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栗栖 !!2dAYVY+VB99 Fri 21 Aug 2020 20:12:52 No.44586824 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>44586841 >>44586842 >>44587096 >>44587712 >>44587944 >>44588088

*redesigned gen 1 Pokémon*

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Anonymous Fri 21 Aug 2020 20:13:45 No.44586831 Report

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I don't care what anyone says, the ice cream line is excellent.

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Anonymous Fri 21 Aug 2020 20:14:47 No.44586841 Report

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>>44586824
Ah yes Heatmor my favorite MissingNo form

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Anonymous Fri 21 Aug 2020 20:14:55 No.44586842 Report

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>>44586824
>Bouffalant looks like Tauros which means the entire dex is just Gen 1 knockoffs

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Aug 2020 20:16:00 No.44586853 Report

Quoted By: >>44586863 >>44586917 >>44587142 >>44587487

>>44586842
>what is audino

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Aug 2020 20:16:48 No.44586863 Report

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>>44586853
Indeedee but with only one gender

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Aug 2020 20:19:39 No.44586889 Report

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this is the worst /vp/ meme

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Aug 2020 20:20:25 No.44586894 Report

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I never understood this complaint about Unova. Most of the commonalities are just bread-and-butter mons you would want to include in any regional dex (route 1 rodent, early bird, rock and bat mons to fill caves with, fighting type com mon, etc.).

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Anonymous Fri 21 Aug 2020 20:23:04 No.44586917 Report

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>>44586853
there are only a handful that are genuinely Gen 1 knock-offs
and it's not like we haven't had Pokemon with parallels to old ones before. Gen 3 for instance had Swalot, Gardevoir, Seviper, Slaking, Feebas/Milotic, Walrein, etc that all share resemblence and typing with older Pokemon

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Anonymous Fri 21 Aug 2020 20:30:35 No.44587008 Report

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>>44586842
persian line -> liepard line
eevee -> type monkeys (I'll admit this is a little stretch, but not much)
drowsee -> munna
PIDgey -> PIDove, they barely bothered to change the name
machamp/golem -> conkeldur/gigalith
zubat -> swoobat
diglet -> drillbur
hitmons -> sawk/thro
2 lines of 3 evo bugs
muk -> garbodor

there are a few that are a bit weaker of parallels, like magnemite/magneton vs klingclang line, but these are pretty obvious

>NOOO THATS NOT THE ENTIRE DEX THO YOUR JUST CHERRY PICKING NOOOOOOO

there be a fucking lot of cherries to pick there

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Aug 2020 20:37:37 No.44587077 Report

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To be fair, Alomomola is a redesigned Gen 3 mon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Aug 2020 20:39:02 No.44587090 Report

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>tripfag
>phoneposter
>chink
need I say more?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Aug 2020 20:39:50 No.44587096 Report

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>>44586824
So that explains why they're so good!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Aug 2020 20:44:46 No.44587136 Report

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>>44587008
Pidgey orignal name is Poppo and Pidove name is Mamepato. This argument is stupid.

I can agree for the rest but some are really dumb. Yes Purrloin is the second cat who can be on two feets but skitty and Glameow exist too.

You have a mushroom pokemon in every odd generation
every gen have a regional rodent/bird...

It's more a cyclic formula than '' plagiarism'' or anything

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Aug 2020 20:45:35 No.44587142 Report

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>>44586853
I dunno

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Aug 2020 20:46:49 No.44587159 Report

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>>44587090
>chink
sounds based

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Aug 2020 21:00:41 No.44587318 Report

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>>44587008
But that IS cherrypicking. It's the largest dex of them all and there are like 8 examples that are similar to Kanto mons

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Anonymous Fri 21 Aug 2020 21:15:21 No.44587487 Report

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>>44586853
my wife

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Anonymous Fri 21 Aug 2020 21:25:59 No.44587581 Report

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>>44587008
You're just basing most, if not all, of these examples on the archetype but not the actual designs themselves. And besides, what's wrong with having more pokemon for the same archetype if they all have different designs and/or typing? Your persian line -> liepard line, for example, is a catmon archetype that's not even exclusive to Unova.

