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Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2020 20:14:45 No.45150384 View View Reply Original Report

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>Transistor and Dragon's Maw just provide a shitty extra boost of STAB that probably isn't even close to 50%
>Electric signature is just fucking electric fire spin, maybe electric magma storm at best
>Dragon signature is just dragon fucking water spout
Dead on arrival unless they have ludicrous attack stats and good speed tier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2020 20:16:08 No.45150404 Report

Quoted By: >>45150537

>>45150384
>Regis are shit mons
Some things never change.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2020 20:19:53 No.45150460 Report

Quoted By: >>45150492 >>45150966

>>45150384
Water Spout is a great move though, but yeah it comes down to the Speed tier.
I very much doubt it will be like Fire Spin, Magma Storm seems much more likely.

In general their moves combined with their abilities are really spammable. It's just a shame that both of them have one immunity.
In the end, it's their Speed tiers that will make or break them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2020 20:21:32 No.45150481 Report

Quoted By: >>45150505

>>45150384
Well, you guys are always completely totally absolutely correct about competitive potential for Pokemon, so I guess these Pokemon will be very bad!

A potential 1.3 boost to Rising Voltage or Draco Meteor? Shitmon ahoy!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2020 20:22:35 No.45150492 Report

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>>45150460
Yeah Regielecki will make a good pivot if it gets volt switch and it's signature is a magma storm rip off I guess. Again it'll need to be fast though and past regis are anything but.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2020 20:23:21 No.45150504 Report

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>>45150384
So registeel continues to be best Reggie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2020 20:23:30 No.45150505 Report

Quoted By: >>45152284

>>45150481
>Rising Voltage
>Can't set it's own terrain
lol, also if they have no speed it doesn't matter how hard they hit. They have horrible types for slow attackers. They will not be able to tank hits.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2020 20:25:58 No.45150537 Report

Quoted By: >>45152555 >>45152565 >>45153394 >>45155125

>>45150404
Regice was OU in gen III.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2020 20:27:01 No.45150554 Report

Quoted By: >>45150652

>impying adaptability is bad

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2020 20:32:33 No.45150625 Report

Quoted By: >>45150661 >>45150759 >>45150791 >>45162439

>>45150384
I’m glad the Regis are still filtering the casuals and the false fans. Us Regichads will use them regardless of their viability.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2020 20:34:34 No.45150652 Report

Quoted By: >>45150663

>>45150554
>adaptability
It's going to be x1.3 at best retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2020 20:35:17 No.45150661 Report

Quoted By: >>45150713

>>45150625
Nice cope. I do like the regis though and wish they were better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2020 20:35:19 No.45150663 Report

Quoted By: >>45151144

>>45150652
.... anon, Adaptability IS a 1.33x boost

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2020 20:37:19 No.45150685 Report

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>>45150384
>0 sources
ok

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2020 20:39:42 No.45150713 Report

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>>45150661
What cope? I still use them regardless of their viability and will do the same for the new Regis. Learn how your funny buzzwords work before spouting them like a retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2020 20:44:16 No.45150759 Report

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>>45150625
massive cope

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2020 20:46:20 No.45150791 Report

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>>45150625
Regis are shit, the only good thing about them is the theme. That shit hits hard as fuck.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2020 20:56:39 No.45150923 Report

Quoted By: >>45151093 >>45151141

Cope is a dumbass buzzword. Also
>not knowing the Regipass strat
No wonder you are losing with the Regis.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2020 20:58:12 No.45150941 Report

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>thinking these things will be sanic
Sorry bros but we are stuck with Zeroara and Trannypult for a long fucking time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2020 21:00:53 No.45150966 Report

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>>45150460
Dragon Spout won't be nearly as good as Water Spout or Eruption because of no weather boost and fairies and steels being fucking everywhere but OP is definitely being hyperbolic about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2020 21:11:50 No.45151093 Report

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>>45150923
Regipass is based

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2020 21:13:25 No.45151109 Report

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>>45150384
Why is the electric one half the size of the dragon one? I want the Regis all to be the same size except for Gigas.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2020 21:15:43 No.45151137 Report

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>>45150384
>>Dragon signature is just dragon fucking water spout
except its single target no?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2020 21:16:02 No.45151141 Report

Quoted By: >>45151647

>>45150923
Non-comp player here. What is regipass? something with baton pass?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2020 21:16:15 No.45151144 Report

Quoted By: >>45151163

>>45150663
No it isn't

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2020 21:16:31 No.45151149 Report

Quoted By: >>45151281

>>45150384
>old Regis just have Clear Body
>HAs are just as trash
>shared a signature that was power crept in the next game and is given out like candy

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2020 21:17:54 No.45151163 Report

Quoted By: >>45151279

>>45151144
???

