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Anonymous Thu 30 Jul 2020 22:59:19 No.44377444 View View Reply Original Report

what went wrong

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jul 2020 23:00:12 No.44377455 Report

Quoted By: >>44377595 >>44381173

>>44377444
69 genders leaves a bad taste in the general public's mouth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jul 2020 23:01:17 No.44377468 Report

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>>44377444
having trannies on the dev team
I highly doubt that GF will ever hire a tranny since anyone with suicical tendencies tend to do it in japan

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jul 2020 23:01:30 No.44377472 Report

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Unlikable designs and mediocre gameplay, digimon did better

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jul 2020 23:02:09 No.44377480 Report

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>>44377444
temtem was even worse than SwSh

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jul 2020 23:02:28 No.44377485 Report

Quoted By: >>44377594

They rushed the monsters.

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Anonymous Thu 30 Jul 2020 23:03:09 No.44377496 Report

Quoted By: >>44379218 >>44382332

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Anonymous Thu 30 Jul 2020 23:06:37 No.44377534 Report

Quoted By: >>44377988

>Let's just copy Pokemon and all the problems people have with Pokemon, but none of the Pokemon, all while improving nothing

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jul 2020 23:08:03 No.44377550 Report

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They did the same but worse instead of the same but better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jul 2020 23:10:40 No.44377573 Report

Quoted By: >>44377625 >>44377993 >>44378218 >>44378461 >>44379969

Same reason Hillary lost the election. The opposition was a complete dumpster fire so a low amount of effort was made and no attempt to hide halfassery on their part, unfortunately the dumpster fire has a lot of money so unless you can piss the fire out you can’t stop it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jul 2020 23:12:14 No.44377594 Report

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>>44377485
Pretty much this.
In order to have a successful collectable monster game you need great varied designs, Temtem doesn't have that, so it's public it's limited to "pokemon fans that would rather not play pokemon".
Everyone here saying is the genders meme or whatever doesn't know that 90% of the people really do not give a fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jul 2020 23:12:16 No.44377595 Report

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>>44377455
>69 genders

wHUT?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jul 2020 23:12:52 No.44377598 Report

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>>44377444
Basically everything. They tried to copy pokemon then claim they were better because they added things like bad online gameplay and extra steps in existing mechanics. The second something claims to be a pokemon killer it lowers its chances of ever being a pokemon killer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jul 2020 23:15:37 No.44377625 Report

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>>44377573
ya hillary was quite the dumpster fire

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jul 2020 23:15:44 No.44377626 Report

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they/them

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Anonymous Thu 30 Jul 2020 23:29:52 No.44377766 Report

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>>44377444
No postgame

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jul 2020 23:34:19 No.44377814 Report

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>>44377444
>Gamefreaks wakeup call
...that they don't have to give a singular fuck about competitors popping up because not only is their fanbase not going anyway, but these other games will run themselves into the ground in due time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jul 2020 23:34:47 No.44377819 Report

Quoted By: >>44377860 >>44378001 >>44378063 >>44378192 >>44379212

>pokemon clone but somehow more retarded
>paid mmo
>monsters look ugly as shit
>released in an unfinished state
>forced tumblr shit
>iirc servers weren’t working on launch
Anything I missed?

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Anonymous Thu 30 Jul 2020 23:39:00 No.44377860 Report

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>>44377819
Bet you it doesn't have any memorable waifus

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jul 2020 23:40:22 No.44377873 Report

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They took too long to add new stuff and breeding is worse than in Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jul 2020 23:54:12 No.44377988 Report

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>>44377444
The idea behind it was noble, but then >>44377534
Eeeeh, might as well must play ORAS at this point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jul 2020 23:54:58 No.44377993 Report

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>>44377573
stop bringing politics into everything you sperg

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Anonymous Thu 30 Jul 2020 23:56:20 No.44378001 Report

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>>44377819
/thread
People actually paid for this shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 Jul 2020 00:02:54 No.44378063 Report

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>>44377819
People getting banned due to the dev team's incompetence, and microtransactions

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 Jul 2020 00:03:50 No.44378071 Report

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>>44377444
Same thing that happens when any indy "rival" to a big name franchise. People only supported it to spite pokemon, but the second pokemon actually came out they focused all their attention on getting mad at that rather then bothering with temtem. If your audience revolves around people hating something else, then the attention will never be fully on you and you will fail

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 Jul 2020 00:04:51 No.44378071,1 Report Delete

