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Pokemon Art Director James Turner

Anonymous Sat 03 Oct 2020 16:46:17 No.45004366 View View Reply Original Report

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If you're wondering why the pokemon design philosophy has taken such a jarring hit in recent years, look no further.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Oct 2020 16:47:38 No.45004368 Report

Quoted By: >>45007339

Every Gen has its own style and philosphy
go blame Sugimori for changing the artstyle in gens 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Oct 2020 16:48:10 No.45004374 Report

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>>45004366
gen 4 has the worst designs though

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 03 Oct 2020 16:49:32 No.45004380 Report

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¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Oct 2020 16:51:00 No.45004388 Report

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>>45004374
Weak bait when gen 8 is right there

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Oct 2020 16:52:41 No.45004396 Report

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>>45004380
>soccer
REEEEEEEEEEE

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Oct 2020 16:53:33 No.45004405 Report

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>>45004388
The good thing about Gen 8 is that most of its designs are actually creative. Nothing from Gen 4 is memorable except for a few of the cross-gen evos that saved some Johto shitmons and some stand outs like Garchomp.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 03 Oct 2020 16:54:17 No.45004409 Report

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Anonymous Sat 03 Oct 2020 16:56:02 No.45004417 Report

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>>45004366
>le epic turner boogeyman scapegoat

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 03 Oct 2020 16:56:24 No.45004419 Report

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>>45004405
>The good thing about Gen 8 is that most of its designs are actually creative
AHAHAHAHAHAH

Lol british culture amirite xD Such clever references bravo gamefreak. Cant wait for the samurai and geisha pokemon when you make a japanese region!

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 03 Oct 2020 16:56:56 No.45004423 Report

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>>45004366
It didn't though. They havent looked better

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Oct 2020 16:56:59 No.45004424 Report

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>>45004419
>Lol british culture amirite xD
I'll gladly take it over "cartoon animal but it's blue/purple"

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 03 Oct 2020 16:57:34 No.45004429 Report

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>>45004405
>take a 20 year old design
>give it facial hair
wow, so creative

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Oct 2020 16:57:57 No.45004434 Report

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>>45004366
Is there an actual list of pokemon he has designed? Or is it unconfirmed and bla bla anything new is garbage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Oct 2020 16:58:09 No.45004437 Report

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>>45004424
And has a pot belly, don't forget.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Oct 2020 16:59:00 No.45004444 Report

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>>45004434
Only Gen 8 designs confirmed to be his are Centiskorch (+GMax) and GMax Gengar
and yes, /vp/ did go from loving Centiskorch to hating it the moment they found out James designed it because gaijin bad

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 03 Oct 2020 16:59:17 No.45004446 Report

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>>45004429
okay now that is EPIC!

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 03 Oct 2020 17:00:29 No.45004454 Report

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>>45004424
>cartoon animal but it's blue/purple

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Oct 2020 17:01:12 No.45004457 Report

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>>45004388
>>45004374
Weak bait, everyone knows gen 2 has the worst designs

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Oct 2020 17:02:26 No.45004468 Report

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>>45004434
>Gigantamax Gengar
>Vanillite line
>Golett line
>Vullaby line
>Phantump line
>Buzzwole
>Guzzlord
>Poipole line
>Centiskorch and its Gmax
Everything else is angry /vp/ shitters using Turner as a scapegoat for every design they don't like.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 03 Oct 2020 17:03:51 No.45004475 Report

Quoted By: >>45007816

EEK

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Oct 2020 17:04:29 No.45004481 Report

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>>45004366
Oh no I'm so mad!!
Pokemon is forever ruined because of the actions of this one man!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Oct 2020 17:08:13 No.45004499 Report

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>>45004380
>>45004409

This kinds of post is why I hate Gen 1. Good on its own but so used as a staple it gets annoying to see them. Also, they are fucking bland and unremarkable contrary to all the other gens. So fiuck Gen 1. That's it, I said it. Sorry not sorry.

