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Anonymous Tue 01 Sep 2020 23:08:12 No.44702696 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>44702747 >>44702794 >>44702814 >>44702973

If Pokemon purely used their body parts in battle instead of adding energy, then Guillitone wouldn't just KO a Pokemon, it would straight up kill them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Sep 2020 23:14:24 No.44702743 Report

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How does Guillotine work on something like Muk?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Sep 2020 23:14:36 No.44702747 Report

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>>44702696
goddamn that quality is why you should never stream anime

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Sep 2020 23:20:13 No.44702794 Report

Quoted By: >>44702818 >>44702819 >>44702833 >>44703323 >>44703358 >>44703470 >>44704701 >>44708267

>>44702696
you say that as if it's news. every time a pokemon "faints" it dies. it just says "fainted" because they wanna keep their good ESRB/PEGI
> we live in a pokemon world with the technology to resurrect fossils of pokemon 1000 years dead. the technology needed to revive a pokemon that's been dead for a couple of hours AT MAX is literal child's play, especially given their genetic makeup. as for muscular accuracy and memories, that's all thanks to the pokeball remembering that pokemon's data.
this is also why some pokemon actually like fighting in battles. despite fighting for their lives, they know they'll wake up in the pokemon center. it lets them think they can cheat death while also giving them the satisfaction of thinking they're defending or serving their caregiver.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Sep 2020 23:22:25 No.44702814 Report

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>>44702696
God I hope so

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Sep 2020 23:23:08 No.44702818 Report

Quoted By: >>44702835

>>44702794
No, they literally just faint. And even that doesn't mean much. They're knocked out for a little bit, then wake back up, and need to rest before they can fight again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Sep 2020 23:23:11 No.44702819 Report

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>>44702794
But that's JUST A THEORY

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Sep 2020 23:24:31 No.44702833 Report

Quoted By: >>44702923 >>44703344

>>44702794
>Tajiri: In Japan, violence in games is pretty much self-regulated. In the 1980s, there was a game called Bullfighter where the matador stabbed the bull and red blood squirted out. The day after it was released, they changed the blood to green. There's more violence in games in the U.S., in things like Mortal Kombat, where they rip out hearts and cut off heads. Japanese people wouldn't come up with ideas of blood splattering all over. Japanese focus more on the intricacies of the actions, the motion.

>TIME: The TV people in the U.S. were worried about violence in Pokemon. Can you believe that?

>Tajiri: I'm very careful about violence in games. I'm not interested in creating violent effects.

>TIME: So Japanese game designers aren't making violent games?

>Tajiri: No, they make them. But only to sell in the U.S.

>TIME: Still, American kids like Pok�mon, even without the blood.

>Tajiri: I was really careful in making monsters faint rather than die. I think that young people playing games have an abnormal concept about dying. They start to lose and say, "I'm dying." It's not right for kids to think about a concept of death that way. They need to treat death with more respect.

>TIME: Well, there's a preacher in the U.S. who says Pikachu is the devil.

>Tajiri: I never heard of that! [Laughs] I heard there was a guy who criticized [kid's book character] Harry Potter because of the magic. But I saw the author, and she seemed really nice. The critic seemed like a grouchy mean guy.

That's why Pokemon don't die or get injured in battle. Satoshi Tajiri hates violence and didn't want it in his series.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Sep 2020 23:24:35 No.44702835 Report

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>>44702818
> ~T. Ashnime faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Sep 2020 23:25:47 No.44702846 Report

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>>44702835
That's how it is in the games too. All the Pokemon Center does is speed up the recovery process. They're not dead or unconscious, they're just unable to battle because they're too tired right now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Sep 2020 23:26:57 No.44702859 Report

Quoted By: >>44702867 >>44702908

>>44702846
name one game where you can re-use a pokemon by sitting on your ass and waiting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Sep 2020 23:27:41 No.44702867 Report

Quoted By: >>44702939

>>44702859
Game mechanics aren't canon. Pokemon can recover on their own without needing to go to a Pokemon Center, Game Freak just didn't program this into the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Sep 2020 23:31:30 No.44702908 Report

Quoted By: >>44702926

>>44702859
Do you need to go the hospital after running a marathon? No, all you need is some rest. That's all Pokemon battling is to Pokemon, it's exercise. They don't get hurt, it's just physically exhausting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Sep 2020 23:32:18 No.44702923 Report

Quoted By: >>44702987

>>44702833
>no violence
>in a game where creatures bite, punch, claw, slam, burn, drown, electrocute, slice, crush, mindrape, and blow away