It boosts STAB from 1.5x to 2x, that is a 1.33x boost. 1.5 x 1.33333333 = 2.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2020 21:27:02 No.45151279 Report

Quoted By: >>45151408 >>45151583 >>45151608 >>45162760

>>45151163
The boosts are additive retard, not multiplicative.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2020 21:27:08 No.45151281 Report

Quoted By: >>45151291

>>45151149
what was the regis signature move

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2020 21:28:01 No.45151291 Report

Quoted By: >>45151431

>>45151281
superpower i think

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2020 21:36:47 No.45151408 Report

Quoted By: >>45151583

>>45151279
Not him but do you know even know how STAB works? It's a fucking damage multiplier. It's not additive damage, it's
>Damage * (1.5+0.5) = Damage * 2
which is the same as
>(STAB Damage) * 1.3333333333 = Damage * 2
If you're really going to be anal about it, Adaptability is more accurately a 4/3 multiplier boost to STAB.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2020 21:38:34 No.45151431 Report

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>>45151291
>Superpower
>2 of them have less attack than combusken
Me in 4th grade could design a better rpg. Thanks gamefreak.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2020 21:44:41 No.45151504 Report

Quoted By: >>45151566

Regice got Tbolt. You think Regieleki gets Ice Beam?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2020 21:49:32 No.45151566 Report

Quoted By: >>45151594

>>45151504
No but it does get Flash Canon lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2020 21:52:01 No.45151583 Report

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>>45151279
This person >>45151408 explained why you are wrong, but if it were additive then it's not a "1.5x" boost anyway, obviously

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2020 21:52:44 No.45151594 Report

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>>45151566
Great! Now it can't get wallrd by abomasnow!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2020 21:53:54 No.45151608 Report

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>>45151279
>mathlets

When will they learn?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2020 21:55:14 No.45151619 Report

Quoted By: >>45151749

They ruined the theme of all regis being weak to fighting type.
Should have made a dark regi and called it a day.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2020 21:57:55 No.45151647 Report

Quoted By: >>45161388 >>45162480

>>45151141
Giving Registeel Arena Trap legitimately.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2020 22:06:00 No.45151749 Report

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>>45151619
Regiedgy would be cool.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2020 22:25:55 No.45151963 Report

Quoted By: >>45152227 >>45152231 >>45152272

Do these leaks specify if Regigigas got anything new? Or is he eternally shit?
Also
>not knowing regipass

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2020 22:51:00 No.45152227 Report

Quoted By: >>45152231 >>45152981

>>45151963
It got galar weezing in doubles

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2020 22:51:22 No.45152231 Report

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>>45151963
>>45152227
It also got Rest and Protect

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2020 22:54:58 No.45152272 Report

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>>45151963
It also has protect now

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2020 22:56:01 No.45152284 Report

Quoted By: >>45152567

>>45150505
>use Max Lightning
>Electric Terrain is set

Huh??

Also Electric Types only have one weakness.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2020 23:03:21 No.45152357 Report

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I bet these things have shit cries like all galar mons

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2020 23:22:22 No.45152555 Report

Quoted By: >>45153394 >>45156215 >>45156783

>>45150537
regice would still be BL to OU if sneakies wouldn't exist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2020 23:23:23 No.45152565 Report

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>>45150537
It has the lowest usage of any Gen 3 OU mon by far, it's basically OU by technicality now

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2020 23:23:31 No.45152567 Report

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>>45152284
>huh??
hi gen-z faggot
>Max lightning
nice, a feature that is gone in a year.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2020 23:40:53 No.45152774 Report

Quoted By: >>45153118

You all called Urshifu pathetic for not hitting the 600 mark and then complained about how broken he was a few days later. The new Regis be fine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2020 00:01:51 No.45152981 Report

Quoted By: >>45155137

>>45152227
Does Neutralizing Gas even work though?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2020 00:13:51 No.45153118 Report

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>>45152774
stat distribution >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stat total
If the new Regis end up as SFMA's, they're fucked.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2020 00:42:39 No.45153394 Report

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>>45150537
Different era, and it only got to be OU because it managed to fill a very specific niche kind of okish.

