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Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 03:58:40 No.44416666 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>44416674 >>44416717 >>44418021

RU has banned Reuniclus, Lucario, and Sirfetch'd
https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/np-ru-stage-2-lights-out-rubl-drops-see-post-73.3666733/page-3#post-8554561

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 04:00:27 No.44416674 Report

Quoted By: >>44416816 >>44418011

>>44416666
Wait sirfetch'd, why?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 04:02:56 No.44416700 Report

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>Lucario was in RU
Powercreep is one Hell of a drug

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 04:05:56 No.44416717 Report

Quoted By: >>44416721

>>44416666
What the hell was Reuniclus doing down there?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 04:07:07 No.44416721 Report

Quoted By: >>44416764 >>44416798 >>44416822

>>44416717
Reuniclus is a weird dude. Last gen, it was RUBL, but was far more viable in OU than UU

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 04:13:47 No.44416764 Report

Quoted By: >>44416989

>>44416721
>it was OU by usage in high ladder for almost the entire gen
>low elo shitters never caught on
still hilarious

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 04:18:16 No.44416798 Report

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>>44416721
Reuniclus was some bullshit in Gen 7 OU
>click Acid Armor/Calm Mind
>like 40% of ladder teams just cannot break it without a crit at that point
>with Toxic Spike support it beats Tyranitar and Greninja 1v1 even with Psychic being it's only offensive move

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 04:21:34 No.44416816 Report

Quoted By: >>44416924

>>44416674
It was one of the most broken mons in the tier for the short amount of time it was legal, scrappy Close Combat from 135 base attack is a nuke and has Brave Bird for Vileplume, Poison Jab for Fairies, and First Impression for priority.
Is also faster than Machamp so it was just as good at killing defensive teams while also being good at destroying bulky offense. It has nice bulk too.
Everytime it hits the field it kill something, just abuse slow u-turn/flip turn from Dragalge or Vaporeon so it has an easy time killing everything.
And if you dont like CB just use Leek and get lucky crits thanks to +2 chance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 04:22:42 No.44416822 Report

Quoted By: >>44416915

>>44416721
Is a Toxapex counter, so it does better in tiers with Toxapex, no one in UU care about checking Tentacruel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 04:40:22 No.44416915 Report

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>>44416822
That's not the only reason it's better in OU.
Reuniclus with max physdef investment is like one of three Pokemon that actually wall Mega Medicham.
It also takes advantage of all the common psychic resists. Heatran, AV Magearna, Jirachi, Celesteela, Ferrothorn, they all get set up on.
Meanwhile in UU Scizor can Swords Dance alongside Reuniclus going for Acid Armor, and Latias can Calm Mind alongside it and win eventually. And Specs Hydriegon can break through a +1 Reuniclus while pre transformation Ash Greninja can't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 04:41:56 No.44416924 Report

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>>44416816
I forgot dragalge got flip turn to make slow bulky cores relevant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 04:54:17 No.44416989 Report

Quoted By: >>44417018 >>44417038

>>44416764
It's actually kinda weird that the highest ladder isn't what's taken into account.
If it was, Quagsire, Seismitoad, Skarmory, and Galarian Weezing would all be OU
And Magnezone, Alakazam, Torkoal, Mew, Scizor, Alolan Marowak, and Kingdra wouldn't be.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 04:59:09 No.44417018 Report

Quoted By: >>44417033

>>44416989
The highest portion of the ladder has too small a sample size to reliably pull stats from.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 05:03:56 No.44417033 Report

Quoted By: >>44417054 >>44417172

>>44417018
But they'd surely be a more accurate way of telling which mons are good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 05:04:37 No.44417038 Report

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>>44416989
There are reason for it, they may not be the best this isn't the place for the discussion.
If they use the high ladder as the only source then you have the problem of very few people being the one deciding what is OU as usually the high ladder is a few guys and their alts.
And there is fact than this whole tier system is to give a chance to shyne to as many mons as possible, so allowing common mons from a high tier to one bellow doesn't make much sense. As you could end with two tiers using similar mons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 05:06:26 No.44417054 Report

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>>44417033
Yeah but they are usage based tiers, and you need a big sample size for that.
The viability ranking takes care of what is good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 05:34:27 No.44417172 Report

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>>44417033
>they'd surely be a more accurate way of telling which mons are good.
Within the top 1% of the ladder, sure.
But as a representation of the meta as a whole, no.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 08:56:15 No.44418011 Report

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>>44416674
Sirfetch'd is a fucking monster in the lower tiers.
Shit, it's a functional wallbreaker in OU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 08:59:10 No.44418021 Report

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>>44416666
>fanfic meta

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