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>Online only (one day they will pull the plug and you'll lose all your progress). Also trusting a small team in a MMO
>Unpolished/bad monster design. Pokémon (the creatures) go through many stages of design and redesing to look perfect for everyone. The monsters need to look cool on the games, TV show, and for toy sales
>The art style and oversatured color pallet
>It's pretty much just Pokémon, without Pokémon, and online. You can download PokéMMO for free and play actuall Pokémon games online on you PC and phone.
>Temtem devs ignored the hacking community. Any Pokémon fan wanting a challenge or Pokémon game with better mechanics will just download a ROM hack for free and play on an emulator. The hacking community is not longer what it was back in the Light Platinum days, now there are complete quality hacks available.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 Jul 2020 00:04:51 No.44378082 Report

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>>44377444
>Early access

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 Jul 2020 00:05:17 No.44378089 Report

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>>44377444
Definitely the lowest point of dexit. It was a bad mmo made out of spite against pokemon. It was romhack tier and pretty much everything about it came from pokemon. But what made really it the lowest point of dexit was very desperate SwSh haters trying to shill the game as good.
I said Temtem was going to die when the SwSh DLC came out and I was pretty much correct.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 Jul 2020 00:06:06 No.44378095 Report

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>What went wrong?

It's not fucking pokemon faggot.
Next retarded question.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 Jul 2020 00:14:30 No.44378167 Report

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>>44377444
Awful design for the humans, and the creatures look fugly, generic, and samey. Nothing about the gameplay is better than Pokémon and shit like forced double battles and the breeding system make the game worse

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Anonymous Fri 31 Jul 2020 00:15:17 No.44378174 Report

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You lot thinking temtem was seriously going to challenge Game Freak's market share.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 Jul 2020 00:17:02 No.44378192 Report

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>>44377819
Forgot to add blaming the servers crashing on launch day on a DDoS.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 Jul 2020 00:20:24 No.44378218 Report

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>>44377573
>temtem = hilary
lol no. a better analogy would’ve been pokemon = hilary, i.e., the shitty establishment candidate. temtem was the outsider but they failed to weaponize that in the same way trump did.

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Anonymous Fri 31 Jul 2020 00:50:07 No.44378461 Report

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>>44377573

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 Jul 2020 00:59:04 No.44378535 Report

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gen 5

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 Jul 2020 01:06:06 No.44378589 Report

Quoted By: >>44378632

>>44377444
Welcome to your case study in why fan suggestions should not be considered by game developers. Ultimately, your ideas are actually fucking garbage and would in no way improve the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 Jul 2020 01:11:58 No.44378632 Report

Quoted By: >>44379207

>>44378589
But my suggestion was to make an actually good game. Why didn’t they just follow that advice??

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 Jul 2020 01:34:10 No.44378802 Report

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>>44377444
>indie game

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Anonymous Fri 31 Jul 2020 01:38:13 No.44378827 Report

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>>44377444
You know, at first I was a bit sad that I got Nexomon the week before Temtem came out (mostly because I forgot Temtem was going to come out) and didn't want to buy/play 2 pokeclones at once.

Looking back on it now, I think I got the better end of the deal even if this thing has it's own issues.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 Jul 2020 01:40:01 No.44378840 Report

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>>44377444
Not very good designs and it isnt pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 Jul 2020 01:56:34 No.44378968 Report

Quoted By: >>44378995

>>44377444
the game isn't even officially out, is early access

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 Jul 2020 01:59:16 No.44378995 Report

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>>44378968
Early access might have been a really bad call. Even if it ends up being good, it's not No Man's Sky so TemTem already has a somewhat tainted brand. Best case is that if it got good, it would be to late to recover unless they went above and beyond. There's no reason for me to think it would.

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Anonymous Fri 31 Jul 2020 02:15:07 No.44379090 Report

Quoted By: >>44379104

>>44377444
>New update released a week or 2 ago
>Couldn't even get on the top 100 games chart on Steam
Gee... I wonder why it flopped...

