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>>45008701
If dealing damage was introduced in gen 8 Smogon would've banned it. How else are you supposed to play a pokemon game, if not by PP stalling your opponent over the course of 300 turns?

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Anonymous Sun 04 Oct 2020 03:50:54 No.45008945 Report

Quoted By: >>45008958 >>45009010 >>45009164 >>45009238 >>45009366 >>45009682

>>45008701
They cant be banned, its like trying to ban a type from being supereffective on another type, you can’t prevent a core mechanic, you can only prevent things like items, moves, abilities, pokemon species, and player decisions. This thread is really dumb.

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Anonymous Sun 04 Oct 2020 03:52:15 No.45008958 Report

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>>45008945
This. Thread should just die

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Anonymous Sun 04 Oct 2020 04:00:16 No.45009010 Report

Quoted By: >>45009084 >>45009094 >>45009206 >>45009676 >>45010510

>>45008945
> you can’t prevent a core mechanic
> bans dynamax

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Anonymous Sun 04 Oct 2020 04:09:37 No.45009054 Report

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>>45008920
BASED

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Anonymous Sun 04 Oct 2020 04:15:26 No.45009084 Report

Quoted By: >>45009131

>>45009010
You have to press a button to dynamax, like adding any item or using any pokemon in your team, its a player decision. You can’t choose to crit you dumb fuck. Unlike with dynamax, both players cant agree on not using crits. How retarded is this board?

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Anonymous Sun 04 Oct 2020 04:17:02 No.45009094 Report

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>>45008701
>>45008705
>>45009010
This is your brain on verlisify

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Anonymous Sun 04 Oct 2020 04:25:20 No.45009131 Report

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>>45009084
> pressing a button is requires to attack, therefore it is an option and not a core mechanic

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Anonymous Sun 04 Oct 2020 04:31:28 No.45009164 Report

Quoted By: >>45009195 >>45009725

>>45008945
>you can’t prevent a core mechanic
What is sleep mod?

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Anonymous Sun 04 Oct 2020 04:31:38 No.45009166 Report

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>>45009131
But you must attack/switch to make the turn progress, dynamax itslef is not an unevitable core mechanic of the battle system, its a gimmick you might or might not use in it. Are you autistic? You play the whole singleplayer game without it besides gyms and raids.

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Anonymous Sun 04 Oct 2020 04:36:08 No.45009195 Report

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>>45009164
>Opposing foe has one pokemon put to sleep by you
>You are not allowed to click sleep inducing moves unitil it wakes up
>In showdown it fails, on cart they disqualify you if you succesfully do it
Is it really that hard to understand? You cannot ban critical hits retard

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Anonymous Sun 04 Oct 2020 04:38:12 No.45009206 Report

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>>45009010
> core mechanic
> dynamax
It will be gone in a year. It's a gimmick.

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Anonymous Sun 04 Oct 2020 04:43:11 No.45009237 Report

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>>45008701
Abso-fucking-lutely without a shadow of a doubt. I dunno what kind of deluded autismo would argue otherwise. I can close my eyes and basically see the endless walls of text decrying the "death of pokemon" and "complete RNG chaos destroying this once good game" followed by a bunch of calcs demonstrating situations they would have won but lost due to crits.

If at that point they held a vote to re-evaluate every single global clause the site has crits would be banned at a higher percentage than shit like the sleep or species clause.

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Anonymous Sun 04 Oct 2020 04:43:17 No.45009238 Report

Quoted By: >>45009253

>>45008945
Are you retarded? Removing critical hits would be really simple

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Anonymous Sun 04 Oct 2020 04:46:08 No.45009253 Report

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>>45009238
>smogon rules can be followed on cart
You cant ban them dude

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Anonymous Sun 04 Oct 2020 04:47:59 No.45009269 Report

Quoted By: >>45009303

>>45009195
>>in showdown it fails
And how is this different from banning critical hits you fucking moron? It's clearly a modification to the core game. It's called sleep MOD, for fucks sake. How the fuck are you going to tell me that sleep mod is totally following the rules of Pokemon but a hypothetical crit mod isn't?

