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>>44688678
Poke-amie tried to do that, but they also added Super Training during gen 6 so that back-fired. Gen 7 did a better job by removing supar training, but they also made the mons stronger by caring for them, so that depends on how you look at it.
The sad thing is that pokemon games are too formulaic and materialistic to make them into companions. Making perfect powerful teams are encouraged by the community and by the games.
If anything, watching the anime is the best way to show pokemons as companions.

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Anonymous Mon 31 Aug 2020 16:03:22 No.44688992 Report

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>>44688713
He said more like companions, not like tools.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Aug 2020 16:03:46 No.44689000 Report

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Bring back following, riding from lgpe and expand on it
Expand on camping, playing, etc
Bring back pokemon contests so there’s more to do with your bros than just constant battle
Have a home where you can allow them to wander, can play with them, care for them etc to strengthen friendship or boost stats for contests

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Anonymous Mon 31 Aug 2020 16:04:24 No.44689007 Report

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>>44688678
write wholesome stories

please

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Aug 2020 16:06:58 No.44689037 Report

Quoted By: >>44689272 >>44689437

If you haven't bought into the ethos of the series, endemic since Gen I, you're never going to. The fact you call sentient, sapient creatures tools shows how badly you've rejected the games' message.

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Anonymous Mon 31 Aug 2020 16:16:10 No.44689123 Report

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>>44688992
Yes exactly. Walking around with my Pokémon improves my ability to bond with it as a companion and living creature.

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Anonymous Mon 31 Aug 2020 16:29:29 No.44689272 Report

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>>44689037
The game rejects its own message. All the fluff in the world doesn't matter when all the crunch lets you do is battle, battle, battle.

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Anonymous Mon 31 Aug 2020 16:31:36 No.44689286 Report

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Sidequests that get solved by sufficiently high friendship or something.

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Anonymous Mon 31 Aug 2020 16:32:58 No.44689302 Report

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>>44688678
Massive open world with pokemon that can be taken out at any time and perform various interactions on the map

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Anonymous Mon 31 Aug 2020 16:33:53 No.44689309 Report

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>>44689123
Yeah but you compared it to the quintessential tool animal.

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Anonymous Mon 31 Aug 2020 16:46:10 No.44689437 Report

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>>44689037
the stories claims they are sentient but the gameplay encourages treating them like tools.

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Anonymous Mon 31 Aug 2020 16:47:39 No.44689460 Report

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My idea would be to sort of bring back the little journal thing FRLG had that reminded you what you'd done on the previous day, but this time have little random notes about what your party got up to on your journey. Sure it'd be inconsequential but it'd give some flavour.

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Anonymous Mon 31 Aug 2020 16:49:34 No.44689473 Report

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>>44688678
This picture always make me horny for some Bulbasaur sex

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Anonymous Mon 31 Aug 2020 16:51:14 No.44689489 Report

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>>44689302
>Massive open world
pokemon games are already lifeless and boring. why would you want to make it worse?

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Anonymous Mon 31 Aug 2020 16:54:58 No.44689525 Report

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>>44689309
Dogs are more companions than tools now.

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Anonymous Mon 31 Aug 2020 16:55:17 No.44689527 Report

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>>44689460
Mix the journal from FRLG and the photos from HGSS so that way you can go into the journal and see highlights from your adventure.

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Anonymous Mon 31 Aug 2020 16:57:40 No.44689554 Report

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>>44689272
If you mean min-maxing your Pokemon for pvp, that's unrelated to the ethos they're taking about. Besides SwSh gives us ways to getting the competitively ready Pokemon without breeding thanks to mints, bottle caps, ability capsules, and HA capsules which will be added later.

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Anonymous Mon 31 Aug 2020 17:08:38 No.44689640 Report

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>>44689309
If you're arguing that dogs are just a tool to provide companionship then nothing GF can do will make Pokemon as they are now feel like companions.

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Anonymous Mon 31 Aug 2020 17:10:00 No.44689652 Report

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>>44689437
No it doesn't, your biases on how to play video games influences that one. I'm perfectly happy picking the first new shitmon I see and slotting it into my team, I played X with a Delphox with a zero in Sp. Attk. and it didn't bother me in the slightest.
But that's the difference, I bought into the ethos, you didn't.

