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Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 01:47:28 No.44415724 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>44415732 >>44415810 >>44415825 >>44417491 >>44418837

Give me one good argument why stealth rocks should even exist.
>Superior to Spikes, do more damage, do super effective damage, only need to be set once
>Mandatory on most teams

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 01:49:03 No.44415732 Report

Quoted By: >>44415739 >>44415817

>>44415724
We need something to punish all switching or else you end up with the current HDB gen 8 shit show.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 01:49:50 No.44415739 Report

Quoted By: >>44415746 >>44417180

>>44415732
Make more moves like Pursuit and give them wide distribution via TM. Bam, fixed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 01:50:42 No.44415746 Report

Quoted By: >>44415750 >>44415758

>>44415739
>trapping cancer
fuck off retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 01:50:42 No.44415747 Report

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So people stop using Charizard like autists.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 01:51:12 No.44415750 Report

Quoted By: >>44415756 >>44415944

>>44415746
>cancer
Stay mad then. I'll keep using my boots and dance on your worthless rocks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 01:51:40 No.44415756 Report

Quoted By: >>44415769

>>44415750
based stallchad

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 01:51:53 No.44415758 Report

Quoted By: >>44415776

>>44415746
>We need to punish switching
>What about this move that literally punishes switching
>NOOOOOO NOT LIKE THAT
Actually kill yourself

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 01:53:11 No.44415769 Report

Quoted By: >>44415775 >>44415781 >>44415783

>>44415756
I actually play HO

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 01:53:44 No.44415775 Report

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>>44415769
EVEN MORE BASED

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 01:53:44 No.44415776 Report

Quoted By: >>44415802

>>44415758
>We need to punish switching
>What about this move that literally punishes switching
>NOOOOOO NOT LIKE THAT
Unironically yes, not like that.
We need chip damage to add an opportunity cost to switching rather than a million pursuit clones that just delete Pokemon after one switch in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 01:54:21 No.44415781 Report

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>>44415769
cringe cheese faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 01:54:46 No.44415783 Report

Quoted By: >>44415802

>>44415769
>HO
>boots

Epic falseflag

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 01:57:07 No.44415802 Report

Quoted By: >>44415842 >>44415845

>>44415776
Well boots aren't leaving fuccboi so you need something besides a hazard. Got any better ideas?
>>44415783
;^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 01:58:09 No.44415810 Report

Quoted By: >>44415835

>>44415724
>Stealth rocks are automatically set at the start of every battle
Does the game improve?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 01:59:14 No.44415817 Report

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>>44415732
>You can now only switch up to ten times in one match
There, it's fixed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 02:00:36 No.44415825 Report

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>>44415724
Nobody uses them in the format they actually care about

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 02:01:42 No.44415835 Report

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>>44415810
yes

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 02:01:47 No.44415837 Report

Quoted By: >>44415862 >>44416055

>recalled mon now counts as fainted, anime-style
Problem fucking solved.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 02:02:43 No.44415842 Report

Quoted By: >>44415869

>>44415802
>Well boots aren't leaving
Pursuit left.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 02:03:28 No.44415845 Report

Quoted By: >>44415869

>>44415802
>Got any better ideas?
Yes, ban the fucking boots.
Now that big tourneyfags like BKC are supporting a boots ban it's got a chance of happening.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 02:05:32 No.44415862 Report

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>>44415837
That has never been the case in the anime. Mons get withdrawn after they faint and are unable to battle, but switching has always been a thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 02:06:23 No.44415869 Report

Quoted By: >>44415946

>>44415842
Zero hold items got cut.
>>44415845
>ban the fucking boots
Hahaha nahhhhh not gonna happen bro.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 02:15:01 No.44415944 Report

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>>44415750
>Boots
Don’t you mean Charizard’s Chastity Belt

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 02:15:18 No.44415946 Report

Quoted By: >>44415967 >>44415976 >>44417338

>>44415869
>Zero hold items got cut.
Gems. Plates. Hell, Mega Stones and Z Crystals were also items.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 02:17:44 No.44415967 Report

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>>44415946
Yeah but imagine all the marketing they can do when they announce they're bringing back ( ( F E A T U R E ) )

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 02:18:56 No.44415976 Report

