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Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 00:06:51 No.45086032 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>45086082 >>45086136 >>45086156 >>45086745 >>45087919 >>45088023

>insert humaniod pokemon doesn't look like it lives in the wild because it's humaniod

Is this the most shitty argument to hate in a pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 00:10:40 No.45086063 Report

Quoted By: >>45086082

especially when it's a starter the game specifically doesn't let you find in the wild anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 00:12:58 No.45086082 Report

Quoted By: >>45086110

>>45086032
>humaniod
huh?

>>45086063
now THIS is a shitty argument. You think starters are just grown in a lab somewhere and don't occur anywhere in the pokemon world organically?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 00:17:08 No.45086110 Report

Quoted By: >>45086131 >>45087797

>>45086082
>You think starters are just grown in a lab somewhere and don't occur anywhere in the pokemon world organically?
They’re grown by trainers, who evolve them, and you can’t find them in the wild, autismo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 00:21:19 No.45086131 Report

Quoted By: >>45086146

>>45086110
You're given ones that are bred to be starter Pokemon, but they do exist in the wild. Not finding them in the wild is just game mechanics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 00:23:00 No.45086136 Report

Quoted By: >>45087919

>>45086032
It's fucking stupid
Although there are degrees
Passimian is a monkey that has certain shades of a rugby player but Scorbunny's line is absolutely ridiculous, it's design is sport/soccer first, slapped onto a rabbit
Blaziken's legs mimic martial arts pants, but Braixen is a fucking little witch/magical girl, and I happen to like Braixen but I can see its design isn't natural at all

These are effectively animals, they have to have a semblance of NOT having been designed merely to fill a quota/marketability
Even the humanoids from gen 1 avoid most of these trappings by acting and moving in unnatural ways (Jynx's animations from stadium come to mind)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 00:24:24 No.45086146 Report

Quoted By: >>45086160 >>45086186 >>45088178

>>45086131
>they do exist in the wild
[citation needed]

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Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 00:26:13 No.45086156 Report

Quoted By: >>45086174 >>45086192 >>45086201 >>45086217

>>45086032
Because these anthro digimon rejects don't look like animals you'd find naturally in the wild. They look like walking fursuits

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 00:27:17 No.45086160 Report

Quoted By: >>45086931

>>45086146
They are literally in the wild in USUM, dumbass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 00:28:52 No.45086174 Report

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>>45086156
Gen 8 is the worst offender of this
All previous gens had it to some degree, but Gen 8 took it too far

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 00:30:40 No.45086186 Report

Quoted By: >>45086931

>>45086146
Several Pokedex entries refer to wild ones, numbnuts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 00:31:59 No.45086192 Report

Quoted By: >>45086221 >>45087919

>>45086156
You're making the mistake of viewing Pokemon as animals and not as what as they actually are; magic fantasy monsters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 00:33:13 No.45086201 Report

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>>45086156
>look like animals
Pokemon aren’t animals to begin with.
>you'd find naturally in the wild
In Pokémon’s world yes they do look like something you’d find naturally in the wild.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 00:34:42 No.45086208 Report

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Blue dog>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Dog that's a diver

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Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 00:36:33 No.45086217 Report

Quoted By: >>45086257

>>45086156
Pokemon is a universe where this is a natural creature that's existed for thousands of years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 00:37:38 No.45086221 Report

Quoted By: >>45086242 >>45086248 >>45086785

>>45086192
They're based on actual animals like rabbits and raccoons. And then gamefreak makes deviantart furry OCs of those animals

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 00:41:24 No.45086242 Report

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>>45086221
>They're based on actual animals like rabbits and raccoons

So are plenty of fantasy species/races.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 00:42:58 No.45086248 Report

Quoted By: >>45086379

>>45086221
>based on actual animals
>based on
Keyword here is “based on” not “direct 1-to-1”.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 00:44:09 No.45086257 Report

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>>45086217
And the animations in Stadium show that half of that stuff isn't actually stuck to the damn thing
For all we know, Magnemite is a magnetic ball that got two magnets stuck to it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 00:45:58 No.45086268 Report

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Pokémon aren't animals.

