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Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2020 20:45:51 No.45177497 View View Reply Original Report

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It's about time Pokemon deviated from the traditional Water/Grass/Fire starting types.

I propose Dark/Fighting/Psychic

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2020 20:46:12 No.45177504 Report

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I agree.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2020 20:46:42 No.45177511 Report

Quoted By: >>45179377

And yes, I am aware X/Y already did this, but I want pure Dark/Fighting/Psychic

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Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2020 20:48:48 No.45177540 Report

Quoted By: >>45177556 >>45177559

Yeah but now one starter (fighting) gets an assload of a headstart while the other two don't become relevant til midgame

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Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2020 20:49:13 No.45177544 Report

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>>45177497
>one type is immune to the other
trash concept, pick different types

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2020 20:50:03 No.45177556 Report

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>>45177540
I really don't think that shit matters in a game where you can catch other mons within minutes of getting a starter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2020 20:50:12 No.45177559 Report

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>>45177540
So decrease the amount of earlygame Normal-types and put in some ghosts, fairies and bugs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2020 20:50:20 No.45177560 Report

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>>45177497
See
>>45177544
It would have to be some shit like Flying, Fighting, Rock.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2020 20:50:43 No.45177565 Report

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>>45177497
fighting rock flying is better, its even associated with stats (attack, defence, speed)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2020 20:51:04 No.45177570 Report

Quoted By: >>45177982

Thats been the classic "lets mix the starters' types up!" type trio since forever

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2020 20:51:43 No.45177573 Report

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>>45177497
Fighting/Flying/Rock is the only one that doesn't include Grass or Fire, as far as I remember.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2020 20:51:48 No.45177575 Report

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>>45177497
Remember when we were kids and we all thought the Gen 4 starters would do this

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2020 20:51:49 No.45177577 Report

Quoted By: >>45177646 >>45179429

Fighting, Ice and Flying is the way to go
Or fighting, fairy and steel

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2020 20:56:43 No.45177646 Report

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>>45177577
dubs

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Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2020 20:58:23 No.45177661 Report

Quoted By: >>45177693 >>45177727

>>45177497
One cool starter mix up would be to make the starters counter their counters a gain like gen 4 tried. One potential trio I like is:
Grass/Steel
Water/Fighting
Fire/Fairy
Each is weak to the secondary type of their strength and the primary type of their weakness.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2020 21:01:07 No.45177693 Report

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>>45177661
>but muh 4x weakness to fire!

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Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2020 21:02:35 No.45177707 Report

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>>45177497
This is a game for children. The starter types exist to teach literal newcomers to the series how type matchups work. Fighting/psychic/dark isn’t as intuitive and it includes an immunity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2020 21:03:47 No.45177726 Report

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>>45177497
I seriously hope they do this even if it’s for one generation

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2020 21:04:02 No.45177727 Report

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>>45177661
>Grass/ Steel
Neutral at best to Fire/ Fairy, SE to Water/ Fighting
>Water/ Fighting
SE on Grass/ Steel, SE on Fire/ Fairy
>Fire/ Fairy
4x SE on Grass/ Steel, SE on Water/ Fighting

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2020 21:05:21 No.45177739 Report

Quoted By: >>45177757 >>45177823 >>45178108

It's about time dumb cunts like you need to realise they keep to Grass/Fire/Water as it's the easiest way to introduce kids to their elemental tic-tac-toe.

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Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2020 21:06:41 No.45177757 Report

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>>45177739
Yes we know why it’s being done, that doesn’t make it necessary or even a good thing.

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Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2020 21:10:17 No.45177797 Report

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>>45177757
So? They don't give a shti for you, hence why it's never going to change (and even when they DDID mix it up, you retards played into their marketing blitz, as they specifically made the starter with the immunity the literal tits, just because it was a Japanese boy's wet dream trifecta (edgy, ninja, frog) and you all went along for the ride. No thanks, I'd rather stick to what e do have - makes more retards like you seethe, I'm all for it.

