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Anonymous Sun 13 Sep 2020 21:55:01 No.44820573 View View Reply Original Report

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>first time a grass pokemon reaches the very top in competitive scene
>Gamefreak issues a ban list
>but Incineroar being the top for the whole USUM meta was fine
thanks Gamefreak, very cool

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Sep 2020 21:55:22 No.44820578 Report

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>>44820573
Ok

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Sep 2020 21:56:35 No.44820588 Report

Quoted By: >>44820652 >>44821419 >>44824064

It's not a ban list. It's a restriction for a single season of Ranked. USUM quite literally did the same thing some times for fun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Sep 2020 22:03:14 No.44820652 Report

Quoted By: >>44820941 >>44824064

>>44820588
what's with this cope?
it's a ban list
being temporary doesn't matter

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Sep 2020 22:03:34 No.44820654 Report

Quoted By: >>44823931

>>44820573
Oh no gorilla Bros, we got too cocky.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Sep 2020 22:04:24 No.44820666 Report

Quoted By: >>44823902

>>44820573
Please understand, we only like fursonas and furries and other degenerates. if you like grass types over our furbaits then fuck you haha XD

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Sep 2020 22:36:41 No.44820904 Report

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>>44820573
>culls pokemon
>still can't balance
SMALL INDIE COMPANY

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Sep 2020 22:38:39 No.44820918 Report

Quoted By: >>44821016 >>44821916

>>44820573
>What is Mega Venusaur
>What is HA Serperior
>What is OP's remaining brain cell dissolving into nothing

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Sep 2020 22:42:23 No.44820941 Report

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>>44820652
because they did the same think last time you retard, yet OP is too stupid to realize that

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Sep 2020 22:52:53 No.44821016 Report

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>>44820918
Neither were the most used pokemon in any meta

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Sep 2020 23:49:43 No.44821406 Report

Quoted By: >>44821413 >>44821456 >>44824148 >>44826987

>>44820573
I bet game freak was seething over Rillaboom being better than Shillbunny in the official meta. I'm sure it'll get some kind of extreme nerf next gen

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Sep 2020 23:50:37 No.44821413 Report

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>>44821406
they will completely remove it with Venusaur just like how they removed Greninja because it won 2 popularity polls and Charizard didn't

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Sep 2020 23:51:05 No.44821419 Report

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>>44820588
So literally a banlist

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 13 Sep 2020 23:53:18 No.44821441 Report

Quoted By: >>44821460

>>44820573
Looks like someone forgot the OG grass type

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Sep 2020 23:54:30 No.44821456 Report

Quoted By: >>44830148

>>44821406
Didn't Ace get banned too?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Sep 2020 23:54:44 No.44821460 Report

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>>44821441
I like Ferrothorn but it's only high tier in Singles aka the fanfic meta.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Sep 2020 23:56:44 No.44821478 Report

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>>44821460
>Smogon is fanfic meta
How many times do you think you say that a week?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Sep 2020 00:01:01 No.44821516 Report

Quoted By: >>44821534

>>44820573
>Literally have to combine scarcity of terrain setters, instant terrain, priority stab that isn't sub 60 and an overabundance of good water types
Yea, it's only there because of the dex cut. Once we get more terrain it'll turn back to being shit like the type it belongs to. The only real grass types are those with accurate status moves.
>seven offensive resistances

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Anonymous Mon 14 Sep 2020 00:02:54 No.44821534 Report

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>>44821516
>weaknesses bad
imagine getting filtered in a children game lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Sep 2020 00:07:05 No.44821566 Report

Quoted By: >>44821588

>>44821534
Imagine not being able to read.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Sep 2020 00:07:39 No.44821577 Report

Quoted By: >>44827001

>>44821460
Just because doubles can never extend infinitely because of a more balanced gameplay doesnt mean killing singles and betting everything on doubles was the right choice. Im not going to discuss the gameplay, but not working on balancing singles was the lazy, easy, quick and comfiest solution.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Sep 2020 00:08:47 No.44821588 Report

Quoted By: >>44821657

>>44821566
>Once we get more terrain it'll turn back to being shit like the type it belongs to
>seven offensive resistances
next you will tell me that you were pretending to be a brainlet

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Sep 2020 00:15:47 No.44821657 Report

Quoted By: >>44821676 >>44827043

>>44821588
You probably can't remember the last time an offensive grass move was used and had actual effect outside of the monkey.

Kartana, like all UBs, has some insane spread so it doesn't matter as much if one of its stab is weak. Ludicolo has water stab which is just grass stab but better (and if you want to hit water you likely have a rain partner with thunder). Amoonguss proves my point, thank you very much and Venusaur needs to run poison and ground moves for coverage otherwise it's a defensive set.