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Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 01:01:01 No.45086379 Report

Quoted By: >>45086412

>>45086248
"based on" also doesn't mean "turn these into anthro humanoids"

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 01:05:11 No.45086412 Report

Quoted By: >>45086560

>>45086379
It also doesn't mean you can't either. "Based on" just means they use something from real life as the base. From then, they can add or change whatever they want. An anthropomorphic badger monster is still a badger monster.

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Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 01:23:59 No.45086560 Report

Quoted By: >>45086643 >>45087910

>>45086412
It also doesn't mean you HAVE TO make them humanoids. If the animal they're based on doesn't have a humanlike anatomy, I would prefer gamefreak artists to stay more faithful to those animal anatomies. Rather than pumping out weird humanoid pokemon that look extremely out-of-place in the wild

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 01:32:49 No.45086643 Report

Quoted By: >>45086681

>>45086560
Not him but of course it doesn't. Yet you and others focus on the ones that /are/ going a more humanoid route while ignoring the animal inspirations that are taken in different directions like Corviknight, Dubwool, Appeltun/Flapple, Copperajah, the fossils, etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 01:40:19 No.45086681 Report

Quoted By: >>45086726 >>45087754

>>45086643
>Yet you and others focus on the ones that /are/ going a more humanoid route while ignoring the animal inspirations that are taken in different directions
Holy shit this. I’ve even seen multiple fags here parrot
>LE MAJORITY OF POKEMON ARE HUMANOID NOW
Even though that’s literally false. They’re still the minority yet they just focus on the ones that they just so happen to fucking see.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 01:46:01 No.45086726 Report

Quoted By: >>45086766 >>45086901

>>45086681
>>LE MAJORITY OF POKEMON ARE HUMANOID NOW
>Even though that’s literally false.
Literally no one in this thread claimed that "the majority of pokemon are humanoid now". I'm just shitting on the ones that are humanoid anthroshit and have no business being in a pokemon game

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 01:47:54 No.45086745 Report

Quoted By: >>45087279

>>45086032
I could see sceptiles and blaziken living in the wild
I cannot see inteleon or cinderace doing so without it being in some cartoonish hut

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 01:51:23 No.45086766 Report

Quoted By: >>45086920 >>45087893

>>45086726
>Literally no one in this thread claimed that "the majority of pokemon are humanoid now".
I’m not talking about in this particular discussion. I’m talking about other times outside of this fucking discussion. I’ve seen this same shit about how there’s “so many of them” or how they’re “the majority” to hammer home that certain spergs are hyper focused on them.
>have no business being in a pokemon game
You don’t get to make that call.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 01:54:06 No.45086785 Report

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>>45086221
Animal is jynx based off of?

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Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 02:09:30 No.45086901 Report

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>>45086726
>I'm just shitting on the ones that are humanoid anthroshit and have no business being in a pokemon game
WTF bros, a humanoid Tapir?! In MY pokemon game?!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 02:12:01 No.45086920 Report

Quoted By: >>45086973 >>45087083

>>45086766
>I’m talking about other times outside of this fucking discussion.
Then don't bring up shit that random anons said in other threads and pretend that anyone here claimed that.
>You don’t get to make that call.
Yes, I'm well-aware that I'm not one of the tumblr furries that gamefreak panders to

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 02:13:06 No.45086931 Report

Quoted By: >>45086987

>>45086160
Yes, the first stages, but where are the wild Incineroar you're bitching about not fitting into the wild, autismo?

>>45086186
Where?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 02:19:17 No.45086973 Report

Quoted By: >>45087133

>>45086920
>and pretend that anyone here claimed that.
Fag, I’m not trying to say anyone here made that claim I brought it up as a fucking example to hammer home the point the other anon made about fags that specifically focus on the humanoid mons while ignoring the other ones that AREN’T humanoid.
>Yes, I'm well-aware that I'm not one of the tumblr furries
Why are you obsessed with furries and why did you think this multi billion dollar company gives a fuck about this niche ass group?

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Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 02:21:01 No.45086987 Report

Quoted By: >>45086991

>>45086931
If the first stages exist in the wild, then obviously the evos do too since there have to be evolved ones to give birth to and raise them.

