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>>44708573
It's still shit, getting 1 good attacking move doesn't fix its core flaws of being weak to the most common attacking types and being slow as fuck

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Anonymous Wed 02 Sep 2020 15:35:07 No.44708825 Report

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>>44708692
>Retard
According to you, why?

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Anonymous Wed 02 Sep 2020 15:39:05 No.44708869 Report

Quoted By: >>44709671 >>44709708

>>44708692
80 BP non stab (on most pokemon that get it) isn’t good retard

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Anonymous Wed 02 Sep 2020 15:42:01 No.44708887 Report

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>>44708573
no recovery, still an awful defensive typing. stakataka apparently will get body press which at least means it doesn't have to use superpower for ferrothorn but also doesn't synergize well with going for attack beast boost because you need to drop your defense stat

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Anonymous Wed 02 Sep 2020 15:45:30 No.44708912 Report

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>>44708573
Look at what other Steel/Rock types needed to be successful. Aggron wasn't going anywhere with a nuke like Head Smash, and needed to drop Rock Head and the Rock typing for pure Steel and Filter. Stakataka has Trick Room, Gyro Ball plus Beast Boost to make up for being slow and requiring immediacy in boosting.
Bastiodon needs more than Body Press for just the bare minimum of being good. I don't think even Solid Rock on top of Body Press is quite there either.

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Anonymous Wed 02 Sep 2020 15:47:20 No.44708934 Report

Quoted By: >>44709188 >>44709773

>+1 252+ Def Zamazenta-Crowned Body Press vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Torterra: 109-129 (27.7 - 32.8%) -- 75.3% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
>252 Atk Zamazenta-Crowned Behemoth Bash vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Torterra: 114-135 (29 - 34.3%) -- 99.7% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
Honest question what is Zamazenta used for? She has nothing to set-up, no weather, no hazzards and not even any good stat boosters, she can't run healing items making her worse bulky attacker, and even then her move pool isn't great.

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Anonymous Wed 02 Sep 2020 16:20:46 No.44709171 Report

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>>44708573
Bastiodon is really cucked, even with body press and a +30BST stat buff, it would barely be used in PU

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Anonymous Wed 02 Sep 2020 16:24:16 No.44709188 Report

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>>44708934
With iron defense, a body press set would be more usable. Zamazenta is one of those pokemon too shit for ubers, and slightly too good for OU

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Anonymous Wed 02 Sep 2020 17:25:46 No.44709671 Report

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>>44708646
>>44708869

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Anonymous Wed 02 Sep 2020 17:30:39 No.44709708 Report

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>>44708869
>>44708646
>80 BP fighting coverage with high power investment on completely defensive Pokemon is bad
You are genuinely retarded.

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Anonymous Wed 02 Sep 2020 17:39:12 No.44709773 Report

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>>44708934
>Honest question what is Zamazenta used for?
For CT when it will get a GMax forme that has something completely broken like boosting it and its partner's DEF twice.
Then still getting outclassed by Zacian when Zacian's Gmax forme boosts ATK twice.

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Anonymous Wed 02 Sep 2020 17:50:52 No.44709866 Report

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>>44709773
>Zamazenta is banned from VGC
>Dyna/G/Eternamax is banned from Smogon
>Nobody plays anything else
Hhmmm...

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Anonymous Wed 02 Sep 2020 18:53:43 No.44710424 Report

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>>44709708
It isn’t terrible, but it isn’t as good as some people make it out to be.

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Anonymous Wed 02 Sep 2020 19:01:30 No.44710483 Report

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>>44709708
it's a good move, but it could be 200bp and still not fix shitmons like bastiodon

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