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Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 15:06:24 No.44988658 View View Reply Original Report

>That Rhyperior jump

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 15:07:31 No.44988666 Report

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Nobody seems to be able to explain that to me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 15:11:42 No.44988687 Report

Quoted By: >>44988735

>>44988658
>Snorlax is now NU
Went for one of the best OU Pokemon, one where literally every serious team needed one and Pokemon used fucking Thunder to possibly 3HKO it after spikes, and now it’s NU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 15:11:46 No.44988688 Report

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>>44988658
He's a solid suggestion for literally any fucking team.
He's just that good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 15:15:43 No.44988711 Report

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>>44988658
>Fanfic shit
Do poorfag 3rd worlders really?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 15:17:14 No.44988721 Report

Quoted By: >>44989182

>>44988658
I don’t play Smogon much that much anymore, but how the fuck Rhyperior move up? Wasn’t Rillaboom like the top mon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 15:17:26 No.44988722 Report

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do not reply to fanfic fag

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Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 15:17:32 No.44988723 Report

Quoted By: >>44988880 >>44989182 >>44989938

>>44988658
>That Rhyperior jump
>That Kingdra drop
Can someone explain? I don’t follow the meta.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 15:18:31 No.44988733 Report

Quoted By: >>44988773

>>44988658
I wonder which one of the PUs will drop down to ZU next month? I bet it will be the 'Solas, Runerigus, and Alcreme.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 15:18:35 No.44988734 Report

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>>44988711
Why it is to you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 15:18:41 No.44988735 Report

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>>44988687
Literally Snorlax needs to be good again is Slack Off

Rest doesn't cut it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 15:18:51 No.44988738 Report

Quoted By: >>44989255

>>44988658

>The rises

All that makes sense, though RU lost G-Slowbro, which is tragic. It was such a good bulky calm mind mon. I don't play UU so I have no idea if it just does the same thing up there or not.

>The drops

Last month it was NU, and now this month it is PU. glad to see Jolteon isn't being trapped in a higher tier again. Interesting seeing Galvantula go down too. Guess the bee is just preferred for webs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 15:18:55 No.44988739 Report

Quoted By: >>44989182

>>44988711
Relax virgin, the adults are talking
>>44988688
Okay but why

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 15:23:26 No.44988773 Report

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>>44988733

Stunfisk and Sandslash are the only notable defensive grounds in PU, and Runerigus matches up well on both of them. It'll probably stick around.

There isn't really a special attacking Fairy in PU, so LO/Specs Alcreme could work pretty nicely. Gimmick Acid Armor + Calm Mind is also a thing.

The only super likely drop there is Pincurchin.

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Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 15:26:09 No.44988789 Report

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>>44988773
>There isn't really a special attacking Fairy in PU

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 15:32:35 No.44988839 Report

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>>44988658
>all of this will mean very little by October 22

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 15:34:56 No.44988857 Report

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>>44988839
Shame, really. Meta's gonna turn right back into SM's Tapu hell soon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 15:38:27 No.44988880 Report

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>>44988666
>>44988723
Smogon for years now is nothing but memes where every month things change because they get convinced that a random shitmon should be good enough for OU so everyone tries it out. And when they learn it sucks, it drops again. There's never anything objective it's all just the flavor of the month.

There used to be a whole Smogonfag vs Karenfag debate because of OU but now Smogon has some of the biggest Karenfags out there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 15:38:50 No.44988885 Report

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>>44988658
>Runerigus in PU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdfLr97nblE

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Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 15:39:01 No.44988886 Report

Quoted By: >>44988903 >>44989258

Yeh, im thinking we're back, thanks for keeping my seat warm Tyranitar

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 15:41:09 No.44988893 Report

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>>44988880
So just like any other competitive game huh?

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Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 15:43:18 No.44988903 Report

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>>44988886
OH NO NO NO NO

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 15:47:50 No.44988933 Report

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>>44988893
You got it

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Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 15:51:03 No.44988960 Report

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Next stop, OU

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 15:56:16 No.44988994 Report

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>>44988658
>wigglytuff is finally in the lowest tier again, just like every other gen
took em long enough

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Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 15:57:50 No.44989009 Report

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I KNEEL RHYPERIOR-SAMA

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 15:59:03 No.44989017 Report

Quoted By: >>44989180

>>44988857
If Lele and Koko get the new terrian moves, then they'll most likely get banned and only Bulu and Fini will be around, so the meta might actually change in a way we won't expect it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 16:02:14 No.44989043 Report

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>>44988658
wtf at Necromza

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Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 16:02:22 No.44989045 Report

Quoted By: >>44989059 >>44989078 >>44989306 >>44989896

>>44988688
Based Suggester.

