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Anonymous Sun 27 Sep 2020 05:21:22 No.44941886 View View Reply Original Report

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What was their thought process? Who thought Slow Start was okay? HOW DO WE FIX MY BOY

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Sep 2020 05:21:55 No.44941893 Report

Quoted By: >>44941897

>>44941886
Traunt like Slaking

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Sep 2020 05:21:59 No.44941895 Report

Quoted By: >>44941904 >>44946148

if you don't like slow start then you don't like the pokemon. slow start is the entire point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Sep 2020 05:22:33 No.44941897 Report

Quoted By: >>44941980 >>44942036 >>44946197 >>44946769

>>44941893
Truant sucks too though. Slaking and Gigas don't have high enough stat totals to warrant such a crippling ability

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 27 Sep 2020 05:22:54 No.44941901 Report

Quoted By: >>44943859

nothing to fix he's perfect

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Sep 2020 05:23:35 No.44941904 Report

Quoted By: >>44943401

>>44941895
slow start makes no god damn sense. I don't think I've ever had the same pokemon out for 5 turns at a time

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Sep 2020 05:24:08 No.44941907 Report

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>>44941886
Also why did they make Crush Grip that way? Slow start might not have been as bad if Crush Grip made it easier to escape. Hell, just not resetting slow start when it switches would have been something to work with.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Sep 2020 05:24:38 No.44941910 Report

Quoted By: >>44942072 >>44952269

>>44941886
Just use Worry Sneed on her

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Sep 2020 05:26:13 No.44941920 Report

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>>44941886
It’s because they don’t give a shit about competitive viability and never have. It’s meant to be a lore based ability.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Sep 2020 05:27:42 No.44941932 Report

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make it double his attack and speed after 5 turns. Change it from something crippling to something amazing

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Anonymous Sun 27 Sep 2020 05:36:40 No.44941980 Report

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>>44941897
>Slaking and Gigas don't have high enough stat totals

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Sep 2020 05:48:34 No.44942036 Report

Quoted By: >>44942041

>>44941897
Slaking does, but Gigas doesn't.
>b-b-but they have the same stat total
Gigas is a legendary and a trio master at that. Slaking is just a regular mon that you catch in a forest.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Sep 2020 05:49:19 No.44942041 Report

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>>44942036
You can't catch Slaking in the wild though

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 27 Sep 2020 05:54:43 No.44942067 Report

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>>44942041
Proven WRONG motherfucker.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Sep 2020 05:55:50 No.44942071 Report

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>>44942067
huh, neat

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Sep 2020 05:56:09 No.44942072 Report

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>>44941910
Underrated post

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Sep 2020 07:59:27 No.44942566 Report

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>>44942041
You can catch its pre-evos. Same diff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Sep 2020 08:17:36 No.44942665 Report

Quoted By: >>44946352

>>44941886
Easy....
NEUTRALIZING GAS

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Sep 2020 08:33:27 No.44942756 Report

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>>44941886
Give Regigigas a trick room variant that neutralizes all abilities for 5 turns. There, now Regigigas can use 1 turn to set up and support the team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Sep 2020 08:34:29 No.44942762 Report

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Reginigas

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Sep 2020 08:37:35 No.44942778 Report

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Make slow start not restart after switching out. Give it Rest and Protect and maybe cut the wait to three turns.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Sep 2020 10:06:40 No.44943265 Report

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Give it gorilla tactics

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 27 Sep 2020 10:37:37 No.44943401 Report

Quoted By: >>44943774 >>44944076 >>44947394 >>44950236

>>44941904
>pokemon is bad because I want it to be more useful in competitive

It's an RPG. every single design choice should be made considering worldbuilding first, competitive balancing second. I can't even fathom the mindset that leads you to state otherwise.
This sort of retarded mindset is one of the biggest problems I have with SwSh. Every goddamn Tom, Dick and Harry-mon has an OU stat spread and movepool, even when it makes zero sense in-universe, see pic related.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Sep 2020 10:48:13 No.44943438 Report

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>Clear Body as HA
Fixed

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Sep 2020 12:00:22 No.44943774 Report

Quoted By: >>44944113 >>44944164

>>44943401
NatDex OU is literally just gen 7 with dragapult. Most gen 8 mons suck ass. They just cut most Pokémon so they became good by default

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Sep 2020 12:02:43 No.44943784 Report

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>>44941886
"For five turns, the Pokémon's Speed stat is halved."

Fixed

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Sep 2020 12:02:51 No.44943785 Report

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>>44941886
HIdden Ability like Pressure

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Anonymous Sun 27 Sep 2020 12:16:45 No.44943859 Report

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>>44941901
Regidad art is cute

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Sep 2020 13:17:12 No.44944046 Report

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>>44941886
Make it count turns even if it had to switch out so you're not set back to the stone age. Or the Ice age.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Sep 2020 13:23:50 No.44944076 Report

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>>44943401
You're retarded. Imagine if magic the gathering did the same thing. Oh wait they did and it was fucking dumb.

