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ITT:best gamefreak canon teams for protagonists

Anonymous Wed 16 Sep 2020 04:30:29 No.44843238 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>44843250 >>44843417 >>44843474 >>44846851 >>44849617 >>44849669 >>44850448

no giftmon or intractable mon autism.Teams only approved by gamefreak so appearing in games or promotional material.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Sep 2020 04:33:13 No.44843250 Report

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>>44843238
Red
>lucario
>zoroark
>greninja
>dusk lycanroc
>zeraora
>cinderace
This is canon btw

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Sep 2020 05:03:51 No.44843375 Report

Quoted By: >>44843444 >>44843724 >>44843781 >>44850647 >>44851865

>Red: Charizard, Jolteon, Lapras, Dodrio, Persian, Scyther
>Ethan: Typhlosion, Umbreon, Gyarados, Dragonite, Smeargle, Scizor
>Lyra: Meganium, Espeon, Azumarill, Togekiss, Wigglytuff, Misdreavus
>Brendan: Sceptile, Swellow, Hariyama, Aggron, Sharpedo, Magcargo
>May: Swampert, Altaria, Exploud, Claydol, Camerupt, Breloom
>Calem: Greninja, Charizard, Hawlucha, Tyrantrum, Lucario, Meowstic
>Serena: Delphox, Blastoise, Florges, Aurorus, Pangoro, Meowstic
>Chase: Pikachu, Venusaur, Poliwrath, Nidoking, Arcanine, Aerodactyl
>Victor: Cinderace, Corviknight, Boltund, Drednaw, Eldegoss, Sirfetchd
>Gloria: Inteleon, Dubwool, Centiskorch, Duraludon, Alcremie, Rapidash
(Not like it matters anyway because SWSH are the single worst plot and games out of the whole series..)
I know you said no gift faggotry but some of it is obvious.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 16 Sep 2020 05:13:36 No.44843417 Report

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>>44843238
All I know is that Ray's canon starter is Decidueye

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Sep 2020 05:19:45 No.44843444 Report

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>>44843375
>>>>>>>May not Blaziken

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Sep 2020 05:23:46 No.44843474 Report

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>>44843238
I actually tried figuring this out of curiosity and it doesn't really work. There's a lot of contradictory art or just stuff that doesn't make sense, like May having an Audino

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 16 Sep 2020 05:58:24 No.44843604 Report

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Trying to figure out Hilbert / Hilda's team, by looking at what Cheren and Bianca have and finding things that match.

>Cheren
-Liepard (early-game crittermon)
-Elemental Monkey
-Unfezant (early-ish, moderately powerful)
-Gigalith (powerful, added for postgame rematch)
-Haxorus (powerful late-game 3 stage pokemon)
-Starter

>Bianca
-Stoutland (early-game crittermon)
-Elemental Monkey
-Musharna (early-ish, moderately powerful)
-Mienshao (Powerful, added for postgame rematch)
-Chandelure (powerful late-game 3 stage pokemon)
-Starter

So, for Hilda/Hilbert
-early-game crittermon (Zebstrika? Watchog?)
-Elemental Monkey
-Early-ish, moderately powerful pokemon (Swoobat? Excadrill?)
-Powerful pokemon that's added later on (Lots of variety here)
-Powerful late-game 3 stage pokemon (Eelektross and Klinklang are both close to Chandelure / Haxorus in the pokedex order)
-Starter

How would /vp/ fill it out?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 16 Sep 2020 06:00:27 No.44843617 Report

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>>44843444
Sugimori art for RS implied Mudkip, then the Pokemon Company doubled down on Mudkip for that figurine.
For Brendan it was Torchic for RSE, Treecko for ORAS

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 16 Sep 2020 06:06:56 No.44843640 Report

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>>44843604
>early-game "crittermon"
Zorua
Hilbert has a Darmanitan while Hilda uses Axew/Haxorus, probably that second-last slot in your criteria list
The legendary dragon is their "postgame powerful Pokemon" lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Sep 2020 06:10:57 No.44843651 Report

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>>44843640
Sound choices, anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Sep 2020 06:20:27 No.44843695 Report

Quoted By: >>44846251

>>44843640
>Zorua
>Early game

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Sep 2020 06:28:52 No.44843724 Report