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Anonymous Sat 03 Oct 2020 17:10:11 No.45004507 Report

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>>45004499
>That's it, I said it. Sorry not sorry.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Oct 2020 17:14:14 No.45004523 Report

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>>45004366
reminder he called pokemon fans "disgusting" and got away with it

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 03 Oct 2020 17:17:43 No.45004543 Report

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>>45004523
Is he wrong?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 03 Oct 2020 17:28:55 No.45004589 Report

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Anonymous Sat 03 Oct 2020 17:31:13 No.45004598 Report

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>>45004374
Based

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Oct 2020 17:36:12 No.45004616 Report

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>>45004366
I agree, he was key in turning Pokemon into a consistent smash hit it's almost crazy.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 03 Oct 2020 17:41:50 No.45004634 Report

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>>45004366
If James Turner was responsible for Avery being on shield then I want him fired from gamefreak immediately. If he thought I would prefer Avery over Vega then he is as dumb as hell.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Oct 2020 17:51:06 No.45004682 Report

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all the Turner hate reeks of jealousy. you're just mad he has your own dream job

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Oct 2020 17:59:38 No.45004721 Report

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The only good designs he did were the Honedge line and Dhelmise. Every other design is either eh or disgusting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Oct 2020 18:01:54 No.45004731 Report

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>>45004634
Who the fuck is Vega

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 03 Oct 2020 18:02:02 No.45004733 Report

Quoted By: >>45004757

>Oh boy I've actually managed to get hired as a pokemon designer! It's such a huge honor and responsability to be the first and only gaijin that gets to do this
>Will only get to work on 3 pokemon lines for my debut generation so I better ensure they showcase the best of my abilities
>Oh I know, let's put a smilley face on an icecream cone! That should do it!

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 03 Oct 2020 18:08:06 No.45004757 Report

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>>45004733
>I know, I'll put an angry face on a pokeball

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Oct 2020 18:11:21 No.45004774 Report

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>>45004757
Yeah, that's a standard mimic, a common jrpg enemy. Turner has no excuse for his awfulness.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Oct 2020 18:18:53 No.45004806 Report

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>>45004774
>it's common so it's ok
Lazy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Oct 2020 18:26:50 No.45004856 Report

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>>45004806
It's a gimmick-mon based on a common rpg trope which Pokemon was built on, in the very first game when they were still getting a feel for things and didn't take things all that seriously.
Icecream brand mascot is from when the series is literally the highest grossing media franchise in the world and they've had 25 years to perfect the concept.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Oct 2020 18:28:31 No.45004864 Report

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>>45004774
Cope harder

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Oct 2020 18:29:14 No.45004869 Report

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>>45004856
not to mention even in gen 1 sugi made a vast selection of different pokemon while turner only made 7 for his debut, 3 of them being the icecream

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Oct 2020 18:29:27 No.45004872 Report

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>>45004366
GAIJIN BAD

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Oct 2020 18:32:11 No.45004892 Report

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>>45004419
lmao fuck you, perrserker is a great design

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 03 Oct 2020 18:32:14 No.45004893 Report

Quoted By: >>45004947 >>45013073

Does he have autism?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJk3wrvL6To

It sounds like he has autism

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Oct 2020 18:33:14 No.45004902 Report

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>>45004589
Turner's favorite pokemon is Salandit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Oct 2020 18:33:16 No.45004903 Report

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>>45004892
>muh viking jobmon is a great design

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Oct 2020 18:33:27 No.45004904 Report

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>>45004374
that doesn't even make sense lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Oct 2020 18:34:25 No.45004907 Report

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>>45004903
Viking catmon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Oct 2020 18:38:34 No.45004946 Report

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>>45004892
perrserker is like a ugly girl but backwards. Yeah you can coom in the front but every other angle is absolutely disgusting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Oct 2020 18:38:42 No.45004947 Report

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>>45004893
man, not to be a hater but this dude suuucks

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Oct 2020 18:40:00 No.45004957 Report

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>>45004946
Every other angle is just a normal meowth, so yes it's gonna be ugly.
Long haired cats are a mess honestly, but I like the concept nonetheless

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Oct 2020 18:41:45 No.45004971 Report

Quoted By: >>45004995 >>45012754

>>45004419
I just noticed that Perrserker is the ultimate example of how there are no true points in Pokemon designs anymore. The horns and beard would benefits from having points, similar to the horns and claws on old Pokemon, and the "spiky" fur texture on old mons like Arcanine and Jolteon, but instead it is just.... super blobby. The beard is just blobs and the horns just have rounded ends.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Oct 2020 18:43:56 No.45004995 Report

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>>45004971
He's a Norwegian Forest Cat, they are thickly longhaired

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Anonymous Sat 03 Oct 2020 18:47:22 No.45005016 Report

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>>45004903
Yes. It's based on a "bearded" breed of cat that Vikings took with them on their boats for pest control, and ended up inadvertently spreading them to other countries.

