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>>44431547
so can we get stat buffs again like in sun & moon? some pokemon are just straight fucked no matter what movepool buffs they get because of their garbage stats. preferably some buffs to those to most of those SLOW FRAIL MIXED ATTACKERS would be nice

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Aug 2020 21:12:41 No.44433169 Report

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>>44431547
>Shame megas are kill
Are you 5?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Aug 2020 21:17:21 No.44433225 Report

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>>44432775
Because they're coming to pokemon go, which is the new main series. The old main series is now a spinoff of go that sticks around to make more new mons for go.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Aug 2020 21:21:30 No.44433270 Report

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>>44432970
next gen anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Aug 2020 21:46:38 No.44433578 Report

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>>44432013
>Implying mista masuda won't sell them in an upcoming DLC
lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Aug 2020 21:48:14 No.44433593 Report

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>>44431547
>usable flying STAB for my main man SD gliscor
based.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Aug 2020 21:49:48 No.44433608 Report

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>>44431547
>>44431554
>>44432013
The datamine implied that they're all there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Aug 2020 21:54:17 No.44433649 Report

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>>44431547
salamence got reliable flying stab and typholosion and pyroar got reliable coverage moves holy shit. dual stab priority cacturne sounds lit too
xurkitree and most of the tapus are probably gonna be banned once released

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Aug 2020 21:54:40 No.44433658 Report

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>>44433608
they don't delete stuff from the code retard
Why would they actively take the time to not only get the models and animations for megas done, 40some Pokémon, and also figure out how to code it in a way that doesn't interfere with dynamax, when they really don't need to to make this shit sell? They're not coming back, just deal with it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Aug 2020 21:57:01 No.44433686 Report

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>>44432872
>I don't know what a strawman is: the post

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Aug 2020 22:02:07 No.44433726 Report

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>>44433658
>Why would they actively take the time to not only get the models and animations for megas done
They can just recycle the models and animations like they did for every other mon in SwSh.
>figure out how to code it in a way that doesn't interfere with dynamax
How would it interfere with dynamax?
>when they really don't need to to make this shit sell
They didn't need to have Isle of Armor and Crown Tundra to make this shit sell, but they did it anyway. A DLC with the megas in it would be more money for GF for relatively little effort.

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Anonymous Wed 05 Aug 2020 22:03:44 No.44433736 Report

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>>44433726
>They can just recycle the models and animations
Yeah, that worked out so well for the hackers who tried it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Aug 2020 22:06:24 No.44433759 Report

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>>44433593
Why would you use a 120 BP move (80 BP + STAB) that can miss over Facade, a reliable 140 BP move? Yes, Flying is better offensively but it's not like Gliscor needs that because the stuff that walls EQ + Facade like Corviknight for the most part also walls Dual Wingbeat.

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Anonymous Wed 05 Aug 2020 22:08:57 No.44433789 Report

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>>44431547
>Omastar gets Meteor Beam
That’s neat, I guess

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Anonymous Wed 05 Aug 2020 22:12:03 No.44433822 Report

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>>44432842
Why is it always libre? Pokken, smash, etc... TOSS POPSTAR A BONE YOU FUCKS

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Aug 2020 22:13:32 No.44433839 Report

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>>44433759
Hits Tangrowth

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Aug 2020 22:16:24 No.44433874 Report

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>>44431547
> it can finally hit Dark types now
It already learn something for hit Dark types... Dazzling Gleam

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Aug 2020 22:19:07 No.44433912 Report

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>>44433839
Without HP Ice Tangrowth can't do much back to Gliscor anyway so you can simply boost to +6. Also Facade only makes contact once so you don't take Rocky Helmet damage twice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Aug 2020 22:20:31 No.44433926 Report

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>>44433912
Giga Drain prevents Gliscor from Roosting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Aug 2020 22:23:58 No.44433957 Report

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>>44433759
focus sash

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Aug 2020 22:33:48 No.44434064 Report

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>>44433926
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7ou-1163938812

You don't really need to Roost, assuming you SD up on the Tangrowth switch. Yeah, you'll be left at lower health but still.

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Anonymous Wed 05 Aug 2020 22:39:41 No.44434134 Report

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>>44433874
>Special Banette

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Aug 2020 22:42:47 No.44434176 Report

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>>44433957
Name a Pokemon that both viably runs Focus Sash, is able to keep Focus Sash intact by the time Gliscor is setting up and also beats it 1v1.

Lead Araquanid I guess but you're not leading with your Gliscor against a Sticky Web Araquanid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Aug 2020 22:44:05 No.44434194 Report

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>>44433736
Make megas and dynameme mutually exclusive.
There. Easy fix.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Aug 2020 22:47:21 No.44434235 Report

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>>44434194
Don't include megas. There. Easier fix.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Aug 2020 22:48:21 No.44434246 Report

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>>44434235
It's literally free money sitting right there.
You think Gamefreak's not gonna snatch that up?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Aug 2020 00:01:30 No.44435020 Report

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>>44431795
What would happen if Charizard, Gengar, Venusaur, or Blastoise mega evolved and gigantamaxed at the same time?
Would one override the other, or would they get a special new form?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Aug 2020 00:02:57 No.44435038 Report

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>>44433608
It's HOME data, not the game's date.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Aug 2020 00:03:29 No.44435052 Report

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>>44434246
>its free money to make sure 40 models are working properly + animations, plus potential dynamax forms and figuring how to make dynamax and megas work with each other
Haha

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Aug 2020 01:34:52 No.44435883 Report

Quoted By: >>44437621

>>44435052
>make sure 40 models are working properly + animations
Already working. Fans managed to get them working outside of custom Dynamax animations.
>plus potential dynamax forms and figuring how to make dynamax and megas work with each other
Make them mutually exclusive. Make it so a mon holding a mega stone can't dynamax.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Aug 2020 01:37:29 No.44435910 Report

