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>>44946091 Explain why Audino or Staraptor
Anonymous
>Pokémon should not exist.
Anonymous
>>44942578 I know it is. It really fucking is.
But sadly, Golem came first. I would much rather have Gigalith, but first come first serve.
>>44942450 I can, but you have to ask in a case-by-case basis because there are tons of them.
>If anything, we need more birds (and fish). Why do you think I didn't list as many birds?
Pidgey and other birds already serve the role of many others though.
>>44942208 Explain this meme at once.
>>44942185 Did you not read? I listed Cleffa and mentioned how it is one of my favorite Pokémon.
>>44942166 I appreciate metagames and all that jazz but whatever Staraptor has, it could be given to literally every other bird. It doens't make it special.
>>44943016 They were. Kangaskhan still needs a baby.
>>44942994 Hitmonlee and Hitmonchan already exist. We don't need these Bert and Ernie look-alikes.
Anonymous
Lopunny and only retarded coomers will say otherwise
Anonymous
>>44946091 >Intelligent Discussion Only >-Starly, Staravia, Staraptor >-All Alolan and Galarian formes Nigga plz
Anonymous
>>44946119 THESE Pokémon*
Whoops.
>>44946104 Staraptor: Just a bird and it really brings nothing to table that Pidgey could not have. The same region could have used Pidgey or Swellow.
Audino is literally Chansey. Unova is a massive offender, trying to be a "reboot" of the franchise and just copying and pasting pokemon ideas all nilly-willy.
>>44946127 I mean, an argument could be made about that, but it isn't me who can make it. I am no puritan myself.
>>44946145 Either all pokémon have them, or none do. It's always the same popular ones who get formes.
And what's up wit everybody liking that bird?
>Starly I didn't know it had such a big fanbase.
Anonymous
>>44946126 >I appreciate metagames and all that jazz but whatever Staraptor has, it could be given to literally every other bird. It doens't make it special. You could say this shit about any bird or any Pokemon for that matter.
Explain why you Thanos snapped Staraptor but kept the Pidove family then. What in the utter fuck is so special about what's universally considered the most generic bird family of all time, and why do you believe they could ever do what Staraptor does? I'm listening.
Anonymous
>>44946188 Well, Pidove is no great design or anything. It is just a bird. It has a mildly amusing wordplay in it's Japanese design, and considering Unova is based on USA and Pidove being a pigeon (one of the most urban animals), I could easily see Pidove replacing every other bird, and becoming the defacto "low level bird" in the franchise, akin to Rattata fulfilling the "rat's" role.
When it comes to the stat and number game, there is no reason why the last evolution of Pidove could not have lost Big Pecks or Super Luck and gotten a more competitive ability (it isn't unheard of Pokémon losing their abitilies, like Gengar losing levitate from Haunter), except for Gamefreak not caring about making Pokémon competitive at all.
If I had the power to Thanos snap one of the birds, Starly would be the one to go. Simply because Pidove would be the more "paste-able" in other games.
Pidove's (and most of Unova) downfall was, ultimately, how hard they tried to seclude the dex from everything else.
Anonymous
>>44946188 >listening to someone who would excuse a shitmon for "fitting the theme" your effort is wasted anon, this is the same kind of person who probably used #thankyougamefreak back when it was relevant
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>>44946257 Excuse you. I fucking hate Gamefreak and the games have been shit ever since they went 3D.
>listening to someone who would excuse a shitmon for "fitting the theme" What's wrong with that? Not everything has to be an imposing dragon. Sometimes there is greatness in simplicity, you know? And those you call shitmons might be someone's favorites.
Anonymous
>>44946154 >Just a bird It's a bird of prey
>brings nothing to table that Pidgey could not have It's not a pigeon. Also by that logic any bird Pokémon could easily be replaced by Pidgey
>The same region could have used Pidgey or Swellow Swellow is closer to Pidgey and more "just a bird" than Staraptor
Anonymous
>Castform >Staraptor line >Gigalith line >Deerling line >Emolga >Afrobull >Runerigus >Orbeetle line
Anonymous
>>44946287 >It's a bird of prey So is Pidgeot.
>It's not a pigeon Neither is Pidgey. It, ironically, resembles a sparrow, and its evolutions, other bigger birds. It is like Squidward from Spongebob, who is actually an Octopus despite the name.
>Swellow is closer to Pidgey and more "just a bird" than Staraptor Probably. But they dodged a bullet with making it a 2-phase evolution rather than three.
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>>44946319 >Castform Gimmick.
>Staraptor Read thread
>Gigalith Read thread. Mind you, I LOVE Gigalith and I think Golem is stupid, but Golem came first. We both know Gigalith is supposed to be Golem's expy.
>Deerling Stantler
>Emolga Pikachu clones should not exist. At the very least it could have been remade. An argument could be made that Emolga is the most original and less offending one though, I will give you that.
>Bouffolant It's just Unova's Tauros.
>Runerigus They could make it a new rune-based Pokémon. Why reuse one of the old ones?
>Orbeetle Orbeetle deserves much better than it's two preevos. At least you can agree with that much, that those doodlebugs are kind of stupid.