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Anonymous Sun 04 Oct 2020 04:51:32 No.45009297 Report

Quoted By: >>45009304 >>45009366

>>45009237
>Its another pointless thread where autistic newfags that only read the OP bait and wont be bothered to read a single reply, try to participate
You cant remove critical hits from the game, unlike using a legendary or their clauses, its not upon the players decision for that to happen. Let the thread die no need to reply

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Anonymous Sun 04 Oct 2020 04:53:46 No.45009303 Report

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>>45009269
It cant be followed on cart.
A meta without critical could exist in showdown, but not as the official smogon format.

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Anonymous Sun 04 Oct 2020 04:53:46 No.45009304 Report

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>>45009297
but you replied

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Anonymous Sun 04 Oct 2020 05:05:24 No.45009366 Report

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>>45008945
>>45009297
>You can't edit crit % to be 0
>But you can edit sleep moves to have 0 acc when another mon is inflicted.
I sleep. The idea that smogon mechanics have to be cart accurate was never real, and if you followed the Dynamax discussion you'd know the community also has no qualms throwing away any mechanic they don't like no matter how "core" it is.

In fact we are only talking about crits as a "core" mechanic here because it was a gen 1 mechanic IRL, in OP's hypothesis it's something introduced in gen 8 and people would probably treat it as yet another one-gen-only gimmick.

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Anonymous Sun 04 Oct 2020 05:12:09 No.45009400 Report

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>>45009094
Imagine having a furry living on your head rent-free.

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Anonymous Sun 04 Oct 2020 06:04:35 No.45009676 Report

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>>45009010
that’s a gimmick not a core mechanic

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Anonymous Sun 04 Oct 2020 06:05:17 No.45009682 Report

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>>45008945
Smogonfags don't play Pokemon games, they can do whatever they want on their simulators

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Anonymous Sun 04 Oct 2020 06:14:51 No.45009725 Report

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>>45009164
To be fair this is possible to enable in the spin off games (stadium 1 and 2, Colosseum, XD, and battle revolution). Its not smogons fault gamefreak removed a great feature from their games. Smogon is just doing their job for them.

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Anonymous Sun 04 Oct 2020 06:26:43 No.45009769 Report

Quoted By: >>45009860 >>45010182 >>45010459 >>45010832

On this subject, I see people fling a lot of shit over things that happen at random on competitive Pokémon. Crits, accuracy, etc. Would people REALLY like a competitive game with no random factors at all?

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Anonymous Sun 04 Oct 2020 06:49:30 No.45009860 Report

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>>45009769
yes

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Anonymous Sun 04 Oct 2020 06:52:19 No.45009869 Report

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>>45008701
Banning crits entirely wouldn't be possible, but they'd almost certainly ban crit rate boosting moves.
Honestly, I'm shocked that they haven't banned crit rate boosting moves.

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Anonymous Sun 04 Oct 2020 08:09:47 No.45010182 Report

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>>45009769
if you were watching a sporting event and both sides played to the best of their abilities, and then an outside force rolls a dice to determine the winner at the end and disregards everything up to that point, would you enjoy it?

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Anonymous Sun 04 Oct 2020 10:22:57 No.45010459 Report

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>>45009769
Probably.
Pokemon in particular has so many options that RNG, at least to the current degree, really isn't necessary for variation.
The opponent's choices are enough of an unknown factor.

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Anonymous Sun 04 Oct 2020 10:44:27 No.45010510 Report

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>>45009010
>Introduces Megas
>Gone in the 8th Gen.

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Anonymous Sun 04 Oct 2020 12:45:50 No.45010832 Report

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>>45009769
Yeah, a lot of people enjoy fighting games.

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Anonymous Sun 04 Oct 2020 13:20:14 No.45010918 Report

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>>45009253
>Sleep Clause Mod where you can use Spore but it will have no effect can be followed on cart
?????

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