>>45152555
No. Even without tricky tectonics Regice still runs into two very serious drawbacks that prevent it from being a great tank
>Lack of reliable recovery options
>Poor typing
Hell, just look at Avalugg, which is basically just physically physically defensive Regice with recovery. Even with the ability to heal itself it still just barely has a niche in OU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2020 04:07:09 No.45155125 Report

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>>45150537
That was before powercreep was cranked up to 11.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2020 04:08:20 No.45155137 Report

Quoted By: >>45156558

>>45152981
Uh, what do you mean by that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2020 06:29:34 No.45156215 Report

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>>45152555
Regice would've been NU even in Gen 4 without SR.

Physical/Special split and the addition of a ton of good physical attacking moves, along with great power boosting items for special attackers like LO and Specs greatly exacerbated issues Regice already had. It becomes too easy to break even in lower tiers to function as a tank. Regice really benefits from shallow, predictable movepools of Gen 3, the lack of ability for special-typed Pokemon to effectively attack on the physical side, and the pretty lackluster selection of Fighting type attacks/attackers. None of these are true anymore in Gen 4, so into the trashcan it goes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2020 06:36:44 No.45156263 Report

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>>45150384
>Regieleki
>Electric terrain
>Rising voltage Xurkitree

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2020 07:28:59 No.45156558 Report

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>>45155137
Anon is wondering if it works on hindering abilities.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2020 08:24:35 No.45156783 Report

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>>45152555
It really wouldn't be.
A slow ice type tank with no reliable recovery isn't really good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2020 09:10:08 No.45156966 Report

Quoted By: >>45158832

>>45150384
>Dragon Water Spout and Electric Wildfire
Regardless of the stats these sound very good in VGC. Sorry GameFreak doesnt pander to your shitty autism meta.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2020 14:55:24 No.45158832 Report

Quoted By: >>45161254

>>45156966
>VGC
>Tapus
>dragon water sprout is good
No

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2020 15:51:46 No.45159271 Report

Quoted By: >>45162401

>>45150384
>but I wanted a 200 BP move with auto crit, 100% hit, +5 priority that gives +2 to all stat aftre each use!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2020 19:01:58 No.45161254 Report

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>>45158832
That doesn't make it bad.
That just means it's not completely broken.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2020 19:15:37 No.45161388 Report

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>>45151647
How would that work?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2020 20:55:47 No.45162401 Report

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>>45159271
This but unironically.
If they actually end up with 50 speed, they'll need it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2020 20:58:39 No.45162439 Report

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>>45150625
>new regis destroy the lore around regigigas
>regilover who likes the new ones

kill your mom and kill yourself

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Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2020 21:02:30 No.45162480 Report

Quoted By: >>45162786

>>45151647
How does this make Registeel good?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2020 21:24:53 No.45162760 Report

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>>45151279
Holy fuck you are not only retarded but also a brainlet
Another example of burger education

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2020 21:26:59 No.45162786 Report

Quoted By: >>45162818

>>45162480
For the same reason Block Pyukumuku is good

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Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2020 21:29:13 No.45162818 Report

Quoted By: >>45162996

>>45162786
and THAT reason is?

pls anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2020 21:43:36 No.45162996 Report

Quoted By: >>45163364

>>45162818
Stall.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2020 22:05:49 No.45163364 Report

Quoted By: >>45163575

>>45162996
>force opponent to stay in
>can't recover
>get EQ'd
And this makes Registeel good...how?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2020 22:17:16 No.45163575 Report

Quoted By: >>45163757

>>45163364
Trap an opponent who doesn't have EQ, obviously.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2020 22:28:23 No.45163757 Report

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>>45163575
>Opponent used (Fighting/Fire type move)!
There must be something else to this Regipass cause it sounds shit so far

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2020 23:46:50 No.45165100 Report

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Why should these two fags get unique abilities and signature moves when Regirock, Regice and Registeel don't?

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