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Sep 2020 23:32:29 No.44702926 Report

Quoted By: >>44702987

>>44702908
> they don't get hurt

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Sep 2020 23:33:31 No.44702939 Report

Quoted By: >>44702958 >>44702970 >>44703569

>>44702867
> game mechanics aren't canon in a franchise built ENTIRELY on the foundation that the games provide them.
what?
pokemon is a game before anything else, ashnime retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Sep 2020 23:35:21 No.44702958 Report

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Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Sep 2020 23:36:22 No.44702970 Report

Quoted By: >>44702993

>>44702939
You're a fucking retard. Some shit is just for gameplay purposes. Like how Pokemon don't really stand still and take turns, that's just an abstract representation of the real battle in which the Pokemon are fighting like they do in the anime.

Gameplay mechanics are not realistic. They don't make any sense outside of gameplay, hence why they're not canon.

Also

>ashnime

Kill yourself for using this retarded term, no one outside of /vp/ uses it because there is no other anime.

Gameplay mechanics are not realistic. They don't make any sense outside of gameplay, hence why they're not canon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Sep 2020 23:36:29 No.44702971 Report

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>>44702958
> hence, why they're canon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Sep 2020 23:36:33 No.44702973 Report

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>>44702696
Well in the wild pokémon need to hunt, so some pokémon moves have the intent to kill the prey. Pokémon is based on Japanese bug fights with a poor "ahah they like fighting" excuse slapped on it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Sep 2020 23:37:25 No.44702987 Report

Quoted By: >>44703007

>>44702923
>>44702926
None of that hurts them. It just exhausts them, and they recover simply by resting for a bit.

H o o k

H o o k Tue 01 Sep 2020 23:38:14 No.44702993 Report

Quoted By: >>44703097 >>44703342

>>44702970
> ashnime faggot is seething
isn't it past your bedtime? come back to veepee when you understand what the franchise is really about.

L i n e

L i n e Tue 01 Sep 2020 23:39:30 No.44703007 Report

Quoted By: >>44703081 >>44703342

>>44702987
> get assblasted six ways from sunday by hyper beam
> get guillotined
> flamethrower
> mega punch
> poison
> electricity
> throwing rocks
meh, I'll just nap it off.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Sep 2020 23:45:48 No.44703081 Report

Quoted By: >>44703324

>>44703007
Yes. Despite all the DBZ-tier energy blasts and explosions that go on in battles, Pokemon is non-violent because no one gets hurt. Getting hit just exhausts them and they temporarily collapse from exhaustion and get back up a few minutes later.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Sep 2020 23:47:31 No.44703097 Report

Quoted By: >>44703332 >>44703336

>>44702993
The franchise is about monsters with magical powers fighting each other in Dragon Ball-esque battles. The official bible for Pokemon canon says they don't die in battle, so kys. Death is uncurable in the Pokemon universe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Sep 2020 00:16:13 No.44703323 Report

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>>44702794
bringing fossils back isn't 'resurrection' you tard
it's just cloning, giving birth to a member of the same species after finding their DNA

& Wed 02 Sep 2020 00:16:16 No.44703324 Report

Quoted By: >>44703342 >>44703355

>>44703081
> more ashnime examples
discarded

S i n k e r

S i n k e r Wed 02 Sep 2020 00:17:18 No.44703332 Report

Quoted By: >>44703342 >>44703344

>>44703097
that's to pass the ESRB/PEGI. we've been over this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Sep 2020 00:17:47 No.44703336 Report

Quoted By: >>44703369 >>44706137

>>44703097
>the blood relation between Kangaskhan and the baby in it's pouch is kept ambiguous
I thought TPC were just greedy businessmen
Now I realise they're all legitimately retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Sep 2020 00:18:19 No.44703342 Report

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>>44702993
>>44703007
>>44703324
>>44703332
i see what you did there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Sep 2020 00:19:12 No.44703344 Report

Quoted By: >>44703357

>>44703332
No, it's not. See:

>>44702833

Pokemon do not die. They just faint from exhaustion, wake up a few minutes later, and need to rest for a while before they can battle again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Sep 2020 00:20:24 No.44703355 Report

Quoted By: >>44703368

>>44703324
The anime is canon, retard. It's supervised by Game Freak, who provide the studio with reference material so that they know how Pokemon act, move, and fight. Without Game Freak working together with them, it'd be impossible for the anime to exist because the studio would know nothing about how anything works.

