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Anonymous Sun 30 Aug 2020 22:00:49 No.44682383 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>44682416 >>44682438 >>44685923 >>44686850 >>44686867 >>44687276

nerf it nerf it nerf it nerf it nerf it nerf it nerf it nerf it NERF IT NERF IT NERF IT NERF IT NERF IT NERF IT NERF IT NERF IT NERF IT NERF IT NERF IT FUCK GIGANTAMAX AND FUCK GEN 8 META

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Aug 2020 22:01:45 No.44682396 Report

Quoted By: >>44682416 >>44682420

Why? Airstream being too powerful aside it’s a pretty balanced mechanic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Aug 2020 22:02:42 No.44682411 Report

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git gud

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Aug 2020 22:03:26 No.44682416 Report

Quoted By: >>44682435 >>44683235

>>44682383
Dynamax is a far more fun and interesting battle gimmick than mega evolutions and z-moves though.

>>44682396
They could at least make Max Airstream cap at 95-100 power like Knuckle and Ooze.

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Anonymous Sun 30 Aug 2020 22:03:44 No.44682420 Report

Quoted By: >>44682441

>>44682396
>3 consecutives z moves out of nowhere is a pretty balanced mechanic

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Aug 2020 22:04:57 No.44682432 Report

Quoted By: >>44682462

GF made Max Knuckle and Ooze weaker because they knew how much snowball potential they had, but they somehow failed to realize how monumentally important speed control is and therefore how busted Max Airstream is?

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Anonymous Sun 30 Aug 2020 22:05:16 No.44682435 Report

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>>44682416
>They could at least make Max Airstream cap at 95-100 power like Knuckle and Ooze.
This would help a lot, the fact that any hard hitting mon can invest in bulk instead of speed and get a 120bp speed boost for 3 turns is ridiculous.

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Anonymous Sun 30 Aug 2020 22:05:37 No.44682438 Report

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>>44682383
wah wah I'm a stupid dyke who's bad at the games

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Aug 2020 22:06:08 No.44682441 Report

Quoted By: >>44686859

>>44682420
When you have access to them too? Yeah.

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Anonymous Sun 30 Aug 2020 22:08:08 No.44682462 Report

Quoted By: >>44683793

>>44682432
not to mention unlike the other two Airstream has no immunities and thus cant fail if it lands, it’s arguably still more broken than Ooze and Knuckle even if they didnt have the power cap for that reason

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Anonymous Sun 30 Aug 2020 22:09:52 No.44682481 Report

Quoted By: >>44682516 >>44682557

Itt: domesticated galar consoooooomersn

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Anonymous Sun 30 Aug 2020 22:13:02 No.44682516 Report

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>>44682481
>sn

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Anonymous Sun 30 Aug 2020 22:17:10 No.44682557 Report

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>>44682481
You should be able to distinguish which aspects of something are good and which ones are bad, instead thinking that everything associated with something specific is bad. Such blanket generalizations are a sign of low intelligence because it's the simple and easy way compared to employing critical thinking skills.

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Anonymous Sun 30 Aug 2020 22:21:13 No.44682592 Report

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What if they:
>nerfed Airstream to 100 BP
>capped the amount of stat boosts at 1-2
Would that be fine?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Aug 2020 22:24:23 No.44682620 Report

Quoted By: >>44682635 >>44682647

I wouldn't really hate it so much if it didn't stop a bunch of shit for no reason. It's like they wanted to make sure the only way you could stop Dynamax is with brute force.

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Anonymous Sun 30 Aug 2020 22:25:45 No.44682635 Report

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>>44682620
Because cheesing it with stuff like Whirlwind or Destiny Bond would be extremely lame and dumb.

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Anonymous Sun 30 Aug 2020 22:27:30 No.44682647 Report

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>>44682620
The only thing that bothers me is the weight stuff, everything else is fine

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Anonymous Sun 30 Aug 2020 23:34:43 No.44683235 Report

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>>44682416
Their attempt at a nerf seems to have been heavily restricting what Pokemon could learn flying type attacks (leading to a ton of Pokemon losing access to aerial ace)

Just make it 95 power. It'd fix so much. 95 Base Special Attack Kingdra shouldn't be able to get 1HKOs with a STAB-less Max Airstream, but he can. And do it before Landorus arrives, holy fuck. Oh and fucking make Duraludon's G-Max move actually worthwhile.

