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Anonymous Sat 10 Oct 2020 22:08:38 No.45062319 View View Reply Original Report

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why is baton pass banned?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Oct 2020 22:10:06 No.45062327 Report

Quoted By: >>45065236 >>45065438 >>45065573

>>45062319
because 6v6 is a clown format that requires half the game to be banned to be playable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Oct 2020 22:11:44 No.45062340 Report

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>>45062319
Because it basically turns the game into solitaire.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Oct 2020 22:58:54 No.45062706 Report

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>>45062319
it isnt banned

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Oct 2020 23:53:06 No.45063133 Report

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>>45062319
what's baton pass

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 01:09:46 No.45063664 Report

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>>45062319
A better question is why you even care.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 01:16:46 No.45063741 Report

Quoted By: >>45069429

>>45062319
Because certain Pokemon when boosted by Baton Pass are literally unstoppable. There is no skill behind it and very little, if any, counterplay. It's a dumb move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 01:22:28 No.45063786 Report

Quoted By: >>45063898 >>45064756 >>45065443 >>45065751 >>45065816 >>45065961 >>45067343

>>45062319
>playing simulators run by basement dwelling autists who ban whatever they don't like
just play on cart

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 01:36:33 No.45063898 Report

Quoted By: >>45064979 >>45065972

>>45063786
Ah yes I love bringing my beloved shitmons in to fight the same overpowered Pokemon and lose over and over again because they can't even come close to competing.
>git gud
Not an argument.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 01:37:09 No.45063903 Report

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>>45062319
speed

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 03:42:09 No.45064733 Report

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Counterplay isnt consistent enough and leaves you less prepared for opponents who dont use BP

Makes games too matchup dependent and autopiloty

Would require lots of bans (including complex bans) to "balance"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 03:45:15 No.45064756 Report

Quoted By: >>45064973

>>45063786
>cart
It's literally all hackers with website names and level 9999 Huge Power Slakings.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 03:45:39 No.45064758 Report

Quoted By: >>45065065

>>45062319
Are you new to comp or something?
Also since this is a shit thread I'll just post this here:
Even I fap to a loli doujin.
Odds I fap to JAV.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 04:21:38 No.45064973 Report

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>>45064756
There are legality checks on online play. Also if you dont hack your pokemon you're a complete dumbfuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 04:22:52 No.45064979 Report

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>>45063898
get good

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 04:26:00 No.45064997 Report

Quoted By: >>45065043 >>45065051 >>45065528

>>45062319
Look at all the idiots in this thread. Who cares about some random website not affiliated with GF, TPC, or Nintendo banning movesets? Just play them however you wanted. Don't give a fuck about random anon's 'muh high elo' opinions

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 04:34:08 No.45065043 Report

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>>45064997
OP cares, thats why he made this thread. Why are you here?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 04:35:27 No.45065051 Report

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>>45064997
I think you may be retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 04:37:21 No.45065065 Report

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>>45064758
based

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 05:05:26 No.45065215 Report

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>what is taunt

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 05:10:18 No.45065236 Report

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>>45062327
base.

The thing is Pokémon is not even a competitive game and was never meant to be. Their is no constant updates for the meta like other games such as Smash or even Yu-gi-Oh! and that card game has become fully retarded. Pokemon gets updates only for each Gen/DLC. So why try to play a game that was never meant to be competitive and following a fake system that is bias and fake?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 05:45:04 No.45065422 Report

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>>45063664
sylveon team maybe?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 05:48:23 No.45065438 Report

Quoted By: >>45069404

>>45062327
>that requires half the game to be banned to be playable.

