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Anonymous Fri 14 Aug 2020 17:43:22 No.44517945 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>44517950 >>44517966 >>44517983 >>44517994 >>44517996 >>44518001 >>44518006 >>44518021 >>44518034 >>44518525 >>44520595 >>44521634 >>44523911

Life orb needs a nerf
need to buff items like miracle seed charcoal or elemental plates

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 14 Aug 2020 17:44:06 No.44517950 Report

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>>44517945

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Aug 2020 17:44:25 No.44517955 Report

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No.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Aug 2020 17:46:16 No.44517966 Report

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>>44517945
Life orb is kinda broken but so are other items.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Aug 2020 17:49:45 No.44517983 Report

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>>44517945
>Lets kill HO

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Aug 2020 17:50:27 No.44517985 Report

Quoted By: >>44523872

Attack ten times and die is broken?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Aug 2020 17:51:56 No.44517994 Report

Quoted By: >>44518021

>>44517945
I remembered having an idea some time ago for items like charcoal where I took inspiration from some Yugioh cards and giving them additional effects based on the holders original type matching the respective items on top of the boost so they’d serve as side grades to the life orb.

For example the charcoal would have the damage to fire type moves but the holder is also a fire type, it boosts/adds the chance of burn from their attacks moves by 10% or the Poison barb having the boost to poison type moves but also if the Pokémon’s original type is poison, then the Pokemon’s attacking moves that poisons deals bad poison instead

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Aug 2020 17:52:28 No.44517996 Report

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>>44517945
>miracle seed charcoal or elemental plates
last i remember those items didnt shred your hp

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Aug 2020 17:53:12 No.44518001 Report

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>>44517945
Life Orb is already very niche

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Aug 2020 17:53:38 No.44518006 Report

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>>44517945
Death orb is already trash

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Aug 2020 17:54:49 No.44518021 Report

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>>44517945
I agree the plate like items need a buff, but they don't need to nerf LO. A handful of pokemon already forgo LO for the former because they don't want to take recoil.

>>44517994
Cool, but pretty broken. Maybe they just increase the boost from 1.2->1.25 if the attack is stab.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Aug 2020 17:57:05 No.44518034 Report

Quoted By: >>44518530 >>44518768 >>44521708

>>44517945
>Stall is already significantly better than offense
>REEEEEE NERF OFFENSE
How about we just fucking buff them all?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Aug 2020 17:58:44 No.44518048 Report

Quoted By: >>44518503 >>44518548

They should buff all the offensive items like LO, plates and choices, not like they are popular on vgc where the main sweeper use weakness policy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Aug 2020 18:59:36 No.44518503 Report

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>>44518048
LO is a very common item in VGC. Sometimes you don't have a way to setup WP and having a backup option to deal high damage is key. Also LO can give your team turn one burst options without having to worry about setup, which sometimes can make or break a game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Aug 2020 19:02:49 No.44518525 Report

Quoted By: >>44518888

>>44517945
The nerf is called item limit rule.
Even fucking GF is smart enough to make so you can't have multiple copies of one item because otherwise every pokémon has either life orb or leftovers.
No idea why Smogon doesn't have this clause.
Stall would be dead extra dead the second you limit lefties.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Aug 2020 19:03:44 No.44518530 Report

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>>44518034
>>Stall is already significantly better than offense
lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Aug 2020 19:05:57 No.44518548 Report

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>>44518048
LO is in almost every single VGC team right now, it's vital to many matchups.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Aug 2020 19:35:26 No.44518768 Report

Quoted By: >>44520459

>>44518034
Stall is trash... unless you are talking about the fanfic meta.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Aug 2020 19:52:28 No.44518888 Report

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>>44518525
no one is running two life orbs lol
you'll be lucky to even see just one being used
the only item that you're likely to see multiple of is the broken boots as even leftovers have fallen out of favor

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Aug 2020 23:08:24 No.44520459 Report

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>>44518768
Stall is trash even in the fanfic meta.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Aug 2020 23:26:56 No.44520595 Report

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>>44517945
LO isn't bad but probably at the worst it's ever been right now, doesn't need a nerf.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Aug 2020 01:14:38 No.44521634 Report

Quoted By: >>44522112

>>44517945
I agree with buffing the elemental plates and stuff like miracle seed but life orb really doesn’t need a nerf, what does need a nerf is shit like dynamax weakness policy, that shit is far more bs than life orb ever was.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Aug 2020 01:21:55 No.44521701 Report

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>>44518530
Stall isn't better than offense.
It's just the best stallbreakers keep getting banned and most people don't have the patience to actually beat stallmons and simply forfeit before things devolve into 300 turn snoozefests.
Naturally this is going to create some kind of bias where it looks like the most skilled players use stall teams but in reality it is simply a result of their boring their opponents out of the top spots

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Aug 2020 01:22:56 No.44521708 Report

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>>44521701
meant for >>44518034 whoops

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Aug 2020 01:46:18 No.44521892 Report

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Life orb should give a higher buff the lower the Base HP is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Aug 2020 02:18:42 No.44522112 Report

Quoted By: >>44526396

>>44521634
This right here, am fucking sick of everything running wp because they know they can survive a super effective hit because of dynamax. Luckily swapping an eject button to the usual suspects normally results in a salty rq

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Aug 2020 06:43:29 No.44523872 Report

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>>44517985
Most pokemon are going to die before they attack ten times.
If they don't, they're not the kind of pokemon that would run Life Orb.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Aug 2020 06:49:42 No.44523911 Report

Quoted By: >>44523954 >>44524695

>>44517945
When was the last time you saw a Life Orb in the OU ladder? Currently the only things that use it either are immune to the recoil (Magic Guard/Sheer Force) or have a way to mitigate it (Rillaboom). Otherwise the recoil has been an actual dealbreaker for years for many Pokémon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Aug 2020 06:56:05 No.44523954 Report

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>>44523911
There's Bisharp but that's basically it.
Even then I think Black Glasses is more common.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Aug 2020 09:47:24 No.44524695 Report

Quoted By: >>44525019

>>44523911
Some mons still run it, like Venusaur, Bisharp, Dragapult, Crawdaunt, and formerly Cinderace.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Aug 2020 11:18:23 No.44525019 Report

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>>44524695
>Venusaur
It's a Pokémon that works in short bursts, it has only 7 turns tops to do its job so it doesn't care too much about sustainability, also it does run Giga Drain.
>Bisharp
Runs Black Glasses more often.
>Dragapult
Runs Boots, Specs or Leftovers much more often. LO is limited to some Dragon Dance sets.
>Crawdaunt
Fair.
>Cinderace
No, it always ran Boots or a choice item.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Aug 2020 15:39:46 No.44526396 Report

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>>44522112
Ikr If Standard dynamax ever gets cut and Gigantimax stays then a nerf to put on weakness policy is that it should not activate at all on any Pokémon with the Gmax factor so we don’t get crap like gmax weakness policy Lapras. Though I should try the trick eject button strategy as I would love to give a massive fuck you to those pricks that use dynamax weakness policy.

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