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Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 00:59:55 No.45063585 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>45063615 >>45063647 >>45063657 >>45063908 >>45063911 >>45063986 >>45063987 >>45064349 >>45064382 >>45064657 >>45064865 >>45066017 >>45067271 >>45067996

Lucky you, it's Gen XV and Pokémon has decide to completely reinvent its Type system from the ground up, with you calling the shots.

You have total control to remove Types, or completely redefine what they are as you wish.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 01:00:32 No.45063587 Report

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Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 01:01:12 No.45063594 Report

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>>45063587
You got it captain.

Everything stays the same and everyone is happy forever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 01:01:37 No.45063597 Report

Quoted By: >>45063657 >>45063987

I rename Grass to Plant

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 01:04:18 No.45063615 Report

Quoted By: >>45064014

>>45063585
I add the Shadow type and give certain Pokémon special forms with different Pokémon getting them each generation. Shadow now replaces the secondary type, or Normal on half Normal dual types. If the Pokémon only has 1 type then Shadow is added as the secondary type. Fully evolved Pokémon (and single stage ones) get the Shadow type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 01:05:16 No.45063625 Report

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The types themselves are already pretty balanced, and we know how the pokemon community is about change.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 01:05:28 No.45063626 Report

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All the types have 1 resistence, 4 weaknesses and 4 strengths

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 01:06:21 No.45063630 Report

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Poison is strong to ground and resists it too

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 01:06:49 No.45063635 Report

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Not that I wouldn't rework the type interaction table, but I think I would add in type-based combination attacks. Rename "Flying" to "Wind" type and then give Fire moves a 1.5x modifier if they follow a Wind attack (and other things along those lines).

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 01:06:57 No.45063636 Report

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Remove all existing types
Add
>Head
>Tail
>Arm
>Leg
>Stomach
>Bone
>Domesticated
>Wild
>Slime
>Jewel
>Fish
>Flower
>Kaiju

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 01:07:26 No.45063646 Report

Quoted By: >>45066926

Dual type resistances are not multiplicative anymore. They are now averages.

x4 don't exist anymore, they become x2
x2 becomes x1.5 if it's dual typed, stays x2 if it's single typed

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 01:07:30 No.45063647 Report

Quoted By: >>45064014 >>45064767

>>45063585
1. stop using Roman numerals
2. There would be four types based off of the western zodiac which include elements of Earth, Air, Water, and Fire. Types wouldn’t have weaknesses rather each are known for a common theme for example fire types are aggressive and water types are mysterious, etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 01:08:59 No.45063657 Report

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>>45063597
This is so fucking arbitrary and would only be a bother when everyone already says grass
>>45063585
Rock and ground are one type, earth
Flying is no longer a type but airborne is now a passive trait that some pokemon have that gives them immunity to earth quake spikes etc. As such, levitate is no longer an ability

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 01:09:48 No.45063665 Report

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>>45063657
that's exactly why I'd change it to Plant

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Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 01:09:58 No.45063666 Report

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>Remove Fairy
>Add Sound type in its place
>Water is weak to Poison and Sound
>Ice is immune to Dragon
>Psychic resists Poison
>Rock resists Ice
>Ice resists Water
>Steel is SE on Grass

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 01:18:39 No.45063755 Report

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>>45063630
You logic seems to be that poison contaminates the element of earth and makes it unsuitable for life, but that relationship is covered already with Grass being weak to Poison. Ground wouldn't be weak to Poison because poisoning the ground doesn't really affect the GROUND, only the things living on/in it. If anything the ground just shrugs and absorbs it. That's why Poison is weak to Ground. People bury toxic material underground and it absorbs the toxins.

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Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 01:28:01 No.45063831 Report

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>>45063755
People bury toxic elements underground only so that nobody can find them. Such toxic elements are actually held within specialized containers made from processed materials. Ground is just as susceptible to poison as water, and nobody would eat or interact with anything sourced from a highly contaminated landmass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 01:37:53 No.45063908 Report

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>>45063585
I'd do something like the TCG where there's a smaller number of types and each Pokemon has 1 weakness and resistance that correlates to its type. Like all Water mons would either be weak to Electric or Grass and resist Fire or Steel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 01:39:07 No.45063911 Report

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>>45063585
-Dragon and Fairy-type are removed, and pokémon of these types are retyped.
Elemental balances change. Far too many to list but some notorious ones are:
-Poison is super-effective against bug and water.
-Ice now resists water and grass, and is immune to ice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 01:46:23 No.45063963 Report

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>>45063831
But isn't that the point? The living things on the ground are harmed by the contamination. The ground itself does not care, it's unaffected.

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Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 01:49:49 No.45063986 Report

Quoted By: >>45066082

>>45063585
I remove all types and have instead four categories:
Attack Pokemon
Defense Pokemon
Magic Pokemon
Quick Pokemon

A is good against M
M is good against D
D is good against Q
Q is good against A

With expanded stats

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 01:49:55 No.45063987 Report

Quoted By: >>45066350

>>45063585
>>45063597
Rename Grass to Plant
Rename Steel to Metal
Rename Poison to Toxin
Rename Fighting to Combat

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Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 01:53:04 No.45064014 Report

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>>45063615
Made a rough Shadow Charizard because you can never have too much KANTOOOO shilling.
>>45063647
That's cringe as fuck. Even more cringe than my suggestion of making Shadow into an actual type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 01:54:43 No.45064036 Report

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>>45064014
I've never liked "Shadow" "Dark" or whatever kind of boring alt versions of existing characters, that shit's boring

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 01:57:44 No.45064056 Report

