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Anonymous Thu 27 Aug 2020 00:49:48 No.44641695 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>44641720 >>44641737 >>44641945 >>44641988 >>44642029 >>44642754 >>44642760 >>44645496 >>44646916 >>44647032

>Fucking level 64
Why?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Aug 2020 00:51:30 No.44641709 Report

Quoted By: >>44641727 >>44642426

so that you actually get to use Deino and Zweilous before they evolve, unlike Jangmo-o which becomes Kommo-o two levels after you catch it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Aug 2020 00:52:12 No.44641712 Report

Quoted By: >>44641729

what level is ghetsis'?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Aug 2020 00:53:17 No.44641720 Report

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>>44641695
I don't know uwu

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Aug 2020 00:54:06 No.44641727 Report

Quoted By: >>44642704

>>44641709
They could have put Deino at Milstraton Cave like they did with Axew

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Aug 2020 00:54:49 No.44641729 Report

Quoted By: >>44641775 >>44645498

>>44641712
54 in BW, 52 in the sequels

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Aug 2020 00:56:34 No.44641737 Report

Quoted By: >>44644445 >>44645102

>>44641695
Because you catch it at level 38-40. They based all the evolution levels of gen 5 around when you could get them in black and white, such that you'd have to actually use each evolutionary stage for a reasonable amount of levels, which is based. The real issue is how future games refuse to change the evolution levels even when it would make the games better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Aug 2020 01:00:44 No.44641775 Report

Quoted By: >>44642005 >>44642025

>>44641729
>54 in BW, 52 in the sequels
Lol, really? So in two years he lost two levels?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Aug 2020 01:21:57 No.44641945 Report

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>>44641695
It's based on the Nintendo 64.
Hydreigon has 3 heads, and the N64 controller was designed for people with 3 hands.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 27 Aug 2020 01:24:03 No.44641974 Report

Quoted By: >>44642026 >>44643214

>Fucking level 60
Why?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Aug 2020 01:25:17 No.44641988 Report

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>>44641695
BW's late evos were great. The starters should evolve later too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Aug 2020 01:27:09 No.44642005 Report

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>>44641775
Well, it also gets Frustration in BW2 soooo

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Aug 2020 01:29:47 No.44642025 Report

Quoted By: >>44645500

>>44641775
This happens to lance in gen 2 as well, and his level downgrade is even more significant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Aug 2020 01:29:51 No.44642026 Report

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>>44641974
You get its pre evos at their early to late 50s. With Exp. Candies you can evolve it in no time

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Aug 2020 01:30:14 No.44642029 Report

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>>44641695
more pokemon should evolve at high levels

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Aug 2020 02:17:13 No.44642426 Report

Quoted By: >>44643199

>>44641709
This can be fixed with them being found earlier
This way you can actually use them in your journey rather than post-game only

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 27 Aug 2020 02:41:57 No.44642614 Report

Quoted By: >>44646936

Why are they so adverse to doing something like this again. Nobody complains about larvitar's evolution levels. It's basically future proofed despite appearing late in its debut game. This is really apparent in games like ultra where it shows up side by side with things like rufflet, vullaby, and noibat that kept their end game levels. I'd add pawniard to the list, but the game just gives up and gives you underleveled bisharp with no hoops to jump through.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Aug 2020 02:53:21 No.44642704 Report

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>>44641727
no because axew is the dragon of milstraton cave.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Aug 2020 03:00:14 No.44642754 Report

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>>44641695
Audino encounters made levelling easy

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 27 Aug 2020 03:01:00 No.44642760 Report

Quoted By: >>44643240 >>44643422 >>44646883

>>44641695
A lot of Unova Pokemon (and a few of Kalos) evolve ate ridiculous levels.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Aug 2020 04:01:50 No.44643199 Report

Quoted By: >>44643547 >>44647092

>>44642426
Pseudo legends of the gen are usually not found that early. Even when early they are not easy to catch (such as dratini in safari zone in kanto). Larvitar is only found all the way in mount silver. Bagon require waterfall near end game in hoenn, beldom is post game. Gible seems to be exception but is considered "hidden" away.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Aug 2020 04:03:58 No.44643214 Report

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>>44641974
psuedos already evolve at 55 usually, might as well

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Aug 2020 04:07:49 No.44643240 Report

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>>44642760
I think it should go;
Vanillite -Lv32-> Vanillish -Lv44-> Vanilluxe
Litwick -Lv38-> Lampent -DuskStone-> Chandelure
Mienfoo -Lv42-> Mienshao
Pawniard -Lv38-> Bisharp
Rufflet -Lv42-> Braviary
Vullaby -Lv42-> Mandibuzz
Deino -Lv45-> Zweilous -Lv55-> Hydreigon

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 27 Aug 2020 04:17:39 No.44643309 Report

Quoted By: >>44643457

>evolves at level 54
>found in route 2 in Alola

Such a cruel prank Gamefreak pulled

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 27 Aug 2020 04:32:54 No.44643395 Report

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>Grimsley's bisharp is at evolution level
>Kahili's mandibuzz is at evolution level
>Kukui's braviary is barely over evolution level
>Hau gets a noivern at 40 instead of 48
>Almost everyone who uses hydreigon has it at a level before it actually evolves (Ghetsis both times, Iris' first match in any mode)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Aug 2020 04:38:08 No.44643422 Report