>The one with the best drumming techniques becomes the boss of the troop. It has a gentle disposition and values harmony among its group.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 02:22:03 No.45086991 Report

Quoted By: >>45087002

>>45086987
>since there have to be evolved ones to give birth to and raise them.
evolution != age fanfictard

>>The one with the best drumming techniques becomes the boss of the troop. It has a gentle disposition and values harmony among its group.
cool now post the ones for incineroar and inteleon and cinderace, you know, the ones people complain about for being too humanoid

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 02:23:23 No.45087002 Report

Quoted By: >>45087021

>>45086991
Being able to breed first-stages is mainly just fogr gameplay convenience. In the wild, only evolved Pokemon mate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 02:25:49 No.45087021 Report

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>>45087002
>In the wild, only evolved Pokemon mate
[citation needed]

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 02:37:49 No.45087083 Report

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>>45086920
>and pretend that anyone here claimed that.
Fag, I’m not trying to say anyone here made that claim I brought it up as a fucking example to hammer home the point the other anon made about fags that specifically focus on the humanoid mons while ignoring the other ones that AREN’T humanoid.
>Yes, I'm well-aware that I'm not one of the tumblr furries
Why are you obsessed with furries and why do you think this multi billion dollar company would give a fuck about this niche ass group?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 02:45:49 No.45087133 Report

Quoted By: >>45087190

>>45086973
>Fag, I’m not trying to say anyone here made that claim
Again, who gives a shit about what random anons in other threads said. That fag was retarded to greentext LE MAJORITY OF POKEMON ARE HUMANOID NOW as if anyone here has claimed that. No one here even remotely alluded to that claim until that fag brought it up out of nowhere.
>why did you think this multi billion dollar company gives a fuck about this niche ass group?
When gamefreak stops making coomer fursuit humanoid furry designs, then maybe I'll stop thinking degenerate furries aren't their primary target audience

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 02:54:52 No.45087190 Report

Quoted By: >>45087443 >>45087460

>>45087133
>Again, who gives a shit about what random anons in other threads said.
You do apparently since you’re still fucking talking about it as it was already mentioned that it was a fucking EXAMPLE since there are retards that DO say that blatantly erroneous shit because they’re obviously focused on the humanoids. What point are you even trying to make when nobody claimed anyone in this thread said it?
>When gamefreak stops making coomer fursuit humanoid furry designs
So because a humanoid exists it must obviously be for coomers? Are you really that obsessed with furries that you can only see this designs within some sort of sexual context?

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Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 03:15:20 No.45087279 Report

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>>45086745
I can see the scorbunny evo line running around a winter forest and intelleons stalking a marsh. I get where you're coming from though

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 03:42:45 No.45087443 Report

Quoted By: >>45087547

>>45087190
>What point are you even trying to make when nobody claimed anyone in this thread said it?
Because nobody here was arguing that humanoids are the majority of pokemon designs. So it makes no fucking sense to bring in claims that Other anons said in Other threads, then "debunk" a strawman argument that nobody in this thread made. It's like saying
>>"LE MAJORITY OF CHARMANDERS ARE GREEN NOW"
>Even though that’s literally false.
Useless information for the conversation we're having IN THIS thread.

>So because a humanoid exists it must obviously be for coomers?
Granted, coomers will inevitably lewd every pokemon. But furry humanoid designs like Cinderace are like crack cocaine for coomers. Meganium is kinda feminine, but that dinosaur didn't generate nearly as much porn as this deviantart anthro rabbit OC did

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 03:44:54 No.45087460 Report

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>>45087190
>So because a humanoid exists it must obviously be for coomers? Are you really that obsessed with furries that you can only see this designs within some sort of sexual context?
Yeah I think him admitting that goes to show the deeper problem is that so many people on the internet have their brains stained by the knowledge of X fetish and can no longer see something objectively non-sexual as non-sexual anymore. Obstagoon is literally a nod to KISS but the notion that a group of people get sexual gratification out of it drowns that and other thoughts out and turns them against it, it's like a form of PTSD.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 03:59:55 No.45087547 Report