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>>44433874
Post ELO

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 06 Aug 2020 02:06:47 No.44436181 Report

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>>44433874
>bro just use a special move bro

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Aug 2020 02:08:18 No.44436190 Report

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>>44436181
83 Sp. Atk is plenty usable you retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Aug 2020 02:13:39 No.44436232 Report

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>>44436190
Not really. How many viable offensive mons have an attacking stat of 83 or less that they actually use?
And follow up question, how many of them are as slow and frail as Banette?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Aug 2020 02:26:52 No.44436345 Report

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>>44436190
>No Nasty Plot
>No priority moves
>Is frail as fuck so Calm Mind won't even save it from hard hitting special attackers
You can say that but special attacking Banette is practically unusable compared to physical

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Aug 2020 04:35:46 No.44437257 Report

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>>44436345
>constantly plotting a nasty revenge against the kid that abandoned it
>can't learn nasty plot
I will never understand Gamefreak.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Aug 2020 05:12:38 No.44437464 Report

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>>44436232
>Not really
Yes really. Incineroar and Colossal run special attacks off of 80 SpA. Stop being shit at the game.

>>44436345
It doesn’t get Swords Dance either and your other two points have nothing to do with running special attacks. I have no idea what your point is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Aug 2020 05:25:59 No.44437568 Report

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>>44437464
Incineroar rarely ever uses special attacks, and Coalossal is shit without a weakness policy activated.
And let me just reiterate that neither are as slow and frail as Banette.

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Anonymous Thu 06 Aug 2020 05:29:59 No.44437602 Report

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>>44437568
>Incineroar rarely ever uses special attacks
Why does no one on /vp/ play the fucking game the board is about?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Aug 2020 05:32:31 No.44437621 Report

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>>44435883
>Fans managed to get them working
They would still have to pay real workers to make them work, which costs money.

>>44435883
>Implying Game Freak wants to balance two different generation gimmicks against each other again

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Aug 2020 05:37:46 No.44437662 Report

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>>44437602
>move used to lower foe’s special attack which is key in VGC
>move to punish dynamax and setup mons
>both get stab
>at all equivalent to a generic coverage move to be used on a singles Banette set with literally no side effect whatsoever
4/10 made me reply

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Aug 2020 05:40:53 No.44437682 Report

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>>44437662
>a move that runs off of the pokemon’s lower attack stat can still be worth running if it does something useful LIKE HITTING DARK TYPES FOR MORE DAMAGE
congrats anon! You learned something today! Maybe now you’ll be slightly less shit at the game!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Aug 2020 05:49:57 No.44437762 Report

Quoted By: >>44445227

>>44431547
>Swampert didn't get Flip Turn
fuck, I was really hoping for that
>Grass Glide Torterra
dank af
>Steel Roller Heatran
that's cool

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Aug 2020 07:43:08 No.44438446 Report

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>>44437682
Neither Snarl nor Burning Jealousy are run for their damage. They're run for their secondary effect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Aug 2020 14:41:46 No.44440626 Report

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bump

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Aug 2020 14:45:00 No.44440659 Report

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Blacephelon getting moves is cool. Strange it doesn't get Poltergeist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Aug 2020 14:48:18 No.44440688 Report

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>>44438446
>they're run to do something useful
...like hitting dark types for more damage?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Aug 2020 15:05:06 No.44440808 Report

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>>44440688
you absolutely dense motherfucker. stop being so stubborn and admit you're wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Aug 2020 15:10:10 No.44440847 Report

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>>44440688
Too bad it's not KOing most Dark types
If it was Ghost/Fairy Dazzling Gleam would at least have the STAB boost

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Aug 2020 15:11:15 No.44440856 Report

Quoted By: >>44440868 >>44440972

>>44440808
>no argument
lol

>>44440847
>Too bad it's not KOing most Dark types
If you don't run Dazzling Gleam, yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Aug 2020 15:12:30 No.44440868 Report

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>>44440856
i don't need an argument, you're clearly in the wrong here and are just acting retarded to bait out replies. i'm just calling you out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Aug 2020 15:13:50 No.44440876 Report

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>>44436190
maybe if Dazzling Gleam had Fire Blast's base power it would be

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Aug 2020 15:24:36 No.44440972 Report

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>>44440856
>If you don't run Dazzling Gleam, yes.
80 BP is not even that high and Banette's special attack is nothing to write home about

Special attacking Banette is unusable trash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Aug 2020 19:23:52 No.44443160 Report

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>>44440688
Yeah.
If Banette's Dazzling Gleam was able to do that, it would be useful
Unfortunately, it can't do that because of Banette's abysmal special attack.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Aug 2020 19:31:34 No.44443229 Report

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>>44440688
No you fucking brainlet. Snarl lowers special attack to go along with Intimidate's attack drop, and Burning Jealousy is used to punish Max moves by burning both opponents. Not only are neither used as coverage, neither are viable in singles, the meta that Banette has a chance of not being dead weight in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Aug 2020 20:28:06 No.44443903 Report

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>>44440688
>252 SpA Banette Dazzling Gleam vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Hydreigon: 284-336 (87.3 - 103.3%) -- 18.8% chance to OHKO
Wow! All Banette has to do is invest 252 EV's into SpAtk and it can MAYBE OHKO an uninvested Hydreigon, which has a 4x weakness to fairy.
It sure is a good thing you memorized your type matchups. You're gonna be the very best like no one ever was some day.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Aug 2020 21:53:34 No.44445227 Report

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>>44437762
>Steel Roller Heatran
Holy shit, is the hellfrog of healthy meta gonna stop the Tapu menace?

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