>>44305563As someone who actually likes Gen 4, lemme explain:
>DefogIt's only used 4-5 times, and fog is just an annoyance rather than an actual obstacle. Most of the places you use Defog are gated off by other progression flags anyway, such as the need for the Secret Potion, another HM such as Waterfall, or solving a puzzle. Also the move itself is mostly useless in single player and even multiplayer since this was before its hazard/screen-clearing effect was introduced.
>Rock ClimbThere are too many instances where you're required to use it in succession rather than it being one and done. If HMs activated with a single A press and without a long text prompt, this would not be an issue. Also the move itself is shaky with 85% accuracy so nobody would use it over other tried and true Normal attacks such as Return, Body Slam, or even Strength.
>In GeneralCut and Rock Smash are still pitiful moves that one hates to have on their Pokemon, making the HM bloat feel more prominent. Even if Cut was buffed to 60 BP/100% Accuracy and given a type (such as Grass or Steel), it would actually make it worth using throughout the whole game but still being balanced for post-Gardenia when introduced, and in turn make HMs feel less like a liability. Other HMs could use reworks as well.
