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Anonymous Tue 25 Aug 2020 18:18:54 No.44627376 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>44627411 >>44627798 >>44628235 >>44628430 >>44628549 >>44628557 >>44628568 >>44633978 >>44634270 >>44635004 >>44635689 >>44635714 >>44635748 >>44637678 >>44638646 >>44644828

These should've been fucking banned as well for Series 6. Now we have to deal with these assholes with weaker options to combat them, fuck GameFreak or whoever is in charge of this shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Aug 2020 18:22:16 No.44627411 Report

Quoted By: >>44631902 >>44633945

>>44627376
I warned you fuckers that the ban wouldn't be good or healthy but you were all too busy celebrating the death of Ace to see.

Gen 8 is literally, actually, unironically unsalvageable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Aug 2020 18:28:26 No.44627474 Report

Quoted By: >>44634047

You know what Lapras needs? Shell Smash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Aug 2020 18:59:05 No.44627798 Report

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>>44627376
Just use Frosmoth bro

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Aug 2020 19:30:27 No.44628153 Report

Quoted By: >>44628229 >>44628519

>lose crutches
>H-HELP ME NOOOOOOO

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Aug 2020 19:37:29 No.44628223 Report

Quoted By: >>44628307 >>44628415 >>44628477

so make a team that is more specialized to stop them?
what happened to pokemon players? it's like they forget how to build teams

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Aug 2020 19:37:46 No.44628229 Report

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>>44628153
They're both bullshit

Dante !NrBbTDvnqg

Dante !NrBbTDvnqg Tue 25 Aug 2020 19:38:45 No.44628235 Report

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>>44627376
Both aren’t much of a problem if you bring the right counters

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Aug 2020 19:45:44 No.44628307 Report

Quoted By: >>44628415

>>44628223
You're on /vp/ anon, they constantly need to be told what to do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Aug 2020 19:56:35 No.44628415 Report

Quoted By: >>44635684

>>44628223
>>44628307
The sad thing is /vp doesn't even try to think outside the box and just want to be given a fast and clear answer. You know that both defog and brick break gets rid of G-Lap aurora veil. Plus you can easily taunt Dusclops because it always goes for trick room. They are not hard counters anon is just being brain dead

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Aug 2020 19:57:50 No.44628430 Report

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>>44627376
I remember running Brick Break Passimian to deal with Lapras

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Aug 2020 20:01:42 No.44628477 Report

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>>44628223
>What do you mean I should port over a toxic taunt Umbreon to dispatch of these two? I should be able to win using my patented Flygon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Aug 2020 20:05:02 No.44628519 Report

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>>44628153
How are those two not crutches?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Aug 2020 20:07:47 No.44628549 Report

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>>44627376
That's a great point OP.
Now we have to deal with these ubnoxious unkillable cunts

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Aug 2020 20:08:51 No.44628557 Report

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>>44627376
And Charizard and Amoonguss

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Aug 2020 20:09:48 No.44628568 Report

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>>44627376
Knockoff

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Aug 2020 20:12:06 No.44628589 Report

Quoted By: >>44631885

If I can eke out wins vs these two with a shitty hail team so can you anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Aug 2020 23:02:47 No.44630561 Report

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Bump.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Aug 2020 01:06:56 No.44631885 Report

Quoted By: >>44631921

>>44628589
What ranking?
Because it's possible to sweep teams of legendaries with a Magikarp if your opponent is shitty enough.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Aug 2020 01:08:54 No.44631902 Report

Quoted By: >>44632187

>>44627411
Banning by usage is a terrible idea
You have to ban the enablers of a cancerous team composition

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 26 Aug 2020 01:10:15 No.44631921 Report

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>>44631885
1k Master Ball

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Aug 2020 01:15:14 No.44631965 Report

Quoted By: >>44631983 >>44632123 >>44632187

Can someone redpill me on how Dusclops is a better option than G-Corsola? Haven't touched the meta that much but I kept hearing early on how corsola was a bitch to fight

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Aug 2020 01:16:59 No.44631983 Report

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>>44631965
Dusclops is for setting TR.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Aug 2020 01:21:32 No.44632033 Report

Quoted By: >>44632061

gamefake ban bun but dusclops ok cause gamefake love stall

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 26 Aug 2020 01:24:55 No.44632061 Report

Quoted By: >>44634064

>>44632033
>+1 252+ Atk Life Orb Drapion Max Darkness (130 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Dusclops: 151-179 (102.7 - 121.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Start using Coaching alongside a good dark attacker.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Aug 2020 01:32:20 No.44632123 Report

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>>44631965
Dusclops can set TR + weak Bulldoze for Weakness Policy shenanigans

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Aug 2020 01:38:42 No.44632187 Report

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>>44631902
While not perfect, banning by usage will usually end up catching most of those enablers.
I'd love to get an alternative method to spice up the scene, but this one is very simple and does force things to change.