Next you'll try and say you didn't read.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Sep 2020 00:17:40 No.44821676 Report

Quoted By: >>44821735 >>44824721

>>44821657
>DUDE GRASS TYPE IS SHIT EXCEPT WHEN THESE SPECIFIC POKEMON USE SPECIFIC STRATEGIES LOLOLOL

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Sep 2020 00:25:34 No.44821735 Report

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>>44821676
>seven offensive resistances
>Clearly speaking about offensive moves
>monkey is an offensive grass type
Might as well have said you can't read.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Sep 2020 00:44:02 No.44821916 Report

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>>44820918
Garbage in the official format

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Sep 2020 00:45:35 No.44821931 Report

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>>44821460
It's still very much alive in VGC

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Sep 2020 01:26:32 No.44822324 Report

Quoted By: >>44823921

>antigrassfags
How old are these guys, and why do these fucking plants bother them so much

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Sep 2020 04:50:58 No.44823902 Report

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>>44820666
Why is he never happy?????? Why is the saddest nip around in control?????

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Sep 2020 04:52:15 No.44823911 Report

Quoted By: >>44824813 >>44824845

>>44820573
GF is afraid it'll detract from the popularity of the gen's true shillmon, Inteleon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Sep 2020 04:53:11 No.44823919 Report

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>Tamke monke
>piut greem on it
>grass

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Sep 2020 04:53:52 No.44823921 Report

Quoted By: >>44825072

>>44822324
I don't get why antigrassfags even exist on here. It's not like it's a super popular type like Fire or Dragon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Sep 2020 04:55:04 No.44823930 Report

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>>44820573
He's usable in the Player's Cup II qualifier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Sep 2020 04:55:13 No.44823931 Report

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>>44820654
Understandable so, we kept winning

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Sep 2020 05:20:23 No.44824064 Report

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>>44820652
>>44820588
>>44820573
I think the reasoning behind the ban is independent to the fact that OP is upset that there was a ban list. Yes it's a gimmick and has nothing to do with actual balance, but does that change the fact that Rilla got banned just as there was a meta where grass isn't shit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Sep 2020 05:36:45 No.44824148 Report

Quoted By: >>44827528

>>44821406
They already nerfed terrains and his movepool, what else could they do, add a new type that resists grass?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Sep 2020 07:44:31 No.44824721 Report

Quoted By: >>44827252 >>44827625

>>44821676
Yes, grass types are only good despite their types, not because of them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Sep 2020 08:06:59 No.44824813 Report

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>>44823911
*pukes*

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Sep 2020 08:13:22 No.44824845 Report

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>>44823911
No way it seems Cinderace is getting the spotlight. Too bad for inteleon though, the other starters are literally top tier rn

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Sep 2020 08:22:50 No.44824890 Report

Quoted By: >>44829940 >>44829951

>>44820573
Why do Rillaboomfags have such a victim complex? Holy fuck.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 14 Sep 2020 08:34:07 No.44824952 Report

Quoted By: >>44825046

>Incineroar
>simple and reliable HA, depended on for defense and typing and utility movepool than pure offense
>keeps the meta healthy

>Rillaboom
>needed a snowflake HA that belongs to a legendary and a move tailored to said HA, making it a huge nuisance
>is threatened, countered, and crippled by the tiger mask of healthy meta

In the end, Incineroar was banned for simply doing its job. All the cult-like hate clubs that spawned once its design was leaked eventually bowed down, apologizing and crying and begging it to protect them from the gorilla, and they’ll do so again once the Tapu menace come back. The poor thing just can’t seem to get a break.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Sep 2020 08:47:43 No.44825046 Report

Quoted By: >>44825096 >>44825805 >>44829772

>>44824952
You Incineroar cultists always sound so goddamn gay, the way you always talk about him like he's some kind of unlikely legendary hero. He is a good mon though, and he and Rilla are bros, they'll hold back the Tapus together.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Sep 2020 08:51:28 No.44825072 Report

Quoted By: >>44825955 >>44833675

>>44823921
Mostly Incelroar and Rabbitfags still seething because Rillaboom was the best of this gen

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Sep 2020 08:56:50 No.44825096 Report

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>>44825046
honestly the mon deserves it.
constant shit post and lives rent free for the longest time in peoples heads ever since the thing was leaked

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Sep 2020 09:08:59 No.44825164 Report

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Glad he's banned desu
I prefer the variety of grass types we're seeing now to Rillaboom every game

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Sep 2020 11:05:00 No.44825805 Report

Quoted By: >>44826071

>>44825046
Incineroar is a heel.
He's meant to be hated, which means contratians will love him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Sep 2020 11:31:06 No.44825955 Report

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>>44825072
Nah its mostly just rabbitfags, In many cases Incinaroar and Rillaboom complements each really well and I’ve seen more Incinaroar and Rillaboom fags working together and respecting each other.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Sep 2020 11:47:28 No.44826071 Report

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>>44825805
Heels can be loved for their infamy, stop thinking it’s contrarianism.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Sep 2020 11:49:10 No.44826079 Report

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>>44820573
he's back in the players cup though... grass chads keep winning

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Sep 2020 12:09:34 No.44826185 Report

Quoted By: >>44833380

>>44820573
Reminder that Grass should not be weak to Flying

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Sep 2020 13:45:07 No.44826706 Report

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>>44821460
Heres your (You)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Sep 2020 14:35:22 No.44826987 Report

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>>44821406
What is this cope?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Sep 2020 14:37:28 No.44827001 Report