Quoted By: >>45087754

>>45087443
>then "debunk" a strawman argument that nobody in this thread made.
Are you missing the fucking point this hard? Nobody was trying to “debunk” any fucking body, there was only an agreement being made through a fucking example.
>Anon 1: You and others focus on humanoids while ignoring the ones that aren’t.
>Anon 2: Agreed, I’ve even seen some make blatantly false statements about the number of humanoids which reinforce that there are people explicitly focused on humanoids.
>(You): Nobody in this thread said “humanoids are the majority”.
>Anon 2: No shit, it was an example about anon’s earlier point that there are some others that are way too focused on the humanoids.
Nobody was arguing with anybody about the actual statement made to “debunk” anything.
>But furry humanoid designs like Cinderace are like crack cocaine for coomers.
So are fat and/or chubby designs like Charizard/Typhlosion/Feraligatr/Zangoose. Why does it fucking matter what furries like when what they like is fucking broad? Why is this of any concern?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 04:29:19 No.45087754 Report

Quoted By: >>45087800 >>45088013 >>45089157

>>45087547
>Nobody was trying to “debunk” any fucking body
Ok but that's completely false. >>45086681
>I’ve even seen multiple fags here parrot
>I’VE EVEN SEEN multiple fags here parrot
>I’ve even seen MULTIPLE FAGS HERE parrot
>>LE MAJORITY OF POKEMON ARE HUMANOID NOW
>Even though that’s literally false.
"Here". As in THIS thread. Where nobody here claimed that strawman position. And the easiest way to spot a strawman argument is because he used the redditfag "Le" dismissal.

>Typhlosion/Zangoose
Literally nowhere near the mountain of porn that furfags made for the humanoid soccer fuckbunny. Maybe if cinderace was a, i dunno, more anatomically correct rabbit, then maybe coomer artfags wouldn't be drawing loads of porn of it in every waking hour.
>Charizard/Feraligatr
Scalies are another minor problem aside from furries. Charizard is a popular old dragon from the 90s that boomer scalies like. But cinderace porn has long eclipsed feraligatr porn ages ago.

Again, coombrains go crazy for humanoid designs like this rabbit. Gamefreak's pandering to their furry fanbase only attracts more of these degenerates.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 04:36:27 No.45087797 Report

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>>45086110
.....so? Where do the pokemon come from? Did cinderaces start appearing in pokeballs all of a sudden one day? Or were they found in their natural habitat in the wilderness, soccer fields?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 04:36:56 No.45087800 Report

Quoted By: >>45087880

>>45087754
>"Here". As in THIS thread.
I wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt reading this but you're a fucking dumbass. "Here" can mean the thread, the board, the site, within the Pokemon community, his city, his country, and so on. You narrowing the scope to INSIST it's this thread when he already clarified he meant in general is peak irony when you use the term "strawman" in the very next sentence. I honestly can't tell how you can be knowledgeable enough to know what a strawman is yet not knowledgeable enough to tell that "here" is not proof he was talking about this thread in the slightest.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 04:51:40 No.45087880 Report

Quoted By: >>45087893

>>45087800
>"Here" can mean the thread, the board, the site, within the Pokemon community, his city, his country, and so on.
Oh sorrr~rry. I'm not a mindreader, y'know. I didn't realize that when he said "Here", he akschually meant the whole country. Without him providing any context clues, forgive me for just assuming he meant This particular thread. Y'know, like what a normal person would assume when some anon posts "I’ve even seen multiple fags here parrot" with no context clues whatsoever

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 04:55:05 No.45087893 Report

Quoted By: >>45087915

>>45087880
>I didn't realize that when he said "Here", he akschually meant the whole country. Without him providing any context clues, forgive me for just assuming he meant This particular thread.
"I’m not talking about in this particular discussion. I’m talking about other times outside of this fucking discussion."
from >>45086766

You're literally retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 04:58:26 No.45087910 Report

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>>45086560
I don't care, both look fucking cool and I love them, just like Cinderace.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 04:59:56 No.45087915 Report

Quoted By: >>45087935

>>45087893
>You're literally retarded.
Whatever, janny. You know regular anons like me can't see the IPs of posters. That quoted post could have been him or someone else entirely

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Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 05:01:44 No.45087919 Report

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>>45086192
Yes, but why would magic fantasy monster have jobs like tap dancer, construction work (with a literal steel beam), or piece of shit (see pic related)?