>>44631965
Speed is even more important this generation, so Tailwind and TR will keep popping up as core elements of most serious teams.
P2 and Dusclops are some of the best setters for TR; it's no surprise that if one is banned the other will rise in usage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Aug 2020 01:40:31 No.44632201 Report

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ITT: Waa, waa muh 'competitive'

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Aug 2020 05:27:11 No.44633945 Report

Quoted By: >>44634216

>>44627411
>Gen 8 is literally, actually, unironically unsalvageable.
It's salvageable. GF just needs to actually make an effort. Maybe get some VGC players on board and have them say what the most busted mons are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Aug 2020 05:32:36 No.44633978 Report

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>>44627376
Just use snarl.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Aug 2020 05:44:55 No.44634047 Report

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>>44627474
No it doesnt you low ELO singles player

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Aug 2020 05:47:46 No.44634064 Report

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>>44632061
Or just helping hand dark max move its not that fucking hard

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Aug 2020 06:22:17 No.44634216 Report

Quoted By: >>44634265

>>44633945
It's unsalvagable because the entire core mechanic everything is centered around is broken beyond repair.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Aug 2020 06:36:09 No.44634265 Report

Quoted By: >>44635735

>>44634216
Why not just ban the core mechanic if it's so cancerous?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Aug 2020 06:38:28 No.44634270 Report

Quoted By: >>44634996 >>44635389

>>44627376
I played vs dynamax Dusclops twice.
I had no chance when fucking grimsnarl gigantamax can 4ko it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Aug 2020 09:26:55 No.44634996 Report

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>>44634270
>losing to fucking maxclops
Yiu should be ashamed nigga

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Aug 2020 09:30:41 No.44635004 Report

Quoted By:

>>44627376
Frosmoth perfectly counters the locness monster tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Aug 2020 10:59:45 No.44635389 Report

Quoted By: >>44635641

>>44634270
>dynamax Dusclops
But why though? Isn't Dusclops's utility the whole point of its existence?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Aug 2020 12:06:44 No.44635641 Report

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>>44635389
I was battling one that was boosting its attack and then swept my team with shadowsneak

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Aug 2020 12:15:00 No.44635684 Report

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>>44628415
Don’t know about anyone else but since Dusclops usually runs eviolite, it’s also naturally Vulnerable to Poltergeist which even with Eviolite can still shread its HP since You know Dusclops still has a shit Base HP state.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 26 Aug 2020 12:15:26 No.44635689 Report

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>>44627376
Heh, nothin' personnel...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Aug 2020 12:20:44 No.44635714 Report

Quoted By: >>44635748 >>44636176

>>44627376
My problem isn’t with Lapras itself but Rather Dynamax’s interaction with Weakness policy which ends up causing a lot of bullshit that shouldn’t even be a thing to begin with and its not just Lapras Coalossal is also a culprit as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Aug 2020 12:24:07 No.44635735 Report

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>>44634265
Probably because banning it would be gamefreak admitting its a mistake which they won’t until Dynamax is cut in gen 9.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Aug 2020 12:26:18 No.44635748 Report

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>>44635714
Lapras rarely even runs WP these days.

>>44627376
Just run (whatever is left of) Sun bro.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Aug 2020 13:11:10 No.44635982 Report

Quoted By: >>44636176 >>44636189

Lapras is so easy to defeat, just drop it's sp.atk via one way or another and it just sits there. Aurora Veil being problem? Just Brick Break or whatever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Aug 2020 13:39:41 No.44636176 Report

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>>44635982
Yeah obviously i'm gonna adjust, I just made this thread to vent. I honestly haven't played much of series 6 yet.

>>44635714
This. WP abuse is annoying.

Cinderace !G7BE3M6nU6

Cinderace !G7BE3M6nU6 Wed 26 Aug 2020 13:42:11 No.44636189 Report

Quoted By: >>44636208

>>44635982
>Just do that :^)

This is why you are shit players, you pretend it's easy

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Aug 2020 13:45:29 No.44636208 Report

Quoted By: >>44636232

>>44636189
What's also funny is when people come up with these really intracate synergies that require the most ideal circumstances like their opponent is just gonna sit there and let them do whatever they want. ngl I've been guilty of this in the past but it's still funny when people ragequit because of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Aug 2020 13:48:56 No.44636232 Report

Quoted By: >>44636250 >>44636261

>>44636208
Trick eject button Grimsnarl :) its one of the most hilarious way of killing their Dynamax and plus even outside that its useful as you can can essentially set up a screen and get a free switch if it it got hit and lived