Quoted By: >>44645187

>>44642760
I got a take on better evolution points than the default too.
Vanillite -Lv28-> Vanillish -Lv44-> Vanilluxe
Litwick -Lv36-> Lampent -DuskStone-> Chandelure
Mienfoo -Lv35-> Mienshao
Pawniard -Lv35-> Bisharp
Rufflet -Lv36-> Braviary
Vullaby -Lv36-> Mandibuzz
Deino -Lv35-> Zweilous -Lv50-> Hydreigon

And for some of the late bloomers not on this chart:
Dratini -Lv35-> Dragonair -Lv50-> Dragonite
Larvitar -Lv35-> Pupitar -Lv50-> Tyranitar
Klink -Lv32-> Klang -Lv42-> Klinklang
Frillish -Lv32-> Jellicent
Larvesta -Lv42-> Volcarona
Skrelp -Lv40-> Dragalge
Noibat -Lv36-> Noivern
Cosmog -Lv40-> Cosmoem -Lv50-> Solgaleo/Lunala
Dreepy -Lv35-> Drakloak -Lv50-> Dragapult

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 27 Aug 2020 04:43:04 No.44643457 Report

Quoted By: >>44643974

>>44643309
I found a worse prank. At least Rufflet has a good Attack stat. This poor little bat has only 245 BST, and is found at the same level in the Ultra games (Verdant Cavern.instead of Route 3, but still level 11).

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Aug 2020 04:57:20 No.44643547 Report

Quoted By: >>44643979

>>44643199
>Even when early they are not easy to catch

And that's how it should be
A pokemon doesnt have to be in a late area to be rare
Just put them in an optional secluded area with low encounter rate

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Aug 2020 06:18:33 No.44643974 Report

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>>44643457
I remember using one in my playthrough of ultra sun cause I went full meme with my team and Jesus Christ Noibat always died instantly

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Aug 2020 06:19:24 No.44643979 Report

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>>44643547
This. Gible is the best handled Pseudo for this very reason. It's rare and extremely well hidden away, making it a reward for legitimately engaging with more obtuse exploration, yet it's obtainable early game. Pseudos aren't OP until they reach their final form, having stats comparable to starters in the first 2 stages, so making them available early game isn't broken. Having extremely late evolution levels is already enough to balance having them in the game

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Aug 2020 07:53:45 No.44644445 Report

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>>44641737
Would it be good to have it so that the level needed for evolution is Level Caught + X? (with caps so that if you somehow manage to catch a really high level pokemon/decide to take off everstone at the last minute you can still evolve)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Aug 2020 09:56:54 No.44645102 Report

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>>44641737
Even then you have to grind a decent amount to get them above level 50 (in bw1 at least) before the eliete 4. Not to mention a decent amount of late evolvers (Pawniard, Meinfoo, the birds) can be caught in their evolved forms at the very start of postgame which somewhat defeats the purpose

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Aug 2020 10:12:04 No.44645187 Report

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>>44643422
>removing only 3 levels from Cosmog’s chain
why? the point is that it evolves at prime numbers because it’s a UB. You kept the shitty high level part of trying to evolve it and removed the thematic gimmick for no reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Aug 2020 11:11:53 No.44645496 Report

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>>44641695
because its high level that way you know its powerful

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Aug 2020 11:12:56 No.44645498 Report

Quoted By:

>>44641729
he used gameshark like lance did

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Aug 2020 11:13:57 No.44645500 Report

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>>44642025
lance uses gameshark

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Aug 2020 15:13:03 No.44646859 Report

Quoted By: >>44646893

Remember the shadow triad states Ghetsis lost all his Pokemon after getting arrested so he had to start over.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Aug 2020 15:17:12 No.44646883 Report

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>>44642760
>ridiculous levels
You need to be 18 to post, faggot-kun

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Aug 2020 15:17:56 No.44646893 Report

Quoted By:

>>44646859
he got 3 of them back

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Aug 2020 15:19:48 No.44646916 Report

Quoted By: >>44646934

>>44641695
here I am with the answer

Because that's the year the first King Godorah movie was released.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Aug 2020 15:22:02 No.44646934 Report

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>>44646916
*Ghidorah

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Aug 2020 15:22:31 No.44646936 Report

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>>44642614
But everyone hated that you could only catch Larvitar at the final area of the game at a much lower level than anything there and then had to grind it for 40 levels to get Tyranitar. I ended up trading mine to myself to use it earlier in the game so I could enjoy it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Aug 2020 15:27:13 No.44646965 Report

Quoted By: >>44647165

High level evolution is great, though. I like actually using the other stages if they aren't irredeemable shitmon and makes the evolution feel like you worked towards it instead of being something you're just hurtling towards.
I don't know why people always bitch about Gen V doing this when Gen I is just as bad with a lot of two-stage lines that you catch mid game around level 15 don't evolve until like level 37 or 42.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Aug 2020 15:36:34 No.44647032 Report

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>>44641695
>I NEED MUH SHILLMONS AND JOINS YOUR TEAM MONS RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE GAME!
B/W2+ was a mistake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Aug 2020 15:44:03 No.44647092 Report

Quoted By: >>44647198

>>44643199
HGSS lets you get Larvitar after the 4th gym

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Aug 2020 15:52:32 No.44647165 Report

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>>44646965
because that's a reasonable level to evolve?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Aug 2020 15:56:15 No.44647198 Report

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>>44647092
HGSS is shit lil zoom

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