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Anonymous Fri 31 Jul 2020 02:16:40 No.44379101 Report

Quoted By: >>44379249 >>44379724 >>44379946 >>44380252 >>44380385

Coromon > TemTem
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1218210/Coromon/

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 Jul 2020 02:16:59 No.44379104 Report

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>>44379090
Not enough in game porn?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 Jul 2020 02:22:07 No.44379147 Report

Quoted By: >>44379200

>>44377444
Overt sjw shit, bad designs, bad story, ugly general art style, didn't take the fact that most players are casual into consideration

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 Jul 2020 02:28:18 No.44379200 Report

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>>44379147
you forgot
>kept one of the shittiest mechanics in the game (iv)
>breeding is literally just pokemmo
>battles are the same as in pokemon with 0 improvement to them

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 Jul 2020 02:29:18 No.44379207 Report

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>>44378632
clearly we ended up with the bad result of the schrodinger's game development paradox... Maybe next time we should suggest they make a shit game and in not following that advice, they will surely make something good? hmm, but on the off chance they do take the suggestion, it would in fact come out garbage, as my initial hypothesis would have predicted...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 Jul 2020 02:30:04 No.44379212 Report

Quoted By: >>44379824

>>44377819
>Literally zero memorable human characters
The success of Masters has demonstrated how much the fanbase actually cares about the characters themselves instead of just the Pokémon. Game Freak is shit at writing stories but still writes and designs characters well, which helps set them apart from other MTRPGs. They/Them's ugly art style doesn't help things.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 Jul 2020 02:30:55 No.44379218 Report

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>>44377444
Checked. We had this thread last week.
Pretty much this sums it up >>44377496

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 Jul 2020 02:33:02 No.44379228 Report

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>>44377444
(pronoun/preference)

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Anonymous Fri 31 Jul 2020 02:37:15 No.44379249 Report

Quoted By: >>44379342 >>44379971

>>44379101
Yeah but its taking too long to come out. Also is pic related worth its price?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 Jul 2020 02:51:46 No.44379342 Report

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>>44379249
literally not a single monster on that image

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 Jul 2020 03:41:32 No.44379676 Report

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Reminder this somehow managed to make breeding worse

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 Jul 2020 03:43:17 No.44379692 Report

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>>44377444
If you're gonna try to beat GF at their own game, you can't do that by doing every shitty thing they do but even shittier

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 Jul 2020 03:46:22 No.44379724 Report

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>>44379101
Not gonna lie, this actually looks pretty good. Is it just like a pokemon game, or does it have some bullshit that brings it down like Temtem?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 Jul 2020 03:51:42 No.44379777 Report

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Is monster crown gonna be any better? I want to believe but it's releasing in early access and I never understand why people do that, other than they don't want to work on a game anymore and just wan to get what money they can.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 Jul 2020 03:56:55 No.44379817 Report

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>>44377444
dogshit monster designs, which is literally the most important part of a pokemon clone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 Jul 2020 03:57:24 No.44379824 Report

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>>44379212
Success...?

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Anonymous Fri 31 Jul 2020 04:13:41 No.44379946 Report

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>>44379101
Those sprites are nice and all, but couldn't they have picked another name?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 Jul 2020 04:16:25 No.44379969 Report

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>>44377573
anyone who doesn't know that this is exactly what happened must be retarded. I bet you kids literally believe in faggot ass meme magic

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 Jul 2020 04:16:32 No.44379971 Report

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>>44379249
sharting eagle

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 Jul 2020 04:23:51 No.44380024 Report

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>>44377444
Not a complete game, had long wait periods so the people who did play had less content to share and less word spread. If it had released complete with all 6 or 7 islands or whatever, THEN it would have been a serious threat. It didn't, though, so it isn't.

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Anonymous Fri 31 Jul 2020 04:55:43 No.44380252 Report

Quoted By: >>44380264

>>44379101
>those overworld sprites
why did they give them all fiveheads?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 Jul 2020 04:56:49 No.44380264 Report

Quoted By: >>44380291

>>44380252
because SOUL

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 Jul 2020 05:00:04 No.44380291 Report

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>>44380264
huh, i didn't know the soul was stored in the forehead. thanks

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 Jul 2020 05:05:29 No.44380341 Report

Quoted By: >>44381099

Why is vp full of transphobes?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 Jul 2020 05:06:33 No.44380353 Report

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>>44377444
Just like every other new monster collector it never stood a chance. It could've been an amazing game and it still would've been forgotten in a couple of months, because Pokémon isn't popular because it's good.
It struck at the right place at the right time and cemented itself in the public conscious as THE monster collecting adventure franchise. Nothing will ever be a genuine threat to it.