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 26 Aug 2020 13:51:04 No.44636250 Report

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>>44636232
I've fallen for Trick/Eject way more times than I'd like to admit. Luckily my favorite psychic type won't need to Dynamax when she returns.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Aug 2020 13:52:52 No.44636261 Report

Quoted By: >>44636291

>>44636232
This but i use whim since that little fucker can tailwind too. So many rage quits when the turn on shitters end up forcing their own dmax to switch coz you took their wp

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 26 Aug 2020 13:56:18 No.44636291 Report

Quoted By: >>44636399

>>44636261
Ikr I wish I used this strat more often but I didn’t have many really fully trained Pokémon to really take it seriously as I only really did ranked just to get that Rank master Ribbon on my shiny Dusknoir and a admittedly boxful of Pokemon I liked.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Aug 2020 14:07:17 No.44636399 Report

Quoted By: >>44637020

>>44636291
I have 100 competitive mons ready to go. If you ever want a rental team ill slap a code for you.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 26 Aug 2020 14:29:32 No.44636569 Report

Quoted By: >>44636588

I'm gonna test out a Ninetails/Shiftry sun team. What are some mons to support this core?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Aug 2020 14:31:30 No.44636588 Report

Quoted By: >>44636602

>>44636569
Vgc or singles?
Charifag will appreciate the sun

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Aug 2020 14:32:34 No.44636602 Report

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>>44636588
VGC

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Aug 2020 15:23:24 No.44637020 Report

Quoted By: >>44637030

>>44636399
Its fine, I already got what I needed from ranked and desu I never really gave a shit about competitive myself beyond just knowing the game mechanics itself such as IV/EVs etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Aug 2020 15:25:01 No.44637030 Report

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>>44637020
Like until Ranked Decides to allow My shiny Giratina (so I can get the rank master ribbon on it), I’ll probably not touch it for a long while.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 26 Aug 2020 17:10:45 No.44637678 Report

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>>44627376
Play Competitive Persona

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Aug 2020 19:03:28 No.44638646 Report

Quoted By: >>44639986

>>44627376
But they weren't in the top 10 which means they weren't cancerous.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Aug 2020 21:19:02 No.44639986 Report

Quoted By: >>44640000 >>44640605

>>44638646
Though that’s probably because the top ten is what prevented them from being Cancerous, since their gone, its basically free real estate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Aug 2020 21:20:12 No.44640000 Report

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>>44639986
And by preventing I mean it kept those two in check in some form

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Aug 2020 22:47:34 No.44640605 Report

Quoted By: >>44641405

>>44639986
That's just theorymon.
There's no way of knowing how good they'll be until the meta develops.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Aug 2020 22:53:41 No.44640649 Report

Quoted By: >>44640663

do you guys seriously need funky monke and baracat holding your hands at all times

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Aug 2020 22:55:47 No.44640663 Report

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>>44640649
Yes, they make me feel so warm and safe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Aug 2020 22:57:56 No.44640680 Report

Quoted By: >>44640779 >>44640841 >>44640860 >>44640869 >>44641171

I have my doubts that Incineroar will even appear next gen. He only showed up in the DLC due the the Pokemon from the prior gen showing up on the IoA. Next gen people might have to get by without him, since starters don't seem to all be included. Next gen will likely bring back the Galar starters instead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Aug 2020 23:08:36 No.44640779 Report

Quoted By: >>44640860

>>44640680
Inshitcelroar was in the base game tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Aug 2020 23:13:27 No.44640841 Report

Quoted By: >>44640860

>>44640680
He might sit out but next gen is a long time away.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Aug 2020 23:14:50 No.44640860 Report

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>>44640680
>>44640779
>>44640841
Cringe and retarded pilled

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Aug 2020 23:15:58 No.44640869 Report

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>>44640680
He was transferable but not actually obtainable in SwSh's base game. Next gen has a good chance of not including him at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Aug 2020 23:49:07 No.44641171 Report

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>>44640680
Incineroar is Masuda's fursona. He'll be back.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Aug 2020 00:14:08 No.44641405 Report

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>>44640605
The meta is only going to last one month. That’s not enough time to see what’s healthy or not

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 27 Aug 2020 00:20:20 No.44641472 Report

Quoted By: >>44642865

They'll be irrelevant when the real powerhouses come to reclaim their rightful spots.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Aug 2020 03:13:36 No.44642865 Report

Quoted By: >>44642915

>>44641472
You forgot to include the Deer of clicking Geomancy to win.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Aug 2020 03:18:44 No.44642915 Report

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>>44642865
Xerneas needs another 2 years to enter VGC even if it’s coming back in a month or two.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Aug 2020 09:04:14 No.44644828 Report

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>>44627376
lmao just adapt smogcuck

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