Quoted By: >>44416031

>>44415946
>Gems.
These got cut because they were literally z crystals.
>Plates.
Arceus got cut, why would the plates stay?
>Hell, Mega Stones and Z Crystals
From cut mechanics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 02:25:55 No.44416031 Report

Quoted By: >>44416065

>>44415976
>Gems
Gems were different from Z crystals because you could use one on each mon in a single battle, don't remove secondary effects, don't give moves perfect accuracy, and are used automatically. Also, why wouldn't they bring them back after cutting Z moves if they were literally just Z crystals?
>Plates
The Pixie Plate is still around, and there's still a use for multiple items with the same effect because of item clause.
>Mega Stones and Z Crystals
True. Hence the hell. Since I was just throwing that in as a technicality.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 02:28:56 No.44416055 Report

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>>44415837
I've always wanted that to be a real mode.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 02:30:08 No.44416065 Report

Quoted By: >>44416160

>>44416031
>The Pixie Plate is still around
That's because fairy doesn't have a hold item such as mystic water I believe. Throwing the plate in was easier than making one I guess, GF is lazy after all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 02:44:41 No.44416160 Report

Quoted By: >>44416168 >>44416245

>>44416065
What would a good fairy type hold item be?
>Moon Mirror
>Cute Ribbon
>Antique Doll

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 02:45:46 No.44416168 Report

Quoted By: >>44416213 >>44416236

>>44416160
>Heart Plug

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 02:51:18 No.44416213 Report

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>>44416168
>When a pokemon holds this item, nobody knows where they put it. It's almost as mysterious as pokemon eggs!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 02:54:47 No.44416236 Report

Quoted By: >>44416250

>>44416168
Before I clicked on your image, I thought that was a badass Dune reference

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 02:56:15 No.44416245 Report

Quoted By:

>>44416160
>Wands
>Wings
>Floaty Crowny Things

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 02:56:48 No.44416250 Report

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>>44416236
It was ;)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 05:35:30 No.44417180 Report

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>>44415739
Well, Pursuit got snapped out of existence but even if it didn't, the cancerous fatmons who are the reason why pebbles are necessary are bulky enough to not really give a fuck.
Pebbles apply consistent pressure and you can also use moves to hit the incoming Pokemon, which is supplemented by the pebbles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 06:03:33 No.44417338 Report

Quoted By:

>>44415946
No they didn't, they're all in the game even if they're not obtainable

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 06:20:36 No.44417428 Report

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make rock and ice pokemon immune to stealth rocks

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 06:39:02 No.44417491 Report

Quoted By: >>44417881

>>44415724
Flying types are immune to spikes.
Stealth rocks is flawed, but having a hazard that nothing is immune to is important.
I'd personally change it so rocks does 12.5% to all mons who aren't flying-type or levitating, and 33.3% to all mons who are flying or levitating.
I know 33% sounds like a lot, but 3 layers of spikes + stealth rocks is 25% + 12.5%, adding up to 37.5% plus a vulnerability to toxic spikes. It's more than a fair tradeoff.
Spikes should also be distributed way more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 08:20:07 No.44417881 Report

Quoted By: >>44418016

>>44417491
i dont mind a universal hazard but i do mind any form of bias from such a hazzard. unironically dont do my boys dirty over their typing. i run boots on my offensive volcarona because i dont want to deal with it losing half its health bar juat because the opponent clicked a button with a sturdy lead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 08:57:44 No.44418016 Report

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>>44417881
Like I said, it's flawed.
If it did neutral damage but still had a way to make up for spike-immune mons, it'd be much better.
As it stands, it's the best way to deal with the absolute cancer and AIDS that are stall and pivot teams.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 12:48:23 No.44418837 Report

Quoted By: >>44419372

>>44415724
Cope charetard, your obese fake dragon will never be good

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 14:25:30 No.44419372 Report

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>>44418837
Charizard is ou viable right now in spite of rocks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 15:46:28 No.44419896 Report

Quoted By: >>44420538

Who even uses rocks or boots? I dont think I have seen them in over 100 games played.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 17:08:49 No.44420538 Report

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>>44419896
You could have just posted "fanfic meta" to get it over with. Doubt you even play VGC in the first place.

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