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Reseting from the groubd up is retarded.
I rename Flying to Air, Dragon to Mythic, and bug to.... something, because some people can't understand types aren't literal. Remove; Garydos, Minor and the Galar Birds from Air type. Clean up any other type inconsistencies. Invent an entirely new Types for the UBs and one for Eternatus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 02:42:41 No.45064349 Report

Quoted By: >>45064377

>>45063585
I'd leave types on attacks, but instead of Pokemon having generalized defenses based on typing, they would all be customized. For example, Gastly could be weak to Fire, Flying and Dark, while resistant to Poison, Fighting, Normal and Ground.
There's no point in having a strict type chart since they're already showing what's SE and NFE on the attack select menu.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 02:45:42 No.45064377 Report

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>>45064349
>since they're already showing what's SE and NFE on the attack select menu.
Anon, that's for babby.
Babby needs to know what works and doesn't in babby's first game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 02:46:12 No.45064382 Report

Quoted By: >>45064406

>>45063585
Remove all Dragon types from the game, make Fariy resistant against Ice and Rock, remove its weaknesses to Steel and Poison.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 02:49:17 No.45064406 Report

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>>45064382
t. ranny

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 02:52:44 No.45064429 Report

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>>45064377
Yeah, and the ""feature"" is here to stay with no option to turn it off. So they might as well actually do something interesting with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 02:54:56 No.45064440 Report

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>>45064406
>t. ranny
I'm not into Dragon types though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 03:27:04 No.45064657 Report

Quoted By: >>45067238

>>45063585
Water is now weak to Ice. Bug is weak to and Ice takes neutral damage from Rock (yes, rocks could crush bugs, but many live under rocks, but there are a lot of bugs that either burrow or go into houses to avoid the cold). Poison is now super effective against Water.

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Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 03:47:40 No.45064767 Report

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>>45063647
>2. There would be four types based off of the western zodiac which include elements of Earth, Air, Water, and Fire. Types wouldn’t have weaknesses rather each are known for a common theme for example fire types are aggressive and water types are mysterious, etc.
So, would that include the 12 zodiac signs as subcategories for monsters? Like each subcategory has a specific trait that ties a monster to a 'sign', or would that not have any connection to it and just consist of the classical elements, like I'd assume?
>inb4 "That's retarded"
I know, but I may as well have asked anyways

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 04:03:03 No.45064865 Report

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>>45063585
Ground/Rock are one type. “Moves that shake the ground” is already a category, so Flying types are immune to those. Levitate is also removed and is now a trait in battle; Flygon gets Sand Stream for example.

Ice resists this “Earth” fusion type, and resists Flying as well. Steel is now weak to Electric and Water. Water is now weak to Poison. Acid/Acid Spray are now SE on Steel. Fairy no longer resists Bug.

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Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 08:10:03 No.45066017 Report

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>>45063585
Just this, nothing more

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Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 08:33:13 No.45066082 Report

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>>45063986
That's the best answer in the thread. It's more logical and means you wouldn't have the nonsensical cases where a flying fire dragon can only be two types because it would just fit into one of those categories.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 09:18:58 No.45066263 Report

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Make ground no longer weak to water
Make rock no longer weak to grass

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 10:01:10 No.45066350 Report

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>>45063987
In french the fighting type is call "Combat".
:v

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Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 10:28:48 No.45066412 Report

Quoted By: >>45067254 >>45067272

The thing is different types are used to categorise different aspects of the pokemon, so really they should stick to only one way of dividing them to make it consistent. I have tried to sort them into what I mean, before anyone replies I know some of these are debatable but I hope you understand what I mean.

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Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 11:50:23 No.45066612 Report

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>>45063666
Cringe

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 13:36:56 No.45066926 Report

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>>45063646
Good idea

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 14:09:16 No.45067081 Report

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https://www.dragonflycave.com/typechart.html

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 14:47:53 No.45067238 Report

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>>45064657
>Water is now weak to Ice.

I like this so, so much more than the reverse, but I'll squabble about it anyway: that change doesn't so much nerf Water or buff Ice so much as it mostly just buffs Water. Now what would you use to beat Water Types with this change? Other Water Types with Ice Beam.

I've been saying it forever, but Ice Beam needs to be nerfed to 75 BP while another new Ice move is introduced around 90 BP, this time with much more limited distribution if you're not an Ice Type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 14:53:32 No.45067254 Report

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>>45066412
I've been advocating this for a long time. Either have 2 Types of Types, Elemental and Non-Elemental, or 3 Types, for Behavior, Element and Species. I would merge the bottom 2 you have because Dark Type refers mostly to behavior. Normal basically does too. Psychic and Flying are both special skills, if anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 14:57:18 No.45067271 Report

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>>45063585
>Remove all types
>All Pokemon are either male, female, or genderless
>male pokemon SE against females
>female people SE against females
>all pokemon SE against genderless

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 14:57:26 No.45067272 Report

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>>45066412
Yeah, you're spot on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 14:59:05 No.45067278 Report

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>>45066350
We’re talking about real languages

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 15:00:27 No.45067283 Report

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>>45064440
“No u” is pathetic

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 17:06:20 No.45067988 Report

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Really the only change I'd make is to sever the correlation between type and color scheme. In other words, put a stop to all the iTs eLecTriC cuZ itS yElLoW bullshit.

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Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 17:08:20 No.45067996 Report

Quoted By: >>45068060

>>45063585

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Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 17:17:51 No.45068060 Report

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>>45067996
I can respect wanting to have less Types overall. When you have almost 20 Types, that really just means that each one of those Types feels less and less special and has less and less room to stand out as unique the more you add.

If you have too many of them, the point of dividing things into Types in the first place is meaningless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2020 17:24:03 No.45068100 Report

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rock isn't weak to gress

so fucking retarded and makes rock an absolute shit type

Bug is not resisted by fairy, in fact it is super effective against it, also fighting stops resisting bug

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