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Anonymous Sat 03 Oct 2020 19:41:22 No.45005319 Report

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the real enemy is the 3D, it's what killed pokemon

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 03 Oct 2020 19:42:55 No.45005331 Report

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>>45005016
Norwegian Forest cats are part of the inspiration. Purrserker is probably one of my fave designs of Gen 8.

You posted a regular long hair/maine coon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Oct 2020 19:50:35 No.45005389 Report

Quoted By: >>45005433 >>45005593

>>45005331
As a breeder of NFC's, it doesn't remotely look like one. You can't slap a beard on a normal cat and call it a day.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Oct 2020 19:53:41 No.45005413 Report

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>>45004374
Weird way to spell gen 7

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Oct 2020 19:56:41 No.45005433 Report

Quoted By: >>45005460

>>45005389
>As a breeder
kill yourself

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Oct 2020 20:00:41 No.45005460 Report

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>>45005433
No, you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Oct 2020 20:07:41 No.45005504 Report

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>>45004409
Based gen 1 shadowing

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Oct 2020 20:21:25 No.45005593 Report

Quoted By: >>45005626

>>45005389
Ok? but it doesn't matter what you think, NFC's were part of the inspiration. The nod to viking culture is a play on the "norwegian" part of the cat. The gray colour is to represent the steel type and viking griminess. The beard and general fluffiness is the direct part of norwegian forest cat look.

Yes it doesn't look like a NFC, but you can easily see the reference to them in the design.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Oct 2020 20:27:01 No.45005626 Report

Quoted By: >>45007537

>>45005593
Doesn't really matter what the inspiration is, if the resulting design is lame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Oct 2020 20:37:19 No.45005706 Report

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>>45004366
>in recent years

every couple gens pokemon shifts its design philosophy and the older fans have meltdowns about it. i still remember when hoenn/sinnoh designs were extremely contentious (and you can still find people on this board who hate anything past the game boy days). it's all part of pokemon's strategy to bring in a new generation of kids by appealing to their tastes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Oct 2020 20:46:53 No.45005770 Report

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>>45004589
Trubbish and Garbodor are good. The rest are just straight up unnacceptable. Dhelmise is the worst pokemon design period.

I wonder if you went back in time to gen 1 and erased Magnemite/Ton from existence you could stop this from happening

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Oct 2020 20:55:50 No.45005835 Report

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>>45004380
this except at least gen 7 starters look somewhat ok along with their pre evolutions

tranny seal is ugly though

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Oct 2020 00:01:45 No.45007269 Report

Quoted By: >>45007306 >>45007646

Do you think he will be fired once gen 9 starts?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Oct 2020 00:04:46 No.45007306 Report

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>>45007269
nah, no amount of /vp/ seething will get him booted

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Oct 2020 00:07:56 No.45007339 Report

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>>45004368
Sugimori also appointed Turner his successor when he'd fucked off to go full cúmbrain, so there's that also.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Oct 2020 00:09:05 No.45007357 Report

Quoted By: >>45007651

>>45004419

>samurai Pokémon
farfetch’d
dewott too but the region isn’t Japanese

>geisha Pokémon
Jynx(?)

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Anonymous Sun 04 Oct 2020 00:14:31 No.45007424 Report

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>>45004366
pretty based man

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Oct 2020 00:24:53 No.45007537 Report

Quoted By: >>45007612

>>45005626
not that anon, but cop-out response desu

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Oct 2020 00:32:20 No.45007612 Report

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>>45007537
How? Just explaining the cool inspiration for a design doesn't make it better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Oct 2020 00:36:43 No.45007646 Report

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>>45007269
Depends on how well the merch for gen 8 mons do. SwSh did gangbusters but that doesn't necessarily translate to gen 8 mons themselves making money. The Unova games themselves did real well but considering what direction the franchise took quickly after that it's obvious they didn't merchandise well

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Oct 2020 00:37:50 No.45007651 Report