What other mons should I use in my Rhyperior/Specs Weedle core team?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 16:03:56 No.44989059 Report

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>>44989045
Citizen Snips

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Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 16:04:23 No.44989061 Report

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>>44988711
I'll just play gamefreaks official tournament format
>double battles
>heckin incineroarinos and dynamax bing bing blammo
>uberspam
>format during 3ds era was same 6 ubers with "variety" being stat spreads
meh

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 16:06:36 No.44989075 Report

Quoted By: >>44989247

>Sigilyph in RU
What ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 16:07:11 No.44989078 Report

Quoted By: >>44989115

>>44989045
Acupressure Drapion
Metronome Clefable
Endeavor Lvl 1 Swinub
Torment Heatran

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 16:10:24 No.44989102 Report

Quoted By: >>44989114 >>44989116 >>44989119 >>44989182

What did Rhy got that made it jump to OU?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 16:10:59 No.44989107 Report

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>>44988658
Ban serene grace or finching for fuck sake.
Its the most uncompetitive trash

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 16:12:10 No.44989114 Report

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>>44989102
Nothing really, just a solid mon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 16:12:13 No.44989115 Report

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>>44989078
Use their fucking names retard, at least don’t sully hoge or hellfrog’s name

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 16:12:20 No.44989116 Report

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>>44989102
People realized how much of a realiable rock setter it is, ability guarantees it can take more than 2 hits and has an attack stat to slap back

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 16:13:25 No.44989119 Report

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>>44989102
Lack of Lando and Friends. It'll drop back down in December.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 16:16:54 No.44989136 Report

Quoted By: >>44989157 >>44989163 >>44989193 >>44989270

>Lycanroc Dusk is banned from UU
>Lycanroc Midday is a top tier sweeper in RU
>Lycanroc Midnight is still a ZU shitmon
What went so wrong with the night doggo?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 16:19:59 No.44989146 Report

Quoted By: >>44989164 >>44989187 >>44989227

>>44988960
>Back in the same tier as Dhelmise
The anchor does its job but better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 16:21:30 No.44989157 Report

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>>44989136
They forgot to give him accelerock

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 16:23:24 No.44989163 Report

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>>44989136
>-20 speed for absolutely useless bulk
>no accelerock
gee I wonder

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 16:23:33 No.44989164 Report

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>>44989146
Then why did Decidueye rise in the first place?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 16:26:41 No.44989180 Report

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>>44989017
>Fini using Defog will get rid of it's own terrain
>at least gets Flip Turn despite mediocre Attack
She'll probably experience the most change in playstyle

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 16:27:12 No.44989182 Report

Quoted By: >>44989580 >>44989796

>>44988658
>>44988721
>>44988723
>>44988739
>>44989102
People are using Choice Band sets in conjunction with slow pivots which smashes through everything. Swords Dance sets are also popping up as a balance breaker. All of this while still being a good Stealth Rock user

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 16:27:49 No.44989187 Report

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>>44989146
Deciueye can actually run Special sets :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 16:28:54 No.44989193 Report

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>>44989136
>Gives Midday a unique rock-type move with priority, great attack, and speed.
>Gives Midnight Counter, instead of a unique rock-type move. Then gets its speed cut, but split across its HP and defenses.

He's be better if instead of taking 30 off speed and splitting it into 10, all 30 of it was added to Attack. Then add another unique rock-type move with high attack power.

Maybe 120 damage, 100% accuracy, but lowers defenses afterwards.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 16:34:37 No.44989227 Report

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>>44989146
No it doesn’t

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 16:36:50 No.44989234 Report

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>>44988658
Rhyperior and Tyranitar are bros that always look out for each other. They are equals that each have their own strengths and weaknesses

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 16:38:01 No.44989247 Report

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>>44989075
They’re suspect testing it right now. In fact, they started testing it before it even rose to RU

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 16:39:59 No.44989255 Report

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>>44988738
>RU lost G-Slowbro, which is tragic. It was such a good bulky calm mind mon
Gaaaaay. It was an amazing Ass Vest user.