Lolno it doesnt
The bans are only there to enforce stall as the main playstyle

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 05:49:26 No.45065443 Report

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>>45063786
>giving money to nu-GF

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 05:49:56 No.45065449 Report

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>>45065215
that's what espeon is for

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 06:06:25 No.45065528 Report

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>>45064997
>Just play them however you wanted.
Ok, I want to play smogon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 06:10:33 No.45065552 Report

Quoted By: >>45067311 >>45067876

>>45065236
lol
following your same logic, chess is not competitive because it hasnt had an update in the last millenium

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 06:14:32 No.45065573 Report

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>>45062327
fpbp
6v6 singles doesn't work as well as people want you to think it does.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 06:46:53 No.45065738 Report

Quoted By: >>45065773

>>45062319
Because in gen 6 people started using baton pass centered teams that would use 5 mons to boost some shitmon into oblivion and become unstoppable
I think Smogon went too far in the other direction though. Now why even bother using baton pass unless it's ninjask or some shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 06:50:07 No.45065751 Report

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>>45063786
Why play on cart when you could just use GF's official rules on the sim instead
At least that way you're not giving up your life force just to prepare to play online

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 06:54:42 No.45065773 Report

Quoted By: >>45065809

>>45065738
Dude optimized batton pass abused trapping, it was a flowchart to victory an I loved abusing it, even with 2/3 counters you could still steamroll

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 06:56:51 No.45065784 Report

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>>45062319
>gen 6

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 07:02:18 No.45065809 Report

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>>45065773
Gen 6 meta certainly was a time. I miss it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 07:03:17 No.45065816 Report

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>>45063786
Ah yes, battle against an endless horde of the same, injected teams by an army of tryhard nips that forfeit the moment their calculated strategy doesn't work

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 07:47:40 No.45065961 Report

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>>45063786
are you forgetting they have a tier where you can do as you please or

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 07:51:01 No.45065971 Report

Quoted By: >>45066197 >>45069460

>>45062319
>Ninjask used Protect
>Speed Boost
>Ninjask used Swords Dance
>Ninjask held on using its Focus Sash
>Speed Boost
>Ninjask used Baton Pass
>Anon sends in Landorus/Incineroar/etc.
>clean sweep

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 07:52:31 No.45065972 Report

Quoted By: >>45065989 >>45066102

>>45063898
>get good
>Not an argument.
Bro, you are able to do every single thing that your opponent can do.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 07:58:26 No.45065989 Report

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>>45065972
>lol, just be omniscient
even for bait this is a retarded retort

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 08:37:35 No.45066102 Report

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>>45065972
>Bro, you are able to do every single thing that your opponent can do.
Not if I'm using my shitmon bros.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 09:00:20 No.45066191 Report

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>>45065809
Seeing mega heracross break through everything was beautiful, nothing that could answer to Espeon could dent deal with it after you bait trapped with goth the unlikely answers

Gen6 was the wildest ride

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 09:01:55 No.45066197 Report

Quoted By: >>45066217 >>45066921

>>45065971
>clean sweep

Until Sash Perrserker appears

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 09:05:27 No.45066217 Report

Quoted By: >>45066281 >>45066288

>>45066197
Bro, do you realize how hard it is to keep hazards off a dedicated SR team?
You really need a shedshell defogger to avoid them steam rolling, fuck it the most lethal variant of it used multi hit moves or had subs already on chain, as much as I like memecat nothing short of hand grenade pyukumuku could handle them

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 09:25:48 No.45066281 Report

Quoted By: >>45071645

>>45066217
Don't respond to him.
He's obsessed with sash Perrserker and constantly posts replays of himself beating low ladder shitters with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 09:27:43 No.45066288 Report

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>>45066217
A dude who uses Ninjask baton pass doesnt set SR

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 13:36:00 No.45066921 Report

Quoted By: >>45070224

>>45066197
Unless it gets an OHKO, no

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 15:05:41 No.45067311 Report

Quoted By: >>45067803 >>45069280 >>45073275

>>45065552
But that has no new pieces/content added. Yes chess has many strategies but the same old pieces/standard. That logic doesn't apply to pokemon when each gen/dlc something new will be added, a gimmick forgotten/remove. Also really? I used modern video game and card game example and you try to refute it with chess? If you can't even make a proper refute, why reply at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 15:11:08 No.45067343 Report

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>>45063786
They have an anything goes tier on showdown

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 16:29:03 No.45067786 Report

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x used perish song!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 16:31:35 No.45067803 Report

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>>45067311
Because he's a retarded underage on /vp/ who only plays Pokemon and has a vague idea of what other competitive games are like

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 16:47:28 No.45067876 Report

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>>45065552
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_chess_variants

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 20:20:36 No.45069260 Report

Quoted By: >>45069745

>>45067876
and your points is?
standard chess hasnt change

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 20:24:29 No.45069280 Report

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>>45067311
this post just shows how much of an idiot you are

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 20:40:11 No.45069390 Report

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>>45065236
constant updates is the cancer killing multiplayer games

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 20:42:03 No.45069404 Report

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>>45065438
Baton Passing IS a stall playstyle.