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Anonymous Fri 21 Aug 2020 21:34:35 No.44587663 Report

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>>44586917
I love Excadrill but you need to realize it's an edpt of Sandslash

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Anonymous Fri 21 Aug 2020 21:38:34 No.44587697 Report

Quoted By: >>44587770 >>44587818 >>44588025

>>44587008
This.

>>44587318
>T-There are only iike 8 similar designs!!!!
Pic related. Also stay mad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Aug 2020 21:39:55 No.44587712 Report

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>>44586824
disgusting

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Aug 2020 21:45:35 No.44587770 Report

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>>44587697
>hydreigon and haxorus = dragonite
???

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Aug 2020 21:49:56 No.44587818 Report

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>>44587697
>leavanny and scolipede are beedrill and butterfree ripoffs because they're three stage bug pokemon
>chandelure is a gengar ripoff because its a three stage ghost type
>braviary and mandibuzz are fearow ripoffs because they're two stage bird pokemon
>hydreigon and haxorus are dragonite ripoffs because they're three stage dragon types
can't tell if mediocre bait or actual retardation

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Aug 2020 21:51:46 No.44587838 Report

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>>44586917
>E-Every region has a flying dragon as a pseudo legendary
Johto, Sinnoh, Kalos and Alola say hi.
>Stoutland
Normal Arcanine
>Excadrill
Sandslash
>Zebstrika
Electric Rapidash
>Leavanny
Grass Butterfree
>Scolipede
Beedrill
>Darmanitan
Fire Primeape
>Crustle
Rock Parasect
>Gothitelle and Reuniclus
Alakazam
>Jellicent
Ghost Tentacruel

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Anonymous Fri 21 Aug 2020 21:59:28 No.44587909 Report

Quoted By: >>44587948 >>44587950 >>44587976 >>44588034 >>44588424

Bros.... Did Hoenn rip-off Kanto, too?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Aug 2020 22:01:00 No.44587925 Report

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>>44587838
You can actually go even deeper and talk about the ones who copy other regions.
>Whimsicott
Jumpluff
>Lilligant
Roserade
>Krookodile
Ground Feraligatr
>Maractus
Shitty Cacturne
>Zoroark
Dark Lucario
>Swanna
Pelliper
>Sawsbuck
Grass Stantler
>Alomomola
Luvdisc
>Galvantula
Electric Ariados
>Ferrothorn
Grass Forretress
>Beheeyem and Golurk
Claydol

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Anonymous Fri 21 Aug 2020 22:02:57 No.44587944 Report

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>>44586824
>tfw heatmor and durant are the electabuzz and magmar replacements

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Aug 2020 22:03:25 No.44587948 Report

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>>44587909
Hoenn did, but a lot of these are added in bad faith for the sake of trying to counter the unova/kanto argument. For example, why include shit that's in every generation here? Like the starters, regional birds, pseudos, and legends. Also some of these are massive stretches or have been done in other games like 2 stage water types. Overall this image is bloated with shit that just doesn't work.

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Anonymous Fri 21 Aug 2020 22:03:47 No.44587950 Report

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>>44587909
Damn, I guess everything was kanto all along

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Aug 2020 22:06:40 No.44587976 Report

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>>44587909
actually those are all completely original so its not a kanto ripoff
only unova rips off kanto. don't ask me why. just believe me and shit on gen 5 some more

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Aug 2020 22:07:16 No.44587983 Report

Quoted By: >>44587993 >>44588054 >>44588055

>>44587948
>why include shit that's in every generation here?
while that one comparison image doesn't, most of these shitty meme images do include stuff like regional birds
>some of these are massive stretches or have been done in other games like 2 stage water types
That's how most of the Unova comparisons feel desu and I don't think you can fairly say one counts while another doesn't. Yes, these are definitely Unova Pokemon that pay homage to Kanto but people stretch the truth to ridiculous extents for the same of MUH RIP-OFF KANTO

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Anonymous Fri 21 Aug 2020 22:07:35 No.44587988 Report

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>>44587948
Sssshhh, you'll ruin their spasms with facts and logic, which will send them into an even more autistic fit of rage and seethe.