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Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 16:40:48 No.44989258 Report

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>>44988886
>literally is used only on teams where ttar sets up sandstorm, rocks and cripples opposing lead

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Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 16:41:47 No.44989266 Report

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>>44988658
>Smogon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 16:42:52 No.44989270 Report

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>>44989136
Why tf is Dusk banned from UU and it has basically the same stats as midday?

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Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 16:46:35 No.44989287 Report

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>>44989270

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 16:46:57 No.44989291 Report

Quoted By: >>44989464

>>44989270
tough claws

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 16:48:03 No.44989297 Report

Quoted By: >>44989464

>>44989270
Tough Claws Close Combat hits harder than Stab Stone Edge.
Dusk Lycanroc is like a better Terrakion now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 16:48:56 No.44989306 Report

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>>44989045
Safety Goggles Zoroark on Sand/Hail team/Zoroark in an all HDB team.

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Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 16:49:37 No.44989311 Report

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>>44989270

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Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 16:51:41 No.44989325 Report

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>>44989270

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 17:01:17 No.44989385 Report

Quoted By: >>44989416 >>44989434

>>44989119
Lando's not that good my guy. In NatDex OU, it's not even a top 20 mon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 17:04:00 No.44989416 Report

Quoted By: >>44989436

>>44989385
NatDex OU also has things like Megas and Z Moves, which won't exist in SwSh post Crown.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 17:05:24 No.44989423 Report

Quoted By: >>44989481

>>44988789
PUBL

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Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 17:06:44 No.44989433 Report

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>>44988789
Fairy STAB isn’t even mandatory on special Rapidash

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 17:06:47 No.44989434 Report

Quoted By: >>44989447

>>44989385

Is that T or I?
Because I wanna use I in OU again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 17:07:22 No.44989436 Report

Quoted By: >>44989456

>>44989416
Lando benefits heavily from Z-moves. No Hidden Power and no Greninja is a blessing, but Urshifu still kills even defensive variants, and outspeeds. Also, scarfed variants can't kill Urshifu, either.

>-1 252+ Atk Choice Band Urshifu-Rapid-Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 252 HP / 112+ Def Landorus-Therian on a critical hit: 546-648 (142.9 - 169.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
>0 Atk Landorus-Therian Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Urshifu: 148-175 (43.4 - 51.3%) -- 6.6% chance to 2HKO

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Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 17:09:22 No.44989447 Report

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>>44989434
Landorus Incarnate is still banned, but I think they could probably drop it back down to NatDex OU without too much trouble. Naganadel, Darkrai, and Genesect could all also probably drop down, because OU has gotten ridiculous.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 17:10:48 No.44989456 Report

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>>44989436
And for scard:
>232 Atk Landorus-Therian Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Urshifu: 175-207 (51.3 - 60.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
>252 Atk Choice Band Urshifu Wicked Blow vs. 0 HP / 68 Def Landorus-Therian on a critical hit: 298-352 (93.4 - 110.3%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 17:12:21 No.44989464 Report

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>>44989287
>>44989291
>>44989297
>>44989311
>>44989325
Somehow I completely missed that, I'd ask why midday didn't also get it but I guess being used by Ash has it's benefits

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 17:15:21 No.44989481 Report

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>>44989423
Not anymore

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 17:16:39 No.44989490 Report

Quoted By: >>44989516 >>44989524

>>44988658
>Galvantula in PU
What the fuck happened? It's been UU/RU for most of its life, why is it now PU?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 17:17:18 No.44989495 Report

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>>44989447
>Genesect
They did that and it was still cancer. Genesect should honestly just stay Ubers

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 17:21:33 No.44989516 Report

Quoted By: >>44989533

>>44989490
Faces heavy competition as either a web setter or Electric type wallbreaker

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 17:22:25 No.44989524 Report

Quoted By: >>44989578

>>44989490
No Hidden Power.