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Anonymous Mon 31 Aug 2020 18:14:14 No.44690211 Report

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>>44689554
I mean that the game goes on and on about how pokemon aren't just for battling, but the only thing Pokemon games consistently let you do with them is battle.
The virtual pet aspects that would reinforce the fluff, like playing with them or allowing you to have them follow you on the overworld, come and go according to GF's whims and didn't exist in any meaningful way until several generations into the series.

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Anonymous Mon 31 Aug 2020 19:00:10 No.44690667 Report

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>>44690211
In virtually every main game starting with gen 3, there have been other content you can do with your Pokemon that ranges from contests, to sporting to events, to even making movies with them. They explicitly introduced Pokemon amie in gen 6 and expanded or changed some aspects of it and not only can you interact with your Pokemon more, but you can interact with other people's Pokemon and their's and your own can form bonds with one another.

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Anonymous Mon 31 Aug 2020 19:17:05 No.44690844 Report

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>>44688706
Of course.

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Anonymous Mon 31 Aug 2020 19:26:43 No.44690945 Report

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>>44688678
Shut the fuck up about the
>oh (you) did so well in that battle, Anon! (You)'re such a great trainer! (You)r Pokémon must be so happy to have been caught by (you), it's really incredible how easily (you) defeated those gym leaders and earned those badges!
>oh and I guess your Pokémon did pretty good, let me heal IT for you.
Bring in more Tamagotchi stuff. Following Pokémon shouldn't be something the fans should be begging for, it should've been standard since its inception. The whole petting and feeding shit in the 3DS games was a huge step in the right direction. Or how it shows a little heart when your mon does something extra because it loves you.
And this might be an upopular opinion, but I kinda want them to change how evolving works. Because right now it just feels like you're doing these objectives to reach an artifical goal. Rather than with the Pokémon that evolve based on affection. It feels more like natural growth than when you just shove a stone up the Pokémon's asshole.
Also I want to dress my Pokémon up, bros. Cosplay Pikachu was cute as fuck and I want more of this stuff. Could even just be hats, not even cute dresses or whatnot. Just give your Absol cat ear headphones or something, to make it stand out as YOUR companion and not just another generic Absol

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Anonymous Mon 31 Aug 2020 19:32:39 No.44691004 Report

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>>44690945
>Following Pokémon shouldn't be something the fans should be begging for, it should've been standard since its inception.
Or at least since Yellow established precedent for it.

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Anonymous Mon 31 Aug 2020 19:37:50 No.44691055 Report

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>>44689309
We have animals literally deemed "beasts of burden" and yet you say dogs are quintessential animal tool of man?

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Anonymous Mon 31 Aug 2020 19:39:31 No.44691069 Report

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>>44688678
We need more non-battle side quests for our pokemon, maybe randomly generated quest system like Elder Scrolls 2/5 games had.
I would also vote for return of amie from XY in addition to camp. Only i would make the combat bonuses from friendship toggleable in the options for people that might want more pvp-like rules or challenge runs.

Another thing i would really want pokemon games to have is an optional system replacing the releasing pokemon with a chain of events helping pokemon to find a new place or a new trainer. The poke jobs from SwSh might play some part in it, for example. It would add more respect and personality for pokemon you encounter instead of just using and discarding them like tools.

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Anonymous Mon 31 Aug 2020 19:39:51 No.44691071 Report

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>>44691004
Yea, should've clarified I meant since the feature was introduced and not since the inception of the series itself.

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Anonymous Mon 31 Aug 2020 20:05:37 No.44691333 Report

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>>44691004
>Or at least since Yellow established precedent for it
The only thing that was for, was to distinguish Yellow from RGB and to tie it more closely to the anime than the games had been. They did use the friendship value as a test for Gen II and friendship evos, but it wasn't added with the aim of expanding it past just the super speshul Pikachu.

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Anonymous Mon 31 Aug 2020 20:37:30 No.44691659 Report

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>>44691333
He started acting up when he Ash wanted him to throw the match vs a Paras.

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Anonymous Mon 31 Aug 2020 20:39:33 No.44691682 Report

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desu the most low-effort thing possible would just be to expand on the idea of natures and characteristics to go more in-depth and give your pokemon a more proper "personality"

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