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Anonymous Fri 21 Aug 2020 22:08:19 No.44587993 Report

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>>44587983
for the sake of*

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Anonymous Fri 21 Aug 2020 22:09:48 No.44588007 Report

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>>44587988
Anon destroyed with FACTS and LOGIC!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Aug 2020 22:10:44 No.44588014 Report

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You can compare literally every single Pokemon to another. By this logic every Pokemon is a ripoff. Quit being assholes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Aug 2020 22:12:04 No.44588025 Report

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>>44587697
Of all the bait images on /vp/, this is by far the worst
>Zebstrika and Rapidash are the same Pokemon despite being based on different animals and being different typings
You do know multiple hooved animals exist in the real world right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Aug 2020 22:12:31 No.44588032 Report

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Why would the Americas have Japanese-regional Pokemon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Aug 2020 22:12:39 No.44588034 Report

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>>44587909
For the record I think a lot of the Unova ripping off Kanto shit is overblown, but this picture is garbage. Besides the obvious stuff that every region has as well, some of these are amazingly horrendous stretches.
>Machop/Makuhita
>Onix/Nosepass (though it's funny how they both got Steel evolutions in the next generation)
>Doduo/Altaria
>Growlithe/Electrike
>2 stage Water-types shouldn't even be included here
>Ponyta/Numel
>Drowzee/Spoink
>Gastly/Shuppet + Duskull (this one is REALLY grasping at straws)
>Shellder/Clamperl
Yeah no

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Aug 2020 22:14:47 No.44588054 Report

Quoted By: >>44588379

>>44587983
>Yes, these are definitely Unova Pokemon that pay homage to Kanto but people stretch the truth to ridiculous extents for the same of MUH RIP-OFF KANTO
Because, unlike other regions that just follow a pattern(make a mon like Shiinotic that is based on a mushroom like Parasect, but give it an unique concept and design), Unova just straight up recycled the exact same concepts Kanto had for its dex(lets take Parasect but instead of a mushroom it'll have a giant boulder on its back), which is why Unova is indeed a Kanto ripoff. Hell, even the BW MCs look like recolors of Red and Leaf.

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Anonymous Fri 21 Aug 2020 22:14:49 No.44588055 Report

Quoted By: >>44588074

>>44587983
I do agree, but the hoenn image feels like a much larger, exaggerated stretch than any unova comparison pic I've ever seen. I hardly see any of the unova pics including the starters or legendaries for example.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Aug 2020 22:15:12 No.44588061 Report

Quoted By: >>44588068 >>44588122

>>44587976
Unova isn't guilty of reusing concepts when Hoenn did it first dumbfuck

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Anonymous Fri 21 Aug 2020 22:16:20 No.44588068 Report

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>>44588061
Imagine missing the sarcasm this much.
Dumb fuck.

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Anonymous Fri 21 Aug 2020 22:16:26 No.44588070 Report

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>Western regions of Pokemon should have the exact same stuff as Japan

What do they mean by this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Aug 2020 22:16:50 No.44588074 Report

Quoted By: >>44588102

>>44588055
>exaggerated
That's kinda the point, I think. The starters and legendaries, as you mentioned, are way too overblown to be believable - the image looks like it exists solely to make fun of the Unova comparison images.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Aug 2020 22:17:54 No.44588088 Report

Quoted By: >>44588094

>>44586824
I'm confused by how this is making people seethe. I thought that was the whole point of this gen? Acting like a mini gen 1 reboot?

It's not a bad thing

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Anonymous Fri 21 Aug 2020 22:19:04 No.44588094 Report

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>>44588088
"USA place bad" mostly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Aug 2020 22:19:40 No.44588102 Report

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>>44588074
That was definitely the intent, but people have been posting it as a legitimate argument lately. Just so you know, I don't exactly agree with a lot of the unova/kanto rip-off shit, but people that genuinely believe hoenn was worse about it are massively retarded.