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>>45007357
>samurai Pokémon
>farfetch’d
youre the kind of person who says lanturn is a dolphin

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Anonymous Sun 04 Oct 2020 00:39:50 No.45007669 Report

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>>45004366
yeah thanks OP

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Oct 2020 00:59:26 No.45007816 Report

Quoted By: >>45012916

>>45004475
Grookey is better than Mankey

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Oct 2020 01:01:12 No.45007830 Report

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>>45004444
quads of truth

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Anonymous Sun 04 Oct 2020 03:10:31 No.45008659 Report

Quoted By: >>45009488

>>45004366
He saved your franchise. Bow down.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Oct 2020 03:20:15 No.45008709 Report

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>>45004380
I think the gen 1 starters are the best but holy shit adding the word monster randomly doesn't magically make them better like fuck that image. I forget where I heard it but the reason I think the gen 1 starters are the best and the newer ones aren't is because in gen 1 the designs look like they're believable species that could exist in the wild, while newer ones are way too stylized for them to look like they could naturally exist, and it's hard to imagine there being more than 1. They're more characters than species

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Oct 2020 03:26:17 No.45008748 Report

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Everyone defends this man but honestly gen 8 just looks way off compared to the other 7. I can only pinpoint it to his art direction and / or the new design philosophy they took.
Even the 2D art is sloppy this time around.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Oct 2020 03:33:28 No.45008805 Report

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>becomes art director
>literally all of his designs get into the game as of crown tundra
>gets promo interviews
>a dedicated splash screen in the credits, the first one you see at that
All because he happened to come from the country the next games were based on. No other art director had a big deal made of them.
Fuck you James

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Oct 2020 05:21:56 No.45009440 Report

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>>45004380
>removes 20 years of stylistic evolution and refinment
>wonders how things could've changed so much
dogshit image i hate you

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Oct 2020 05:26:49 No.45009488 Report

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>>45008659
Must be nice being Turner in japan knowing that theres a 99% chance that he has the largest penis in every room he walks into.

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Anonymous Sun 04 Oct 2020 13:06:29 No.45010887 Report

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>>45004731
She is a random water girl in Wyndon rematches. She's cute but Nessa is hotter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Oct 2020 13:47:39 No.45011036 Report

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>>45004366
i like he's cute drawings, but the crossover stuff is absolute trash
are there people that unironically likes that kirby picture?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Oct 2020 13:48:56 No.45011043 Report

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>>45004429
OMG LOL THIS ARE SO BEAUTIFUL T^T I HOPE THEY GET RELEASED IN THE NEXT GEN
PIKACHU IS SO FUNNY I NEED IT PLEAAAAAAAAAAAASEEEE

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Oct 2020 13:53:06 No.45011060 Report

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>>45004380
I like it more when they're more just like animals and not stylized after human concepts of professions or culture

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Oct 2020 13:57:44 No.45011073 Report

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>>45004374
>>45004405
>>45004457
>>45004499
>>45004616
pathetic zoomer

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Oct 2020 14:01:03 No.45011088 Report

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>>45004366
Lol. This is not how it works

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Oct 2020 19:00:12 No.45012754 Report

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>>45004971
This genuinely upsets me but then again I get why they pushed it that direction. A compromise should be made though. Gen 3 is that compromise and was when Pokémon stopped being a Toriyama/Dragon Quest knock off

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Oct 2020 19:05:19 No.45012791 Report

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>>45004419
>waaah I don’t like it when people base monsters off of regional myths, legends and stereotypes

Get bent fag. You know they’ve been doing this since gen 1. And they’ve only increased it every gen since because it makes the most sense

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Oct 2020 19:14:01 No.45012848 Report

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>>45004589
t.NPC zoomer

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Oct 2020 19:14:44 No.45012856 Report

Quoted By: >>45012947

>>45004374
That's Unova though

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Oct 2020 19:23:48 No.45012916 Report

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>>45007816
No

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Oct 2020 19:24:19 No.45012923 Report

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>>45004366
He really has fucked everything up. Gen 8 has the worst designs by far. I hope he's replaced next gen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Oct 2020 19:26:36 No.45012947 Report

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>>45012856
This.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Oct 2020 19:43:06 No.45013073 Report

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>>45004893
he's even more of a faggot than I expected

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