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Anonymous Fri 31 Jul 2020 05:10:44 No.44380385 Report

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>>44379101
>not Disc Creatures
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1083190/Disc_Creatures/

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 Jul 2020 06:53:27 No.44381099 Report

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>>44380341
it's 4chan

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 Jul 2020 06:57:14 No.44381130 Report

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>>44377444
Tried too hard to be Pokemon, instead of something similar to Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 Jul 2020 07:03:02 No.44381173 Report

Quoted By: >>44381217 >>44382615 >>44382636

>>44377455
Waaaah waaah baby boohoo cry waaah

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 Jul 2020 07:03:21 No.44381177 Report

Quoted By: >>44382522

>>44377444
ITT: people saying the game failed because of gender options because they cant realize that most normal people dont care about about that and just thought it was a bad game. It just doesnt improve on anything in pokemon while offering nothing new, to say it failed cause you hate trans people is just laughable

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 Jul 2020 07:04:29 No.44381182 Report

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Why does this thread keep getting posted it gets the same responses every single time

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 Jul 2020 07:10:46 No.44381217 Report

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>>44381173
Seethe faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 Jul 2020 07:16:43 No.44381250 Report

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>>44377444
Reminder that the only people calling something a "Pokemon Killer" are, ironically, Pokemon Shills themselves.
They do this because they know good and well the term is a death knell for anything that dares try to compete with the already-impossible-to-surpass titan of a franchise, yet feel threatened by the idea of something else trying to mooch off of their precious brand (see:identity) for personal gain; All the while seeing zero hypocrisy in exploiting that same brand for their OWN personal gain.
The term "Pokemon Killer" sets standards that can't possibly be met as the media runs wild with it, sets expectations shareholders won't possibly see be delivered, and ultimately sucks the recipient dry until they go defunct.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 Jul 2020 07:17:06 No.44381253 Report

Quoted By: >>44382332

>>44377444
The monster designs manage to be bland and terribly ugly at the same time. I guess it's the art style. Kinda killed my interest and any chance of me playing the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 Jul 2020 07:49:02 No.44381496 Report

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Monsters design are trash
overworld is trash
battle mechanic is boring and worse than pokemon
it's a worse pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 Jul 2020 11:20:56 No.44382332 Report

Quoted By: >>44382572

>>44381253
>I guess it's the art style.
>>44377496
>I guess
The artists can't design for shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 Jul 2020 12:15:31 No.44382522 Report

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>>44381177
BASED, /thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 Jul 2020 12:35:44 No.44382572 Report

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>>44382332
The designs itself are bland, like a low-effort fakemon from tumblr.
But the art style makes them truly ugly. I can't stand that coloration.

These monster collector games like Pokemon rely on good monster design. They must be interesting and memorable. And Temtem created a series of eye cancer.

Things like lackluster content and server problems lower the quality of the game, but that is something that can be fixed.
But monster design absolutely breaks the game, and that's not something you can easily fix.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 Jul 2020 12:45:51 No.44382611 Report

Quoted By: >>44382813 >>44383815

>jannies delete monster crown thread
>keep this
Are jannies retarded?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 Jul 2020 12:48:22 No.44382615 Report

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>>44381173
What a compelling argument. McFucking kill yourself.

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Anonymous Fri 31 Jul 2020 12:49:10 No.44382619 Report

Quoted By: >>44382651

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Anonymous Fri 31 Jul 2020 12:49:42 No.44382622 Report

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>>44377444
>Game's Freak
Niantic owns Pokémon now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 Jul 2020 12:54:24 No.44382636 Report

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>>44381173
this is also the only thin people think about when thinking about your sect. You reap what you sow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 Jul 2020 12:59:44 No.44382651 Report

Quoted By: >>44382675 >>44382701

>>44382619
I know this is bait but you can bet your ass that if SwSh had a public population tracker its graph would look exactly like this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 Jul 2020 13:07:42 No.44382675 Report

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>>44382651
Relative yes, absolute nope.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 Jul 2020 13:09:52 No.44382681 Report

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>>44377444
When 41% of your main demographic has a tendency to literally disappear, you have a problem.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 Jul 2020 13:16:45 No.44382701 Report

Quoted By: >>44383153

>>44382651
SWSH pulled 1,800,000 players 8 months after launch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 Jul 2020 13:40:44 No.44382813 Report

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>>44382611
Because in this thread we shit on temtem. If it had been an appreciation or celebratory thread it would have been trashed by now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 Jul 2020 14:29:57 No.44383153 Report

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>>44382701
>SWSH pulled 1,800,000 players 8 months after launch
We got too cocky, theythembros...

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Monster Crown dev !.QnmN63dbI Fri 31 Jul 2020 16:11:31 No.44383815 Report

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>>44382611

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Anonymous Fri 31 Jul 2020 17:11:27 No.44384226 Report

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>>44383815
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