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Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 17:23:00 No.44989531 Report

Quoted By: >>44989624

>>44988658
My boy is rising

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 17:23:11 No.44989533 Report

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>>44989516
It can do both, however. It's probably way too predictable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 17:23:20 No.44989538 Report

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>>44988658
>Hey champ, Smogon here, use rhyperior

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 17:27:26 No.44989574 Report

Quoted By: >>44989625 >>44989631 >>44990463

Is gen8 OU fun yet?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 17:27:37 No.44989578 Report

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>>44989524
Galvantula never runs Hidden Power. It has good enough type coverage with STAB combo and Grass moves

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 17:27:42 No.44989580 Report

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>>44989182
I recall people saying there was nothing CB Rhyperior couldn't 2hko a while ago, I guess that's still true now

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 17:32:35 No.44989624 Report

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>>44989531
It's going to drop back down to NU, or NUBL at best. Right now it's only the specs set that keeps it relevant in RU, since Dhelmise does everything else it does but better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 17:32:39 No.44989625 Report

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>>44989574
Nope.
and it's gonna get less fun in 22 days.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 17:33:37 No.44989631 Report

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>>44989574
It would be if Urshifu (Single Strike) and Toxapex were banned. It's about to turn into a worse version of Gen 7 OU when the DLC drops

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 17:39:48 No.44989680 Report

Quoted By: >>44989689

>>44989447
>Naganadel
Yes
>Darkrai
No
>Genesect
HELL no

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 17:41:05 No.44989689 Report

Quoted By: >>44989693 >>44989711

>>44989447
>>44989680
You're both clinically retarded for wanting Naganadel in OU in a meta with Z-moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 17:41:50 No.44989693 Report

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>>44989689
>NatDex
I retract my statement

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Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 17:43:49 No.44989704 Report

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>>44988658
>my bro galvantula is now PU because of the timberlands
Yeah fuck you too smogoncucks. He's always awesome

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 17:44:47 No.44989711 Report

Quoted By: >>44989750 >>44989889

>>44989689
Naganadel wouldn't even be that oppressive anymore. We've got Galarian Darmanitan on the loose. Oh, and Mega Gross.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 17:50:23 No.44989750 Report

Quoted By: >>44989782 >>44989789

>>44989711
Ah yes, Megagross which is banned.And the ice monkey which is slower after a speed boost even with scarf and gets absolutely murdered by any of Naganadel's moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 17:54:18 No.44989776 Report

Quoted By: >>44989801 >>44989834 >>44989840

>Politoed is ZU
Shit, remember gen 5?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 17:55:29 No.44989782 Report

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>>44989750
>Megagross is banned
>>44989447
???

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Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 17:56:30 No.44989789 Report

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>>44989782
>>44989750
Oops

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 17:58:31 No.44989796 Report

Quoted By: >>44990426

>>44989182
Based, Rhyperior will eternally be known as the solid suggester.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 17:59:17 No.44989801 Report

Quoted By: >>44989819 >>44989850

>>44989776
>the weather wars
Thank fuck for that nerf

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 18:00:35 No.44989819 Report

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>>44989801
Weather doesn't last long enough now. It should last 6 turns, 10 turns with the Weather Rocks.

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Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 18:03:25 No.44989834 Report

Quoted By: >>44989916

>>44989776

Fox > Toad
Sun4Lyfe!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 18:04:05 No.44989840 Report

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>>44989776
Even if Weather wasn't nerfed, Politoed would still have dropped due to Pelipper. Funny that Pelipper of all Pokemon is considered superior to Politoed, the evolution of one of the original mascots.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 18:04:56 No.44989845 Report

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>>44989782
>>44989789
>screencap of outdated rankings means Pokemon that is banned is actually legal

Epic. If all you can base your opinions on is the VR maybe you should actually look at it once in a while to at least know what the actual rankings are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 18:06:06 No.44989850 Report

Quoted By: >>44989868

>>44989801
Speaking of weather wars, what's the general consensus on gen 8 Ubers, now that Primals won't be around?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 18:08:59 No.44989868 Report

Quoted By: >>44989910

>>44989850

DLC comes with a day one patch.
Surprise Giga Primals!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 18:12:14 No.44989889 Report

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>>44989711
Both are banned

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 18:12:46 No.44989896 Report

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>>44989045
BOOM BOOM v2.5

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 18:15:33 No.44989910 Report

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>>44989868
Fucking wish.