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>>44821577
>killing singles and betting everything on doubles was the right choice.
Good thing they didn’t

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Sep 2020 14:43:40 No.44827043 Report

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>>44821657
>Ludicolo has water stab which is just grass stab but better (and if you want to hit water you likely have a rain partner with thunder).
Man you really didn’t play the game did you

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Sep 2020 15:18:11 No.44827252 Report

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>>44824721
">"Moving the goalpost

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Sep 2020 15:56:29 No.44827508 Report

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>>44820573
> Celebi

> Celesteela

> Tapu Bulu

> Kartana

> Ferrothorn

Yep. First time any Grass-type has been top-tier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Sep 2020 15:58:51 No.44827528 Report

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>>44824148
>add a new type that resists grass?
any suggestions? outside of smoke

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Sep 2020 15:59:10 No.44827533 Report

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>>44820573
...anon you couldn't literally use incineroar in one of the seasons because they banned everything but legendaries

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Sep 2020 16:00:40 No.44827547 Report

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>playing competitively on a children's game

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Sep 2020 16:12:59 No.44827625 Report

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>>44824721
*grass types are only good by exploiting the tools they only get by being grass types, not because of their defensive weaknesses

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Anonymous Mon 14 Sep 2020 20:44:02 No.44829675 Report

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>>44820573
They also banned Incineroar for a time.

I love Rillaboom to bits anon, but I'm pretty confident that he has nothing to do with Series 6 existing and he wasn't singled out as problematic. He's just banned because he's in the top ten ranking along with the rest of the mons who got the axe, such as Cinderace. If GF was really being biased, they'd have only banned Rillaboom and not Cinderace.

Frankly I'd take it as a badge of honor that Rillaboom was so popular (whether out of love or just his power) that he was one of the sixteen pokemon who made it into the "Banned for S6" category. He's having a good run.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Sep 2020 20:54:22 No.44829772 Report

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>>44825046
You haters have serious fucking issues, you went full sperg mode for two years prior to smash, so quietly shut the fuck up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Sep 2020 21:10:45 No.44829940 Report

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>>44824890
The gorillafag cries out as he strikes you

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Sep 2020 21:12:08 No.44829951 Report

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>>44824890
It's not all of them, just some of them. Like how some Incineroarfags have victim complexes but others proudly display his accomplishments.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Sep 2020 21:16:12 No.44829990 Report

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>>44821460
People use ferro in doubles tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Sep 2020 21:33:33 No.44830148 Report

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>>44821456
Shhhh, don't mess with the narrative.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Sep 2020 21:38:55 No.44830185 Report

Quoted By: >>44831828 >>44833110

Rillaboom is extremely minmaxed compared to starters from pretty much any gen since 3.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Sep 2020 00:47:31 No.44831828 Report

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>>44830185
Maybe compared to other starters, but Rillaboom's stats are fairly balanced compared to other competitively viable mons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Sep 2020 03:52:21 No.44833110 Report

Quoted By: >>44833203

>>44830185
I wonder why that is. Why starters are trending toward more extreme stat distributions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Sep 2020 04:03:09 No.44833203 Report

Quoted By: >>44833367 >>44833616

>>44833110
Probably because of how powerful Greninja became with Protean (and Ash-Gren). GF sees that power and is now consciously trying to make their starters very strong in the hope that it further increases their popularity, even for as little as competitive matters to most players. I bet they overestimated Sniper shenanigans and thought that Inteleon would actually be stronger than it is too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Sep 2020 04:23:17 No.44833367 Report

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Why is OP retarded?
>>44833203
It boggles me why they didn't give Inteleon Protean instead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Sep 2020 04:24:41 No.44833380 Report

Quoted By: >>44833658

>>44826185
The weakness makes sense though. Things like hurricanes and tornadoes easily rip trees apart. The only weakness that doesn't really make much sense is Poison since most plants contain natural toxins.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Sep 2020 04:56:11 No.44833616 Report

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>>44833203
Nah, I think they very clearly wanted Cinderace to be the best of the three.
I really do wish I could've seen their faces when they found out Rillaboom was the one getting used the most in VGC.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Sep 2020 04:59:30 No.44833658 Report

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>>44833380
Only the really sturdy trees.
Most plants actually deal with hurricanes and tornadoes just fine because they're bendy and flexible.
Also, flying doesn't really embody wind for the most part. It's mostly bird stuff and emphasis on being up in the air, with only a couple of wind moves sprinkled in. Gust wasn't even a flying type move in gen 1.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Sep 2020 05:01:19 No.44833675 Report

Quoted By: >>44833735

>>44825072
uninvested Incineroar shit on gorilla with a one flare blitz

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Sep 2020 05:08:23 No.44833735 Report

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>>44833675
Being able to win a 1v1 matchup in a vacuum doesn't make it more viable in general.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Sep 2020 07:14:06 No.44834493 Report

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>>44820573
To be fair, how many types have been the very top in competitive?
Fire, Dark, Electric, Fairy, Steel, Psychic, Ground, Flying, Dragon, Water...
Hell, a grass mon was top tier in VGC 2009. Ludicolo.

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