Did you think they just looked at the designs and made everything else up themselves?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Sep 2020 00:20:50 No.44703357 Report

Quoted By: >>44706238

>>44703344
they say that to pass ESRB. otherwise it wouldn't make any sense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Sep 2020 00:21:04 No.44703358 Report

Quoted By: >>44703378 >>44703414

>>44702794
>PokeSpe has examples of fainting and killing in the first arc
>Tajiri said that PokeSpe best conveyed the world that he was trying to portray
Your headcanon is fucking worthless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Sep 2020 00:21:51 No.44703367 Report

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because pokemon cant show blood or injuries anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Sep 2020 00:21:51 No.44703368 Report

Quoted By: >>44703379

>>44703355
> TEH SHITNIME IS CANON!
thunder armor.
I'll see myself out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Sep 2020 00:21:57 No.44703369 Report

Quoted By: >>44703376

>>44703336
But that's legitimate. It is never explicitly stated that the baby is Kangaskhan's actual blood-related baby. They did this in the Zoroark movie too, it's explicitly stated that Zoroark isn't Zorua's biological mother, she just adopted him.

The only explicit blood relations that are allowed between Pokemon are sibling ones. It can never be explicitly that a Pokemon is a biological offspring/parent of another Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Sep 2020 00:22:45 No.44703376 Report

Quoted By: >>44706133

>>44703369
What about Cubone's mother?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Sep 2020 00:22:53 No.44703378 Report

Quoted By: >>44703468

>>44703358
> PokeSpe
literally what?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Sep 2020 00:22:58 No.44703379 Report

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>>44703368
Thunder Armor is canon. It's their universe, they make the rules.

Unless you can prove that Thunder Armor isn't possible (not being able to do it in the game doesn't count), you have no argument.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Sep 2020 00:27:04 No.44703414 Report

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>>44703358
That's not what Tajiri actually said.

https://web.archive.org/web/20021215144736/www.vizkids.com/pokemon/adventures/characters.html

What he actually said was:

>"This is the comic that most resembles the world I was trying to convey".

He was comparing it to other Pokemon manga like the gag manga with the talking Clefairy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Sep 2020 00:33:38 No.44703468 Report

Quoted By: >>44703489

>>44703378
The Canon Manga that came out months before the Anime

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Sep 2020 00:33:41 No.44703470 Report

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>>44702794
Then why can a fainted pokemon use HM moves?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Sep 2020 00:35:55 No.44703489 Report

Quoted By: >>44704672

>>44703468
PokeSpe deviates from the games far more than the anime does.

The anime is a straightforward adaptation of the games, PokeSpe is essentially just licensed fanfiction.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Sep 2020 00:42:19 No.44703569 Report

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>>44702939
I guess walking in a grid was completely canon before Gen 7.
since, y'know, all gameplay mechanics are canon now

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Sep 2020 00:43:29 No.44703582 Report

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>acting as if pokemon was ever consistent

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Sep 2020 02:47:44 No.44704672 Report

Quoted By: >>44704737

>>44703489
It is way closer to the games, pokespe uses more in-game locations and events, even some battle mechanics that are not in the anime are sometimes shown(pp).

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Sep 2020 02:50:50 No.44704701 Report

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>>44702794
AAAHHH

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Sep 2020 02:55:13 No.44704737 Report

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>>44704672
PP is a game mechanic that can't really be adapted into real battles. The anime has it right by having Pokemon get visibly exhausted over the course of the battle, or from using the same move and over again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Sep 2020 06:52:25 No.44706133 Report

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>>44703376
*cubone's adopted mother

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Sep 2020 06:53:34 No.44706137 Report

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>>44703336
at this point im convinced that they are the same animal with two heads not a pouched marsupial carrying it's young.

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Anonymous Wed 02 Sep 2020 07:06:06 No.44706214 Report

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Worth mentioning that the Japanese term for the fainted status condition is "dying". It's pretty much the family-friendly version of how downed party members die in other JRPGs like Dragon Quest, and also explains how the party can still use field moves even after they're knocked out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Sep 2020 07:09:28 No.44706238 Report

Quoted By: >>44708344

>>44703357
Fainted Pokémon can use HM skills, retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Sep 2020 14:28:00 No.44708267 Report

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>>44702794
so you're telling me that pokemon world has found a way to cheat death?
yeah no fuck off

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Sep 2020 14:38:04 No.44708344 Report

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>>44706238
When you try to use a fainted Pokemon in battle, it says "[Pokemon] has no energy left to battle!"

They're out of energy, not dead.

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