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Anonymous Sun 02 Aug 2020 15:05:31 No.44400295 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>44400325 >>44401960 >>44402026 >>44404109

Hey /vp/!

I'd like to use my shiny Cursola on my ranked team on cart for this season. The problem is, Cursola is very bad. Now, I'm a karenfag so I know that, I'm fine with it. I'm just looking for some advice on how I can more effectively use this pokemon, no idea what held item/moveset I should be going with. I'll list her relevant moves below, as well as her signiture ability in case you guys weren't aware of it.

Perish Body - When the Pokémon with Perish Body is hit with a contact move, both the attacker and the Pokémon with Perish Body will faint in three turns.

Stat Spread in case you didn't know
HP: 60
Attack:95
Defense:50
Sp Atk:145 (!!)
Sp Def:130
Speed:30

Relevant move options
-Hex
-Curse?
-Strength Sap
-Power Gem
-Mirror Coat
-Giga Drain
-Whirlpool (Can trap someone to die to Perish Body?)
-Psychic
-Shadow Ball
-Burning Jealosy
-Meteor Beam
-Water attacks, Scald, Hydro Pump, Surf

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Aug 2020 15:12:05 No.44400325 Report

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>>44400295

Followup post

I have a few ideas as of now. I can try to trap people with Whirlpool to die from Perish Body. I could utilize that 130 Sp Def with an Assault Vest to make a pretty damn potent special wall, using a combination of Giga Drain and Leech Life to keep Cursola healing itself while able to tank special attacks. I COULD just go with Choice Specs and just nuke something with it's massive Special Attack, though any physical attacker will just outspeed and one shot it so this would only really be useful to kill a special sweeper. Also, Shadow Ball being only 80 BP really stops Cursola from being a heavy damage threat, even though she has the stats for it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Aug 2020 15:13:01 No.44400334 Report

Quoted By: >>44400346

Trick Room

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Aug 2020 15:14:21 No.44400346 Report

Quoted By: >>44400405

>>44400334

I don't have a trick room setter on the rest of my team and I'm not really interested in running Trick Room in general. I can see how useful that would be if that's what you wanted to do, but I don't want to run a trick room team, sorry.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Aug 2020 15:26:02 No.44400405 Report

Quoted By: >>44400509

>>44400346
Enjoy losing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Aug 2020 15:47:32 No.44400509 Report

Quoted By: >>44400970 >>44402070 >>44404109

>>44400405

Trust me I'm quite used to losing considering every team I face is Cinderace, Gyarados, Porygon 2, Dragapult, etc. I find the extra challenge to be fun. My team last season was Blastoise, Whimsicott, Flareon, Vikavolt, Corviknight and Lycanroc Midnight and I still managed to have about a 40% win rate on ranked over like 130 games. I'm pretty proud of that.

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Anonymous Sun 02 Aug 2020 16:55:05 No.44400970 Report

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>>44400509

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Anonymous Sun 02 Aug 2020 17:20:14 No.44401173 Report

Quoted By: >>44401324

Burning Jealousy could be good if a physical attacker weak to it tries to set up on you expecting a switch (do people run SD Scizor currently?)
Power herb Meteor Beam might break some talonflames and give you a bit of momentum?
Curse+Strength sap might break some special mons if they don't have a good switch in?
Otherwise a specs set that switches into special attackers seems best. Just spitballing, didn't know how shit cursola was until looking it up now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Aug 2020 17:39:15 No.44401324 Report

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>>44401173

I think I'll try keeping Burning Jealousy just because fire coverage is good to have, the extra burn is icing on the cake I guess. I am interested in running Curse just because I've never actually used that move before, and somewhat for lack of a better option.

I tried meteor beam, but it's just awful, it's not worth carrying a Power herb for. This Pokemon is way too slow and easy to kill to bother raising it's combat stages, even if I was to get an Ancient Power boost any decent physical attacker could still just outspeed it and one shot it. I do think Assault Vest is the way to go simply because as this Pokemon is already, I have to use it vs Special Attackers. Using it vs anything other than that is just asking to accomplish nothing and be killed. I'm thinking Burning Jealousy, Whirlpool, Shadow Ball, and Earth Power. It's decent coverage and if I'm able to trap a special attacker I could probably beat it. If they switch out to a physical attacker at least I could blast it with a hard hitting Shadow Ball on the switch in and then Perish Body it after it kills Cursola.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 02 Aug 2020 18:57:20 No.44401960 Report