Quoted By: >>44846161

>>44843375
>Dat random autistic dig at Swooshie
Rent free isn't a meme i see

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Sep 2020 06:42:09 No.44843781 Report

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>>44843375
>I know you said no gift faggotry
>gives them giftmons anyway
Based retard

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 16 Sep 2020 06:57:26 No.44843860 Report

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>>44843617
This Sugimori art has Torchic, the ORAS animated trailer gives her Blaziken(but I recall she had Swampert as well)
And yeah, I know you guys don't wanna count side media but lets not kid ourselves, the most popular side media influnces the perception of the character, which might make its way back into game canon, see Red having all 3 starters and Pikachu, then swapping Espeon for Lapras in HGSS. May's two most noteworthy counterparts both use the Torchic line, and like my first two examples point out, it's not like she's adamantly or exclusively seen with Mudkip.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Sep 2020 07:33:03 No.44844060 Report

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>>44843860
>the most popular side media influnces the perception of the character
For fans, sure, but not the devs. GameFreak bias > fan popularity when talking about "canon". For example, take Red in Let's Go having Venusaur despite most media and fans pairing him up with Charmander.
With your own Red example with the starters and Pikachu, sure, that might be an anime influence (because of Yellow deriving from the anime and having that selection, not because the anime directly influenced GS), but the Espeon and Lapras swap can easily just be a change to
a) make Red only use mons from the original 151
b) take advantage of Hail + Blizzard for that battle
Ash having a Lapras seems like a coincidental connection, considering how minor Lapras was in the anime.
Going back to May, when talking about the games at best you can say that May is just not paired with Treecko ever, just like how the USUM boy is shown with Decidueye and Incineroar but not Primarina.
>May's two most noteworthy counterparts
Let's be real here the only side media anyone cares about is the anime, and Pokemon Adventures doesn't really have anything special in regards to pairing the main characters and starters besides Red and Green following GameFreak, because from every arc onwards they've just been rotating the types of the starters for the character's roles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Sep 2020 13:09:00 No.44846161 Report

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>>44844060
They distinguish OG Red from Modern Red, though. OG Red is the one with Venusaur.
>>44843724
Cope
>>44843781
There's a difference between giving a couple of scripted mons that make sense and stretching things so hard to fit some autistic gift requirement that doesn't exist

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Sep 2020 13:23:37 No.44846251 Report

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>>44843695
Yep, castelia city

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Sep 2020 14:43:25 No.44846834 Report

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>>44843417
Who the hell is Ray. That's Elio with his canon starter incineCHAD. Cope Owlcuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Sep 2020 14:46:36 No.44846851 Report

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>>44843238
Literally any combination of 6 pokemon realistically catchable during a playthrough, that's the whole point of the series.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Sep 2020 15:12:49 No.44847026 Report

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>>44846251
>Castelia city is as early as route fucking 1

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 16 Sep 2020 15:24:44 No.44847108 Report

Quoted By: >>44849325 >>44850508

>>44846834
You're mixing up the names with the Sun/Moon guy. I'm not even joking, TPC changed the names of the main characters for Ultra Sun/Moon to Ray and Ailey to reflect that they're in an alternate universe

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Sep 2020 15:58:34 No.44847424 Report

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>>44846851
Thanks for missing the point of the discussion

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Sep 2020 19:19:51 No.44849325 Report

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>>44847108
but the art above is for Rainbow Rocket

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Sep 2020 19:49:15 No.44849617 Report

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>>44843238
It really does seem like Gen 7's protagonist uses Incineroar, based on official art and I think getting the most promo material of the trio.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Sep 2020 19:52:14 No.44849641 Report

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>>44849325
Yes, and to distinguish between the Ultra universes Elio/Selene were turned into Ray/Ailey.
It's the same reason why Mohn's shirt changed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Sep 2020 19:55:42 No.44849669 Report

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>>44843238
>no gift mom autism
>he posts an official team with a starter, event giftmon, trademon most people got, and an evolution of a giftmon for USUM’s new mechanic
uh huh

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Sep 2020 20:00:06 No.44849703 Report

Quoted By: >>44850467

Victor
>Cinderace, Sirfetch’d, Toxtricity-A, Corviknight, Grimmsnarl, Duraludon

Gloria
>Inteleon, Dubwool, Alcremie, Toxtricity-L, Hatterene, Frosmoth

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Sep 2020 20:07:12 No.44849755 Report