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Anonymous Sun 30 Aug 2020 23:35:46 No.44683245 Report

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>>44682635
The issue with saying that is that some stuff CAN cheese it. It's arbitrary what can and can't.

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Anonymous Mon 31 Aug 2020 00:42:28 No.44683793 Report

Quoted By: >>44687266

>>44682462
This. They should've made something immune to flying, or make the speed max move be a type that something is immune to.

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Anonymous Mon 31 Aug 2020 06:22:05 No.44685923 Report

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>>44682383
Dynamax now disables your item and ability for 3 turns.
Did I fix it?

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Anonymous Mon 31 Aug 2020 09:46:49 No.44686850 Report

Quoted By: >>44686854

>>44682383
I have an idea to nerf Dynamax.
What if it was a limited resource that you could only use for 3 turns.
And also make it so both players can use it. Then it'll be balanced by default.

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Anonymous Mon 31 Aug 2020 09:47:58 No.44686854 Report

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>>44686850
*Slurp noises*

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Anonymous Mon 31 Aug 2020 09:50:05 No.44686859 Report

Quoted By: >>44686902 >>44687055

>>44682441
>Implying everyone runs the same set
>Implying it isn't a bluff game of calling strategies, and if you fail, you get set up on and swept

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Anonymous Mon 31 Aug 2020 09:52:09 No.44686867 Report

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>>44682383
>fanfic meta
Play smogon doubles and thank me later

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Anonymous Mon 31 Aug 2020 09:57:44 No.44686895 Report

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>>44686867
OU singles already banned dynamax months ago
Why would anyone playing singles complain about it?

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Anonymous Mon 31 Aug 2020 09:58:58 No.44686902 Report

Quoted By: >>44686918 >>44687038

>>44686859
Everyone has the option to run the same sets, and god forbid you have to use your brain and make predictions in a turn-based strategy game.

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Anonymous Mon 31 Aug 2020 10:01:18 No.44686918 Report

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>>44686902
>predicting and unpredictable gimmick

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Anonymous Mon 31 Aug 2020 10:31:13 No.44687038 Report

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>>44686902
>just perfectly predict your opponent's team, strategy, and movesets ahead of time, lol
I know you're taking the piss, but come on anon...

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Anonymous Mon 31 Aug 2020 10:36:47 No.44687055 Report

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>>44686859
>oh no, I have to guess and my opponent might know I guessed

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Anonymous Mon 31 Aug 2020 11:15:55 No.44687204 Report

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I actually think there's a tiny chance that they will make some kind of change to dynamax. They showed in the IOA patch that they're willing to improve the game in relation to competitive (battle ready mark, team preview visibility) and with the clusterfuck of legendaries being added to the game soon, I don't think they can ignore dynamax's balance issues.

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Anonymous Mon 31 Aug 2020 11:31:43 No.44687266 Report

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>>44683793
Either that or have Max airstream set up tailwind instead of outright boosted speed as at least tailwind gives a decent speed boost but also has limits and has more ways to counter

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Anonymous Mon 31 Aug 2020 11:34:43 No.44687276 Report

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>>44682383
>nerf it
It's rotten to the core, there is nothing to salvage. Just remove it and forget it ever happened. And DON'T reintroduce Megas, Z moves or another fucking gimmick.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Aug 2020 11:53:30 No.44687353 Report

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My issue with Dynamax has always been that you basically can use it with almost no real cost beyond just the once per battle restriction and any drawback dynamax has (Miss timing, once per battle and only last three turns), Z moves have the almost the same drawback but it also has an additional cost of an item slot (which Dynamax doesn’t have that drawback to keep it in check which leads to bullshit like Dynamax weakness policy) which gave the mechanic a cost to benefit thing which these kinds of mechanics almost always have but Dynamax doesn’t have this aspect at all.

Sure you could say that miss timing the Dynamax can cost you the game or waste its use but you can also miss time a z move (which Z moves have an even tighter margin of error as that can only be used ONCE vs three turns of Dynamax) or even put a mega in a shit situation that causes you to waste the use of those mechanics as well so that argument isn’t something exclusive to Dynamax.

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