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Anonymous Sun 27 Sep 2020 13:29:49 No.44944108 Report

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>>44944076

>magic the gathering
>rpg

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Sep 2020 13:31:12 No.44944113 Report

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>>44943774
it just generally seems like there's way more competitively viable pokemon in the latest gens. that might be worse with gen 7 than 8, I don't really know. my point is it's dumb to complain about an ability that makes perfect sense in-universe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Sep 2020 13:38:01 No.44944153 Report

Quoted By: >>44946136

Give him Clear Body you fucking cowards

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Sep 2020 13:39:55 No.44944164 Report

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>>44943774
Lots of the good shit in 7 is legends, megas, pseudos. The quality of regular mons in gen8 is pretty gud.
Corviknight is a common regional bird, and its basically on par with single route rare spawns like skarmory, for example.

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Anonymous Sun 27 Sep 2020 13:44:54 No.44944201 Report

Quoted By: >>44946369

>>44944108
Yes

Even ignoring that, pokemon is obviously focusing more on multiplayer than their single player content ("lore" included) which makes the original point kinda pointless and dumb.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Sep 2020 18:29:42 No.44946136 Report

Quoted By: >>44950242

>>44944153
but then he would be stupid op

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Sep 2020 18:30:59 No.44946148 Report

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>>44941895
I don’t like slow start but I want Regigigas to fuck me

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Sep 2020 18:37:26 No.44946197 Report

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>>44941897
Slaking makes sense as its a normal Pokemon. Regigigas' stats are fine, at best, it'd just be another Uber but nothing insane compared to all the others, even by Gen 4 standards

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Sep 2020 19:01:30 No.44946343 Report

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>>44944076
calm down competitard, you have swooshie now shut up and go play it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Sep 2020 19:03:19 No.44946352 Report

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>>44942665
BRAAAAAP

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Sep 2020 19:05:47 No.44946369 Report

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>>44944201
I didnt know that the card game was based on a game that came out several years after the first set was released
retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Sep 2020 19:58:54 No.44946754 Report

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>>44941886
Buff slow start so that it doubles attack and speed after 5 turns

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Sep 2020 20:01:20 No.44946769 Report

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>>44941897
>. Slaking and Gigas don't have high enough stat totals to warrant such a crippling ability
In retrospect, they do. Sometimes a non-ability like pressure would have been just as goon nowadays

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Sep 2020 21:22:08 No.44947394 Report

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>>44943401
you're the retard
Slow Start could last just 3 turns

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Sep 2020 21:23:57 No.44947410 Report

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>>44941886
Slow Start and Traunt should be combined, make it so that the user’s Attack, Sp Attack, and Speed are cut in half every other turn, but only for that turn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Sep 2020 21:50:33 No.44947612 Report

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>>44941886
just baton pass it some speed and attack bro.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Sep 2020 21:54:33 No.44947650 Report

Quoted By: >>44952532

use it in doubles with some fast mon that can trade its ability or something

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Sep 2020 22:01:14 No.44947714 Report

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>slow starts only halves his speed for 5 turns
>200 hp
Thats the changes i would make

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Sep 2020 00:03:42 No.44948559 Report

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Why do he have Slow Start to begin with anyway?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Sep 2020 00:51:41 No.44948895 Report

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here's a fix
Slow Start
Doubles attacking and speed stats after 5 turns
he just needs a little bit to unleash his full potential

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Sep 2020 00:59:41 No.44948961 Report

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crush grip
120 bp normal type move
physical 5pp
30% chance to flinch

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Sep 2020 01:12:03 No.44949053 Report

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>>44941980
They don't, considering Slaking is in the same tier as a shiiter like Ledian.
They need at least Ultra NEcrozma/Mega Rayquaza-tier BST (preferably Eternamax-tier) to warrant their crippling abilities.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Sep 2020 01:59:02 No.44949396 Report

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Slow Start should be a status condition that can't be healed through berries or Aromatherapy. Then switching out doesn't reset the turn counter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Sep 2020 02:01:46 No.44949414 Report

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>>44941886
>What was their thought process?
"If we make it extremely powerful but nerf some status, it'll be balanced."

>Who thought Slow Start was okay?
Someone who does not play the game, as typical for game developers.

>HOW DO WE FIX MY BOY
Fix Speed being an überstatus first, then you can address Regipoke.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Sep 2020 03:59:13 No.44950236 Report

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>>44943401
>every single design choice should be made considering worldbuilding first, competitive balancing second
But the worldbuilding in Pokemon sucks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Sep 2020 04:00:31 No.44950242 Report

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>>44946136
No he wouldn't be.
He'd be on par with other legendaries in his BST range.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Sep 2020 08:34:54 No.44951787 Report

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>>44941886
Regigigas is a legendary. It should be allowed to be OP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Sep 2020 09:06:14 No.44951912 Report

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>>44941886
Give it Fast Start.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Sep 2020 10:35:30 No.44952269 Report

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>>44941910
Chucks Fuck and Suck

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Anonymous Mon 28 Sep 2020 11:37:10 No.44952532 Report

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>>44947650
>doubles

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Anonymous Mon 28 Sep 2020 11:38:40 No.44952535 Report

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>>44952269

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