Megas/Primals makes the meta so much fun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 18:16:12 No.44989916 Report

Quoted By: >>44989954

>>44989834
Torkoal is so much better though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 18:19:39 No.44989938 Report

Quoted By: >>44989961 >>44989977

>>44988723
Rain is getting weaker because of the prevalence of Rillaboom, and with only 95 sp. atk, Kingdra just doesn't have the breaking power that other strong rain sweepers do. Furthermore, it's outsped by scarf dragapult under rain. Rhyperior is great against Volcarona, handles almost all physical threats well with Solid Rock and punishes switches with its impressive attack stat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 18:22:15 No.44989954 Report

Quoted By: >>44989969

>>44989916
Now that HDB are a thing it isn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 18:23:11 No.44989961 Report

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>>44989938
>and with only 95 sp. atk, Kingdra just doesn't have the breaking power that other strong rain sweepers do.
It does?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 18:25:08 No.44989969 Report

Quoted By: >>44990000 >>44990002 >>44990075 >>44990083

>>44989954
Why the FUCK would you use HDB on a sun setter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 18:26:26 No.44989977 Report

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>>44989938
One of the strongest rain sweepers right now is Seismitoad. Kingdra is actually one of the hardest hitting rain sweepers, the other being Urshifu Rapid Strike, which hits Dracovish levels of stupid
>252+ Atk Choice Band Urshifu-Rapid-Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Clefable in Rain on a critical hit: 408-486 (103.5 - 123.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 18:30:38 No.44990000 Report

Quoted By: >>44990118

>>44989969

Fire-types and all.

As for why on Torkoal, well, it is usually the only hazard setter/rapid spinner on a sun team. It also makes for a decent defensive pivot, so why not have some boots to keep it around?

If anything it makes less sense on the fox, as it generally prefers Heat Rock or Eject Pack + Overheat. That is assuming a dedicated sun team in both cases. As standalone Boots are always ok on a fire type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 18:31:03 No.44990002 Report

Quoted By: >>44990236 >>44990237

>>44989969
Not on torkoal, torkoal main gimmick is that has access to rapid spin but now that you can protect your walls/sweepers better use the fox.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 18:44:29 No.44990075 Report

Quoted By: >>44990136 >>44990137

>>44989969
So that you can constantly set your weather more often.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 18:45:39 No.44990083 Report

Quoted By: >>44990136 >>44990137

>>44989969
to not die from Sneaky Pebbles

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 18:50:37 No.44990118 Report

Quoted By: >>44992370

>>44990000
>Fire-types and all.
And?
>As for why on Torkoal, well, it is usually the only hazard setter/rapid spinner on a sun team.
It’s not

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 18:52:15 No.44990136 Report

Quoted By: >>44990165

>>44990075
>>44990083
You don't want to set your weather more often, you want your weather to last longer. Nobody uses Booties on Sun teams.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 18:52:16 No.44990137 Report

Quoted By:

>>44990075
That’s worse than just using Heat Rock

>>44990083
Use Defog

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 18:56:38 No.44990165 Report

Quoted By:

>>44990136
And as for 'zard...

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 18:57:23 No.44990171 Report

Quoted By: >>44990181 >>44990221 >>44990305

>Metagross and Darmanitan in Natdex OU when they've been banned for months
>HDB on sun setters

Does anybody on /vp/ actually play the game?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 18:58:36 No.44990181 Report

Quoted By:

>>44990171
I play NU

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 19:02:58 No.44990221 Report

Quoted By:

>>44990171

I stopped after the Tornadus ban

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 19:04:53 No.44990236 Report

Quoted By:

>>44990002
get off the board, furfag

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 19:04:56 No.44990237 Report

Quoted By:

>>44990002
You need rapid spin for Charizard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 19:15:54 No.44990305 Report

Quoted By:

>>44990171
/vp/ does play the games, but only until they beat the champion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 19:22:59 No.44990356 Report

Quoted By:

>>44989270
Tough Claws make it hit harder by 30%

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 19:24:02 No.44990365 Report

Quoted By:

>>44988658
The most impressive thing is actually that Tangela jump.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 19:31:52 No.44990407 Report

Quoted By:

Who else here runs a rain team? I feel like I'm the only one in ladder who does.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 19:35:17 No.44990426 Report

Quoted By:

>>44989796
based solid suggester

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 19:39:37 No.44990445 Report

Quoted By:

>>44988880
well I mean that is by design so there is less stagnation

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 19:42:07 No.44990463 Report

Quoted By: >>44991076

>>44989574
>Tapus in a few week

Never, wait for gen 9

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 21:11:17 No.44991076 Report

Quoted By:

>>44990463
Tapus are coming back with Crown Tundra

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 21:23:32 No.44991185 Report

Quoted By:

>>44988880
>people are experimenting and trying new things, which keeps the meta from stagnating
>let me explain why this is bad

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 21:33:09 No.44991250 Report

