber is iconic you fake fan

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jul 2020 00:25:17 No.44293479 Report

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>>44292353
>VGC
>the format where you throw two dices instead of one and the result averages to the mean
or in other words: Gamefreak must reach a whole new level of stupid to break doubles

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jul 2020 00:26:57 No.44293490 Report

Quoted By: >>44294128

>>44281355
Hidden Power is legitimately a poorly designed move and anyone who unironically wants it back is a retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jul 2020 01:44:23 No.44294115 Report

Quoted By: >>44294349

Why the fuck do fatefags argue about which Saber is the best? They're all the fucking same.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 Jul 2020 01:45:25 No.44294128 Report

Quoted By:

>>44293490
t.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jul 2020 02:11:53 No.44294349 Report

Quoted By:

>>44294115
Why the fuck do pokefags argue about which generation is the best? They're all the fucking same.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jul 2020 02:23:53 No.44294439 Report

Quoted By: >>44297147

>>44292989
Only it's type is based on IV since either Gen6 or Gen7. Ever since then it was 70 BP always.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 Jul 2020 04:27:32 No.44295295 Report

Quoted By: >>44296295 >>44297145 >>44297151

How is this magnigger still OU without HP Fire? Are people unironically running it with Body Press and defense EVs? Aren't Volt Switch and Flash Cannon gonna hit like ass if you don't spec into Special Attack?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jul 2020 04:41:36 No.44295386 Report

Quoted By: >>44295625

>>44287200
I don't see a variable in signal beam, osywave or fucking flash. GF was just lazy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jul 2020 05:31:02 No.44295613 Report

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>>44291725
Flying type fucking deserves it and most ice and bug types suck for a plethora of other reasons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jul 2020 05:33:17 No.44295625 Report

Quoted By:

>>44295386
Psywave is variable fucktits.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jul 2020 05:40:50 No.44295662 Report

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>>44281355
i personally never had a problem with any of these moves. idk why people are so butt hurt. never been played swsh meta, but boots sounds like a really cool idea

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jul 2020 08:01:41 No.44296295 Report

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>>44295295
Magnezone still has a real niche by shitting on Corviknight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jul 2020 10:31:48 No.44296905 Report

Quoted By:

>>44293445
cope

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jul 2020 11:41:00 No.44297112 Report

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>>44281361
>smogonfags don't like Return, Pursuit nor HP
You're living under a rock mate

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jul 2020 11:42:02 No.44297116 Report

Quoted By:

>>44281588
Double Edge.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jul 2020 11:44:44 No.44297122 Report

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>>44286606
They invented Terrain Pulse and made it and Weather Ball widely available and think that this is a good replacement

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jul 2020 11:48:03 No.44297135 Report

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>>44287584
That's stupid. Baton Pass already worked fine with it. The negative priority would only make it even easier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jul 2020 11:49:04 No.44297138 Report

Quoted By:

>>44290314
Lmao how is this company still running

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jul 2020 11:50:23 No.44297145 Report

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>>44295295
It's still performing fine. HP Fire isn't really a coverage move anyway. If you're worried about Pokémon like Ferrothorn you should have a Fire or Fighting type anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jul 2020 11:50:25 No.44297147 Report

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>>44294439
No, 60

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jul 2020 11:51:28 No.44297151 Report

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>>44295295
This guy should have access to Flamethrower the same way Genesect has.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jul 2020 13:49:59 No.44297704 Report

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>>44290855
Pursuit should work if the opponent switches and it should have priority against switching moves AND cancel them.

That would provide a way to counter U Turn, Volt Switch, Teleport and Flip Turn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jul 2020 14:05:13 No.44297770 Report

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>>44281373
I’m happy that Hidden Power got removed, dont care about the rest. Get fucked.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jul 2020 14:14:01 No.44297822 Report

Quoted By:

>>44292806
It is

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jul 2020 14:17:40 No.44297846 Report

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I fell out of the pokemon games with Sun and Moon. I just reached around the point where you get to Skull Town and couldn't drum up the interest. So I put it down and stopped playing.

I had an interest in Sword and Shield looking at it, but wasn't sure if I should purchase it. Would this be the game to get me interested again? In the end, I just couldn't Return.

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