Anonymous
>>44946154 >And what's up wit everybody liking that bird? >Starly >I didn't know it had such a big fanbase Hurr durr let's just get rid of the strongest and most unique regional bird from when Pokémon was good
Anonymous
>>44946235 This entire post contradicts your entire reasoning for Thanos snapping Starly to begin with:
>Pidove is no great design or anything. It is just a bird. Why the fuck not snap Pidgey as well then, also a Pidgeon if you' want a Pokeworld with dumbass Pidove shitting everywhere. You can't justify keeping both when you went and snapped more interesting birds like Spearow/Fearow.
>>44946257 /vp/ Is like in pure schizo mode, it's stunning to see. Starly isn't even the same type of bird, so OP is literally making the biome dull and uninteresting.
Anonymous
>>44946322 Yet you still removed Fearow, which is a 2-stager.
Anonymous
>>44946348 Is that really saying much when most regional birds were extremely weak?
>>44946355 Pidove is so not great that it goes back and becomes a tool. Sometimes, designs like that are needed, like Rattata. They are tools to spice up the world.
>so OP is literally making the biome dull and uninteresting. Well, Pokémon company is already doing that themselves. Starly isn't even in Sword and Shield, is it?
>>44946364 Spearow is just an angry Pidgey.
Anonymous
>>44946154 Audino is better than chansey
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>>44946404 Just like Gigalith is better than Golem.
But doesn't change the fact that Audino is literally Chansey.
Anonymous
>>44946322 >Pidgeot is a bird of prey >Birds of prey, also known as raptors, include species of bird that primarily hunt and feed on vertebrates >Although the term bird of prey could theoretically be taken to include all birds that primarily consume animals,[3] ornithologists typically use the narrower definition. >Examples of birds of prey not encompassed by the ornithological definition include storks, herons, gulls, skuas, penguins, kookaburras, and shrikes, as well as the many songbirds that are primarily insectivorous. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bird_of_prey Find me something that suggests Pidgeot eats anything but bugs/seeds
>But they dodged a bullet with making it a 2-phase evolution rather than three. Yet you still got rid of Fearow. Literal mental gymnastics
Anonymous
>>44946464 >Pokémon Silver >Magikarp Pokedex entry >"For no reason, it jumps and splashes about, making it easy for predators like Pidgeotto to catch it mid-jump." >Yet you still got rid of Fearow. Literal mental gymnastics Pidgey is a sparrow already. I love Fearow as much as everybody else though, but yeah.
Feedback is good though, maybe Spearow needs a comeback. I only see complains about the birds.
Anonymous
>>44946388 >Is that really saying much when most regional birds were extremely weak? >Let's get rid of good Pokémon and replace them with shitmons :^) You also failed to address the fact that Staraptor is unique
Anonymous
>>44946388 >Spearow is just an angry Pidgey. Still a different type of bird and evolves into a very different type of bird. Taillow is much closer to an angry Pidgey
I think it's pretty obvious this is a troll, regardless, expect to be visited by your local Staraptor very soon OP. You need a Brave Bird I think for this thread.
>>44946489 >I only see complains about the birds. Clauncher is also stupid and don't even try the Corphish comparison bc they are not the same type of crustacean, vastly different.
Anonymous
>>44946503 Like I said, that fact could easily by adressed by rearraging their stats.
If those Pokemon are shitmons, its only because Gamefreak hates giving good stats. Look at stuff like Dustox and Delcatty.
If Staraptor got removed, what stops GF from giving its stats to Unfezant?
Anonymous
>>44946154 >I mean, an argument could be made about that, but it isn't me who can make it. I am no puritan myself. It's not about being puritan. It's based on bunny girls. Like for fuck's sake.
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>>44946511 >I think it's pretty obvious this is a troll, regardless, expect to be visited by your local Staraptor very soon OP. You need a Brave Bird I think for this thread. Let's see.
If Staraptor is removed, and its stats are given to Unfezant/Pidgeot, as well as its abilities and some of its learnset, is that the same?
I don't see what' up with you and that bird.
>Clauncher I know it's a pistol shrimp.
Anonymous
>>44946516 >could easily by adressed by rearraging their stats >B-b-but what if they were different?!? >Intelligent discussion only Anonymous
>>44946527 I mean, yeah.
Creativity is boundless, you know. If anything, I like Lopunny and Diglett conceptually better than stuff like Mudkip and Seel who are just "animal but recolored".
Anonymous
>>44946539 Your only argument is "Staraptor ROCKS in competitive!!!" and "Staraptor is cool!"
Anonymous
>>44946550 Meanwhile your argument is...Uhhhh...Hmmm....
Anonymous
>>44946561 You only seem to care about the numbers, that could easily go to some other Pokémon. Numbers and stats are what could change the most easily, yet GF never touches that.
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>>44946541 >All of the above are somehow less creative than humanoid bunnies designed from bunny girls Anonymous
>>44946601 You literally just said otherwise
>>44946550 >"Staraptor is cool!" Go ahead and explain this to me then anon, if Staraptor is different in aesthetics, lore, stats and concept then how could it be easily replaced by Pidgeot? Once you've done that go ahead and explain why it should be Staraptor that gets removed and not Pidgeot if they're so similar and Staraptor is already statistically superior without using the appeal appeal to tradition fallacy because we both know GF isn't going to just delete entire Pokémon from existence so this hypothetical would have to take place in a complete series reboot/restart.
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>>44946713 I take your lack of a rebuttal as an admission of retardation. Gg wp Staraptor is officially based
Anonymous
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>if I give Staraptor's skills to another Pokémon then Staraptor becomes obsolete and shouldn't exist