Yokai works as an answer for some, but I find it hard to believe shit like Sawk, Hitmonchan, and Delphox are wild creatures. They're too obviously engineered and look like they were designed by people which leads to them breaking immersion through their very existence.
I think that's what most people are getting at OP >>45086032

Also this>>45086136

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 05:04:15 No.45087935 Report

Quoted By: >>45087989

>>45087915
You should never ask for context clues since you're too dumb to recognize them anyway. He literally said "I'm not talking about" X, "I'm talking about" Y which is obviously continuing off what he was talking about before. If it were someone else, he wouldn't have had to clarify something he was previously talking about.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 05:16:00 No.45087989 Report

Quoted By: >>45088013

>>45087935
As of now, there are 19 unique posters in this thread. Aside from myself, that means the post you're quoting could have been made by any one of those 18 anons. That's why I don't jump to conclusions like you do and assume that every anon who responds to me is the same person.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 05:20:17 No.45088013 Report

Quoted By: >>45088050

>>45087989
You're pulling excuses out your ass since if you don't jump to conclusions as you claim you never would've made this post >>45087754 where you literally wrongly jump to a conclusion about what "Here" refers to.

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Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 05:22:29 No.45088023 Report

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>>45086032
>be me
>Create Fakemon
>some are humanoid

Can I use this to defend my mons now, or this defense exclusive to GameFreak?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 05:30:07 No.45088050 Report

Quoted By: >>45088074

>>45088013
And what, pray tell, was the 'correct' answer to what "here" meant? The city? The country? Give me a fucking break. I assumed the most logical assumption. When he said "I've even seen multiple fags here parrot" with no additional context clues, one would assume he's talking about the many "fags" in this particular thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 05:35:22 No.45088074 Report

Quoted By: >>45088117

>>45088050
The answer was already given but you rejected it because you were so careful not to make a dumb assumption that you made a dumb assumption anyway just to be on the safe side.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 05:44:39 No.45088117 Report

Quoted By: >>45088146

>>45088074
Yeesh. What a non-answer. You won't even tell me what answer I supposedly "rejected". Assuming said answer was even written by the same poster who wrote that dumb "LE MAJORITY OF POKEMON ARE HUMANOID NOW" strawman.

But whatever. I don't see why you keep dragging out this offtopic discussion about what "other" anons said in "other threads". It literally had no reason to be brought up at all in the first place. Yet you seem content in arguing with me over these pointless semantics. So stop wasting my time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 05:52:13 No.45088146 Report

Quoted By: >>45088184

>>45088117
It's not a non-answer to anyone with a brain. It's obviously the board, and the fact that you still didn't get it says a lot about you. You're wasting your own time, retard. You're not forced by anyone or anything to continue talking to me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 06:00:56 No.45088178 Report

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>>45086146
Lol retard never heard of the squirrel squad ?

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Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 06:01:53 No.45088184 Report

Quoted By: >>45088204

>>45088146
>You're wasting your own time, retard. You're not forced by anyone or anything to continue talking to me.
Constantly correcting you was a waste of time, I'll admit. But now that you realize you've been wasting my time, I'll end our talk and go to bed now. Please reflect on this pointless discussion you forced upon me and do better in the future to not waste the time of others.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 06:06:53 No.45088204 Report

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>>45088184
You alone decide how you spent your time on this website, retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 10:05:07 No.45089157 Report

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>>45087754
>Typhlosion/Zangoose
>Literally nowhere near the mountain of porn that furfags made for the humanoid soccer fuckbunny.
How in the fuck would you know this and why are you fucking checking for this shit? Why does external shit like this matter? It doesn’t really matter how much porn something has because they all have loads of fucking porn anyways. The point was that furries like anything.
>Charizard/Feraligatr
>Scalies are another minor problem aside from furries.
scalies aren’t a “minor problem” they’re apart of the same fucking group why would you give a sub group leeway?
>Charizard is a popular old dragon from the 90s that boomer scalies like.
Again, why are you so fixated on the particular tastes of these groups?
>Gamefreak's pandering to their furry fanbase only attracts more of these degenerates.
Is your brain really only focused on furfaggots that you ignore this is a fucking children’s franchise? GameFreak isn’t fucking “pandering” to furries, these designs are made to appeal to children first and foremost. You legitimately sound deranged right now.

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