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>>44843417
>STILL can't help but look at dulse's crotch
gosh why am i a pervert

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Sep 2020 21:29:49 No.44850448 Report

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>>44843238
>canon
>existing
There is no canon you fucking retarded autist

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Sep 2020 21:31:59 No.44850467 Report

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>>44849703
This, except Gloria has Sobble instead of Inteleon because she keeps it unevolved to stay cute instead of hideous

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Sep 2020 21:37:30 No.44850508 Report

Quoted By: >>44852737

>>44847108
>TPC changed the names of the main characters for Ultra Sun/Moon to Ray and Ailey to reflect that they're in an alternate universe
Source?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Sep 2020 21:56:11 No.44850647 Report

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>>44843375
the problem here in hoenn is that blaziken is (unfortunately) the canon starter.
wally's only starter type pokemon is the grass-type roserade. in order to have each rival have a different type, you need to pick blaziken, and it doesn't help that torchic is in the title sequence of emerald.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Sep 2020 21:59:01 No.44850665 Report

Quoted By: >>44850731

tHE PROBLEM HERE IS THAT Y'ALL A BUNCHA FAGGOTS WHO ARE MOR CONCERNED WITH THE "CANON TEAMS" OF THE PROTAGONISTS, WHEN YOU should BE FINDING THE ALGORITHM FOR YOUR OWN personal CANON TEAM.
i ALREADY HAVE, & i'VE NEVER BEEN HAPPIER WITH MYSELF.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Sep 2020 22:10:59 No.44850731 Report

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>>44850665
Yes, you are so happy you're basically screaming it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Sep 2020 00:53:55 No.44851865 Report

Quoted By: >>44851982

>>44843375
Can you explain some of these?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Sep 2020 01:13:06 No.44851982 Report

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>>44851865
Looks like:
>Origins Red
>Ethan parallels to Red
Umbreon - Parallel to Red's original Espeon
Smeargle/Scizor - Sugimori Art from the Ruins of Alph
>Brendan
Sceptile - like the ORAS trailer/Generations
Swellow - NPC Brendan has it
Hariyama - Iconic Hoenn fighting type that would parallel Norman's Slaking
Aggron - Anime Brendan had one from a movie, could symbolify meeting Steven at Dewford
Magcargo - NPC Brendan has one
Sharpedo - Brendan = Ruby version = Fighting Team Magma, Sharpedo fills the slot and symbolizes helping Aqua out
>May
Swampert - ORAS Trailer / Figma / Masters
Altaria - ORAS Trailer / Symbolify meeting Lisia
Exploud - Parallel to Norman's Slaking, NPC May has one.
Claydol - NPC May has one.
Breloom - NPC May has one, iconic Hoenn poke that covers grass
Camerupt - Opposite reason Brendan has Sharpedo
>Calem
Greninja/Charizard/Hawlucha - Sugimori Artwork
Meowstic - Masters/NPC Calem
Tyrantrum - NPC Calem technically takes the other fossil you don't take. Can be assumed they own it and Tyrantrum fits X thematically.
Lucario - Story beat
>Serena
Delphox/Blastoise/Florges - Sugimori Artwork
Meowstic - NPC Serena
Aurorus - Opposite of Calem's Tyrantrum
Pangoro - Anime Serena
>Chase
Pikachu - Because male MC is for first version only I guess
Venusaur, Poliwrath, Aerodactyl - Let's Go seems to be inspired by the manga. It's also an isekai universe so we can headcanon that Chase is just an adventurescuck
Arcanine - Rewarded for catching Growlithe by getting a Persian, but Growlithe is PE exclusive so it makes more sense
Nidoking - Shown in the LGPE trailer
That's all I got. Lyra looks like a weird mish-mash of Kris/Marina's teams and Lyra from Masters. I like it.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 17 Sep 2020 02:50:56 No.44852737 Report

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>>44850508
The website and trailers for USUM had a bunch of screenshots with those names. Keep in mind that the website and trailers are how we got the names Elio and Selene in the first place.

And before someone says those are "placeholder names and not official" because of the JP names clearly being placeholders or whatever, that only applies up to Gen 6. For Gen 7 onwards, the JP material started giving real names too, which is how we got Chase, Elaine, and Trace, as well as Victor and Gloria.

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