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Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 20:44:54 No.45069420 Report

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>>45062319
one man was too based for smogon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 20:46:11 No.45069429 Report

Quoted By: >>45069462

>>45063741
Any pokemon with haze will completely destroy the whole chain

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 20:46:22 No.45069430 Report

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>>45065236
Some games like SC2 were literally ruined by updates

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 20:47:25 No.45069438 Report

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>>45065236
>Pokemon gets updates only for each Gen/DLC.
And?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 20:51:26 No.45069460 Report

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>>45065971
>Ninjask used Protect
>Speed Boost
>Ninjask used Swords Dance
>Ninjask held on using its Focus Sash
>but died anyway because it was a move that hits twice or more
>or was killed in the next turn because the other team had a priority move

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 20:52:15 No.45069462 Report

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>>45069429
>taunt

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 20:56:20 No.45069485 Report

Quoted By: >>45069511 >>45071743

Baton pass ban is ridiculous, there are tons of ways of dealing with it

>taunt
>haze
>spectral thief (my favorite)
>whirlwind
>dragon tail
>multi hit moves

The fact that Anything Goes is not dominated my batton pass teams is a testament of how dumb the ban is

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 20:57:39 No.45069494 Report

Quoted By: >>45069517 >>45071450

I will never understand why people use Ninjask instead of Scolipede

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 21:00:17 No.45069511 Report

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>>45069485
>The fact that Anything Goes is not dominated my batton pass teams
you don't play AG

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 21:00:53 No.45069517 Report

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>>45069494
they don't

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 21:32:07 No.45069745 Report

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>>45069260
The point is chess has had many updates

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 22:51:45 No.45070224 Report

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>>45066921
>what is Metal Burst

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 22:53:06 No.45070230 Report

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>>45065215
Magic bounce
Oblivious
Mental herb
Outspeeding and using sub or taunt

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 02:03:22 No.45071419 Report

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>>45069745
And yet people still play fanfic chess.
Hmmm...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 02:08:24 No.45071450 Report

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>>45069494
Because Scolipede can also use toxic in a pinch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 02:33:34 No.45071645 Report

Quoted By: >>45071932

>>45066281
So this moron >>45070224 unironically thinks metal burst stops BP?
Is this a sad joke?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 02:47:45 No.45071743 Report

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>>45069485

>espeon
>extremely obvious
>only learned by one pokemon
>taunt
>blocked by sub
>LOL

Try again

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 03:27:08 No.45071932 Report

Quoted By: >>45071953 >>45073137 >>45073737

>>45071645
Sash + Metal Burst HOKOs any boosted sweeper
Stealth Rocks breaks it but Baton Pass users almost never bother with SR

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 03:30:22 No.45071953 Report

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>>45071932
it's also cucked by sub which all BP teams use

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 05:46:28 No.45072780 Report

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>>45065449
Then it's a Pokémon with a niche that can be used in the format, giving it purpose in a meta it wouldn't otherwise be a part of.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 07:27:58 No.45073137 Report

Quoted By: >>45073148

>>45071932
>Baton Pass users almost never bother with SR
Why wouldn't they?
Breaking focus sash is kinda vital to sweeping.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 07:32:54 No.45073148 Report

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>>45073137
Not if the defensive stats have also been boosted

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 08:08:18 No.45073245 Report

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covid social distancing

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 08:16:49 No.45073275 Report

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>>45067311
>I used modern video game and card game example and you try to refute it with chess?
>Gets BTFO by a simple comparison
>Presents no argument on why comparison is faulty
>...and whins like a bitch.
Everytime.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2020 11:13:09 No.45073737 Report

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>>45071932
Not if the opponent sees it coming from a mile away when they see your username and your Perrserker named I'M GONNA.

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