Quoted By: >>44992735

Okay, /vp/, let's predict which OU-mons are dropping when Crown Tundra releases. My bets are on:

>Toxtricity
>Mew
>Togekiss
>Kyurem
>Gengar
>Crawdaunt
>Azumarill
>Alakazam

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 21:40:23 No.44991298 Report

Quoted By: >>44991334

>>44988658
For those wondering, Jirachi is valued for its role as one of the few specs kyurem counters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 21:44:29 No.44991330 Report

Quoted By:

>>44988658
They just keep fucking my bro Kingdra over

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 21:45:28 No.44991334 Report

Quoted By:

>>44991298
Scizor does that as well

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Oct 2020 00:04:31 No.44992370 Report

Quoted By: >>44992489

>>44990118

>And?
Rocks hurt

>It’s not
It is

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Oct 2020 00:20:05 No.44992489 Report

Quoted By: >>44992748

>>44992370
>Rocks hurt
And?
>It is
It isn’t

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Oct 2020 00:42:43 No.44992667 Report

Quoted By: >>44994745

>>44988658
>jolteon is PU
man this huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuutssss!!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Oct 2020 00:49:58 No.44992735 Report

Quoted By:

>>44991250
Tyranitar again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Oct 2020 00:51:19 No.44992748 Report

Quoted By: >>44992938

>>44992489

>And?
Pivots like to avoid hazards damage.
>It isn't
It is until a counter example is provided.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Oct 2020 01:21:28 No.44992938 Report

Quoted By:

>>44992748
>Torkoal
>pivot
Based retard
>It is until a counter example is provided.
He says, with no example

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Oct 2020 03:23:38 No.44993748 Report

Quoted By:

>>44989447
>Lando-I now that it has Hurricane
Nigger you're just asking for death

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 02 Oct 2020 03:34:46 No.44993833 Report

Quoted By: >>44993857

I'll just ask here since I don't care about looking dumb, but how is "usage" quantified? I know that each tier has judges, but do they look at a percentage of the data and calculate where hikes are in the usage and set the tier separation there? How is data measured in the first place? I don't get how something like usage is something that needs to be "judged."

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Oct 2020 03:37:32 No.44993857 Report

Quoted By: >>44993926

>>44993833
It's just a raw percentage of how many times that Pokemon appears in a team. I don't know if there are any Elo cutoffs, but those are factored in as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Oct 2020 03:45:32 No.44993926 Report

Quoted By: >>44994165 >>44994659

>>44993857
So then why are there judges? Are they there just for rule changes?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Oct 2020 04:22:33 No.44994165 Report

Quoted By:

>>44993926
They don't judge usage.
If a Pokemon gets low enough usage to drop to a lower tier, but it's too strong for that lower tier, it's judged to be too strong and banned so it can only be used in the tier above.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Oct 2020 05:53:15 No.44994659 Report

Quoted By:

>>44993926
If by judge you mean like suspects and bans and whatnot those are just to remove pokemon that are too strong. It's not directly related to usage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Oct 2020 06:10:56 No.44994745 Report

Quoted By:

>>44992667
imagine fast voltturners were popular.... but hey, Snorlax will soon be her roommate. :>

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Oct 2020 06:17:42 No.44994771 Report

Quoted By: >>44995117

>>44988658
>ZU
>They made a tier below PU
For what purpose?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Oct 2020 07:47:01 No.44995117 Report

Quoted By:

>>44994771
Because there were enough mons that were too shit for PU that it became necessary.
Same reason they introduced PU, RU, and NU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Oct 2020 15:54:55 No.44996809 Report

Quoted By: >>44996824

>>44988658
You would think that Meowstic wouldn't be ZU with Prankster dual screens but I guess not

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Oct 2020 15:57:39 No.44996824 Report

Quoted By: >>44996834

>>44996809
There's better screen setters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Oct 2020 16:00:16 No.44996834 Report

Quoted By: >>44996850

>>44996824
With Prankster?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Oct 2020 16:02:25 No.44996850 Report

Quoted By: >>44996859

>>44996834
The entire Impidimp line. And they can't get prankster taunted.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Oct 2020 16:03:27 No.44996859 Report

Quoted By: >>44996874

>>44996850
And in the lower tiers?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Oct 2020 16:06:33 No.44996874 Report

Quoted By:

>>44996859
Mogrem can be in any tier, while Grimmsnarl is already UU.

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