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>>44400295
Hi OP, fellow karenfag here. I know you said you don’t want to use a trick room team but I gotta say it’s the best option. Cursola is a very scary sweeper in Trick Room and I’ve used mine consistently every season since launch. Here is the set I’m using currently

Cursola (F) @ Safety Goggles
Ability: Perish Body
Level: 50
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
Modest Nature
IVs: 5 Spe
- Earth Power
- Shadow Ball
- Power Gem
- Giga Drain

Basically you setup TR and sweep. Safety goggles are my preferred item of choice because you don’t want to get stopped by sleep powder or spore, and it mitigate chip damage from sandstorm which is super helpful when breaking through focus sash. I find that Cursola ability is also pretty useful at times when you have something you can’t kill late-game. Though it’s entirely luck based so you can’t count on it for anything but the occasional assist.

I almost always dynamax Cursola too which will allow it to occasionally survive a physical attack that would otherwise eviscerate it’s terrible physical defense. It’s spdef is so high that you don’t really need any extra investment to make it a special wall. As for trick room setters, Aromatisse, Jellicent and Whimsicott are some of my favs.

Anyway, Cursola is cute and fun to use but outside of trick room, you’re gonna have a bad time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Aug 2020 19:05:41 No.44402026 Report

Quoted By: >>44402059

>>44400295
use it in a trick room team
give her power herb and meteor blast, so you can use it immediately. sounds stupid but it surprises lots of people with a rock move, and you boost her attack to incredibly high levels even just with a +1

Cursola @ Power Herb
Ability: Perish Body
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
Quiet Nature
IVs: 0 Atk / 0 Spe
- Shadow Ball
- Meteor Beam
- Earth Power / Giga Drain
- Protect / Reflect

you can also use this meme moveset, but it's better for singles instead of doubles. send it against a dark or ghost physical attack, use endure, activate weakness policy and weak armor, then attack.

Cursola @ Weakness Policy
Ability: Weak Armor
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Endure
- Shadow Ball
- Earth Power
- Ice Beam / Giga Drain

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Aug 2020 19:11:40 No.44402059 Report

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>>44402026
Maybe not. With psychic terrain to prevent sucker punch and trick room being easier to set up in doubles, you might want to consider using it in vgc.

pair it with indeedee to set up trick room, and maybe have a comfey to heal it. give it weakness policy and dmax immediately to start going to town.

good luck anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Aug 2020 19:12:48 No.44402070 Report

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>>44400509
>40% win rate
555-come-on-now
trick room is a mandatory move to have, even if you don't want to use a trick room team, because otherwise you will be defenseless against a trick room team.
that way you can remove it when you want, or even set it up yourself and sweep with a slow pokemon, to surprise an opponent that doesn't realize you have a trick room combo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Aug 2020 21:49:05 No.44403385 Report

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just use corsola-g with eviolite

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Aug 2020 23:08:08 No.44404109 Report

Quoted By: >>44404134

>>44400295
Assuming from this post >>44400509 you're competing in Singles, a suicide lead might be an interesting idea:

Cursola @ Focus Sash
Ability: Perish Body
Level: 50
EVs: 12 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 236 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Stealth Rock
- Curse
- Shadow Ball
- Icy Wind/Trick Room

Rocks aren't as big in 3v3 as they are in OU, but they're a valid option for breaking sashes and are handy on an offensive team for picking up KOs you might not have picked up otherwise. You can use Curse to get the jump on walls and switch something in safely when you die. Icy Wind or Trick Room are used for speed control to enable your Dynamaxer or something that's normally outsped by a lot of top 30 threats to come in and revenge kill, or sweep. It's really up to you which one you use - since a lot of people like to lead with their Dynamax sweeper, Trick Room might be more immediately beneficial when used with mons that don't need it to be functional, but appreciate going first, like P2, Marowak, Dracozolt, and so on. Max Airstream sweepers become more manageable that way. Icy Wind with a very fast and strong revenge killer can also handle them. 236 Speed EVs allow you to outspeed everything up to Corviknight provided they have no speed investment. If you use TR you can just go Modest 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 Spe to outspeed Snorlax and Corsola outside of TR. Cursola is so slow that going Quiet is pretty much pointless.
Normal/Ghost cores are extremely good in 3v3, so if you've got a particular favourite that can take advantage of the opportunities that Cursola can create, I'd use it.

t. Someone who plays almost exclusively 3v3 and wanted to throw in his two cents

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Aug 2020 23:10:38 No.44404134 Report

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>>44404109

Thanks, I'm still here, and I'm going to try this. Leading with Stealth Rock or Curse sounds like a good idea to me.

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