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Anonymous Fri 21 Aug 2020 22:21:33 No.44588122 Report

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>>44588061
Reading comprehension is hard huh

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Anonymous Fri 21 Aug 2020 22:22:30 No.44588134 Report

Quoted By: >>44588510

Galar also ripped off Johto, btw.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Aug 2020 22:23:33 No.44588140 Report

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>>44586917
>Audino is pink and a good support pokemon therefore its litcherally just Chansey
>Sawk and Throh are litcherally just Hitmonchan/lee because one is fast while the other is defensive
>Trubbish is litcherally grimer because it is a pile of waste
>Bouffalant is a 4 legged animal with horns therefore its LITCHERALLY TAUROS

Bro this is fucking retarded. The only Unova Pokemon that come close to being redesigned Gen 1 mons are the Timburr and Roggenrola lines, but theyre still different enough to hold their own.

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Anonymous Fri 21 Aug 2020 22:29:00 No.44588188 Report

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>>44587008
>Liepard is a cat therefore its LITERALLY MEOWTH DOOD
Are pokemon just not allowed to be based on the same species of irl animals as gen 1 pokemon?
>B-Buh-BUHT THEY HAVE SAME TYPING DOOD
Enlighten us on what type you'd give to a fucking mole if not ground, or a bat if not flying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Aug 2020 22:43:28 No.44588313 Report

Quoted By: >>44588342

>if a Pokemon shares a general design theme and a typing it's a knock-off
>but if it shares a typing but not a design it's still a knock-off
>but if it shares a design but not a typing it's still a knock-off
>and if it doesn't share a design or a typing then it's still a knock-off
So basically every Pokemon is a knock-off of each other?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Aug 2020 22:46:42 No.44588342 Report

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>>44588313
Throw "Unova bad" on it and you'll be a 4chan regular!

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Anonymous Fri 21 Aug 2020 22:48:58 No.44588365 Report

Quoted By: >>44588377 >>44588425

redesigned farfetch'd

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Anonymous Fri 21 Aug 2020 22:50:13 No.44588377 Report

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>>44588365
More like redesigned xatu desu

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Anonymous Fri 21 Aug 2020 22:50:31 No.44588379 Report

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>>44588054
Parasect is a cicada nymph(even has the same number of limbs) NOT a hermit crab

Crustle is nothing at all like Parasect

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Anonymous Fri 21 Aug 2020 22:54:06 No.44588424 Report

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>>44587909
>hoenn mons copy a pokemon's roles in the pokedex but makes sure to make the designs and entire concepts very different unless it's fitting into an archetype like "regional bird"
>gen 5 just takes the concept and role and slightly twists it

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Anonymous Fri 21 Aug 2020 22:54:10 No.44588425 Report

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>>44588365
Sigilyph is a kinomon

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Anonymous Fri 21 Aug 2020 22:58:47 No.44588465 Report

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>>44588424
>hoenn mons copy a pokemon's roles in the pokedex but makes sure to make the designs and entire concepts very different unless it's fitting into an archetype like "regional bird"
This is the case for Unova as well. Conkeldurr is very different in design from Machamp, Golem is a bipedal rock lizard whereas Gigalith is a quadruped crystal monster, etc.
Only ones which are straight copies are the birds, rodents, and maybe Buffolaunt and the Munna line.

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Anonymous Fri 21 Aug 2020 23:03:55 No.44588510 Report

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>>44588134
>mareep>Wooloo
>donphan>copperajah
albeit it does look good drawn rather than modeled .
>ledian<orbeetle
octillery >grappleoct
jumpluff>eldegoss

Idk man kinda a crappy gen

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Aug 2020 23:04:55 No.44588518 Report

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>Crustle is simultaneously a Kingler, Parasect and Snorlax remake
Gotta love boomers

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