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Anonymous Sun 04 Oct 2020 22:07:36 No.45014175 View View Reply Original Report

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Anyone else here play NatDex?
Dravovish is currently being suspected, what else do you want to be tested?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Oct 2020 22:38:30 No.45014368 Report

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>>45014175
I stopped playing after a while.
The moderation team sucks ass and its even slower than OU in terms of council action.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Oct 2020 22:47:29 No.45014432 Report

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>>45014175
Magearna

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Oct 2020 01:05:44 No.45015217 Report

Quoted By: >>45019169

Ban Cinderace, Magearna, Dragapult, and Ash Greninja.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Oct 2020 01:17:36 No.45015285 Report

Quoted By: >>45015321 >>45015633 >>45019169

>>45014175
Remove Ace
Remove Vish
Remove Magearna
Remove Melmetal
Remove Ass-Grenigger
and MAYYYBE Lele

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Oct 2020 01:23:57 No.45015321 Report

Quoted By: >>45015597

>>45015285
Melmetal is fine. It's one of those "claims a kill everytime it's out" kinda mons but it's got more counters than similar mons like Mega Medicham and Hoopa-U while also being really slow and specially frail.
Lele will go only if it gets Expanding Force.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Oct 2020 02:13:28 No.45015571 Report

Quoted By: >>45015633

Everyone can be controlled except dracovish, it's ridiculous how it can kill your team completely if you ko have two Pokemon ready to wield it and pray you don't make bad perfection because it's easily 1-6 magearna is broken but her set can be guessed if you look at the equipment and exploited if she wants to use that to confuse, the rabbit falls easily by bulky mons and dragapult is annihilated by sucker punch or priority attacks or a scarf now all that is broken if they have dracovish in the team is crazy some of my streaks of 15 in a row are turned off by that eyesore

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Oct 2020 02:17:53 No.45015597 Report

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>>45015321
It will, according to datamines. Of course, those also said that Azu got High Horsepower, so who knows. That's why I said Maybe Lele.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Oct 2020 02:20:41 No.45015617 Report

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>>45014175
No, and I don't want to because it look like fucking aids

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Oct 2020 02:24:17 No.45015633 Report

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>>45015285
>>45015571
Just use Toad or Gastrodon bros, it's a perfect counter I swear.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Oct 2020 03:29:43 No.45015957 Report

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>>45015617
low elo post

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Oct 2020 03:35:06 No.45015979 Report

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>>45014175
Nah, too boring for me, I play NatDex AG instead, full Ludicolo team

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Oct 2020 05:01:36 No.45016450 Report

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>>45014175
How busted is Dracovish in Natdex OU?
Surely there's more mons to keep it in check than there were in Shilldex OU?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Oct 2020 05:27:18 No.45016593 Report

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>>45016450
Not really.
It's only counters are still Seismitoad and Gastrodon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Oct 2020 08:22:21 No.45017383 Report

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>>45016450
It isn't as good as it was in Galar OU. The only people who want it banned from Natdex are stall niggers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Oct 2020 08:23:24 No.45017386 Report

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>>45014175
Yeah it's pretty fun. I'm using Poey Jokeaim's Mega Ampharos team and scarf Staraptor carries so many games. It's crazy that not more people use that mon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Oct 2020 08:39:24 No.45017431 Report

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>>45017383
Dravovish forces bulky archetypes because it annihilates everything on Offense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Oct 2020 08:49:38 No.45017467 Report

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>>45017383
>It isn't as good as it was in Galar OU.

It's actually much, much better, because teams have too many threats to prepare for to slot in a Dracovish check.
Scarf Dracovish, running Jolly, outspeeds Tornadus-T, M-Lopunny and Ash-Greninja.
Jolly has a 68% chance to OHKO Chomp, Adamant has 100% chance to OHKO Chomp and 100% chance to KO scarf Darm-G after rocks.
The only way to deal with Dracovish is your designated revenge killer, a bulky Water immunity/resist.
When Ash-Gren and Darm-G were legal, this was easier to deal with since your Tapu Fini/Pex offered role compression in checking multiple threats. But now that they're banned teams are much more vulnerable to Dracovish.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Oct 2020 08:51:52 No.45017473 Report

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>>45016593
>It's only counters are still Seismitoad and Gastrodon.

There's also Mega Slowbro and Toxapex.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Oct 2020 09:27:17 No.45017557 Report

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>>45017473
>Mega Slowbro
2HKOd if it switches in prior to mega evolving and rocks are up, takes up a Mega slot, forces your team to be more defensive oriented, easy to wear down once it loses regenerator, can't actually threaten it very much besides the chance to scald burn, a predicted Crunch on the switch can 2HKO.
>Toxapex
gets 2HKOd with rocks up, wants to run SpDef for Ash Greninja but also need PhysDef for Dravovish which makes you weak to one or the other and lets them break for each other easily, forces your team to be more defensive oriented, can't actually threaten it very much besides the chance to scald burn, gets fucked hard by a Psychic Fangs on the switch

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Oct 2020 12:16:08 No.45017939 Report

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>>45017383
Is there a single non stall mon that can switch in on it without a guaranteed death?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Oct 2020 13:05:46 No.45018094 Report

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showdown is run by trigger happy trannies

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Oct 2020 16:37:31 No.45019119 Report

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>>45014175
Literal fanfic meta

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Oct 2020 16:43:52 No.45019169 Report

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>>45015217
>>45015285
Didn’t they unban Ash Greninja?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Oct 2020 18:25:18 No.45019710 Report

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>>45019119
>>45018094
cope yawnfag

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Oct 2020 19:43:04 No.45020291 Report

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>>45019710
who is yawnfag

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Oct 2020 22:59:22 No.45021787 Report

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>>45014175
Toxapex.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Oct 2020 23:29:28 No.45022040 Report

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>>45021787
Pex is fine in NatDex.
Actually it's kinda underwhelming right now because it's conflicted over whether it should be max Defense or SpDef and it ends up losing to stuff it's supposed to counter depending on what you go with.
It's only stupid in Gen 8 OU because there's no Gliscor, Heatran, etc.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 06 Oct 2020 01:39:41 No.45022972 Report

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>>45017467
Even then. Bulky water resists are not safe. I can attest since I use a rain team with jolly banded Vish and it 2HKOs Slowbro, Tangrowth, Suicune, Pex, Ferro, maybe Amoonguss, OHKO's Fini, Rillaboom. Its nuts. Can beat stall with Pelipper and itself. (Unless said stall team runs Mantine) due to how strong banded rend is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Oct 2020 05:18:44 No.45024203 Report

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>>45017473
Nope. Neither can switch in on Dracovish without losing a massive chunk of HP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Oct 2020 08:51:42 No.45024982 Report

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>>45014175
I don't think I'll be playing Smogon at all for a while.
They really need to take action more.

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Anonymous Tue 06 Oct 2020 09:47:43 No.45025113 Report

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>>45014175
Vish suspected after a year. Bout time

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Oct 2020 10:08:40 No.45025165 Report

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>>45014175
>>>>>>>>>>smogon
just play doubles online

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Anonymous Tue 06 Oct 2020 10:22:02 No.45025192 Report

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>>45025165
1 pokedollar has been added to your account

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