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Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2020 21:11:31 No.45177811 Report

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>>45177544
How does it matter?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2020 21:12:35 No.45177823 Report

Quoted By: >>45177870

>>45177707
>>45177739
>>45177797
>The starter types exist to teach literal newcomers to the series how type matchups work
Yeah, that must be why the most child friendly game in the series has an Electric and Normal type starter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2020 21:13:24 No.45177833 Report

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>>45177497
i propose rock ground flying

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Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2020 21:14:09 No.45177840 Report

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>>45177811
Because the idea of the starter trio is to teach kids resistances/weaknesses and they throwing in an immunity because 20 years ago Psychic needed a nerf isn't immediately obvious to a 6yo, you tube. The kids need to understand how to play the fucking games first and foremost.

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Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2020 21:16:40 No.45177870 Report

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>>45177823
You mean the same one that didn't require you to use it to catch pokémon, encouraged you to think about type matchups by telling you to catch a grass type for Brock before entering his gym and in all was handholdy enough to allow 3 yo's to play it solo?
Funny how their "proper" efforts, their core games still haven't broken this tradition yet, isn't it?

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Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2020 21:24:29 No.45177964 Report

Quoted By: >>45178088

>>45177840
>Because the idea of the starter trio is to teach kids resistances/weaknesses
An immunity is a resistance.

>isn't immediately obvious to a 6yo
Yes it is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2020 21:25:44 No.45177980 Report

Quoted By: >>45178069

>>45177870
>You mean the same one that didn't require you to use it to catch pokémon, encouraged you to think about type matchups by telling you to catch a grass type for Brock before entering his gym and in all was handholdy enough to allow 3 yo's to play it solo?
Yes. Meaning you don't need "hurr it needs to be F/W/G so little Timmy can learn type match ups."

>their core games still haven't broken this tradition yet, isn't it?
Let's Go is a core game.

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Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2020 21:26:23 No.45177982 Report

Quoted By: >>45178094 >>45178099

>>45177570
nigga what, Psy/Fight/Dark has only been done once in x/y

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Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2020 21:33:26 No.45178069 Report

Quoted By: >>45179440

>>45177980
>Let's Go is a core game
Where's the abilities? You know, the things that had an effect on the game since Gen III? They called it mainline alright, but they also called Gen VIII their core game.

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Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2020 21:33:30 No.45178070 Report

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>>45177559
>put in some ghosts
You want the game to start in a cemetery?

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Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2020 21:34:46 No.45178088 Report

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>>45177964
There is nothing intuitive about "fighting beats dark"

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2020 21:35:11 No.45178094 Report

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>>45177982
I mean that is the classic type trio when people start a "lets change the starting types" conversation. I remember fakemon starters being made with those types back in the day.

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Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2020 21:35:20 No.45178099 Report

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>>45177982
It's been a thing for fakemon design since gen 4

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Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2020 21:35:47 No.45178108 Report

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>>45177739
only when the dynamic between the players starter and the rivals starter is given a platform to be noticed, the new games forgo anything like that in favour of text boxes popping up every five minutes

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Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2020 21:41:26 No.45178167 Report

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>>45177497
So you're not only unimaginative because that's the most often proposed trio, but you're as ignorant as everyone who keeps proposing this.
This trio doesn't work because dark is immune to psychic but psychic isn't immune to fighting and fighting isn't immune to dark. It doesn't work. You can't use psychic because none of the types super effective against it also resist it. You also can't use dark because the only other type weak to it is ghost and there's nothing ghost is super effective against that it also resists.
If you want to use fighting then the other two types have to be rock and flying or steel and fairy.

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Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2020 21:50:23 No.45178287 Report

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>>45177497
how original you may be the first to ever make such a wild and out there suggestion

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Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2020 23:01:44 No.45179263 Report

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>>45177497
> Not having Grass/Dragon, Fire/Dragon, Water/Dragon.

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Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2020 23:09:39 No.45179377 Report

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>>45177511
Didn't do it right. Water/Fighting Grass/Dark Fire/ Psychic is a perfect balance

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Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2020 23:10:32 No.45179401 Report

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>>45177811
because it's an unfair advantage to one starter

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Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2020 23:12:21 No.45179429 Report

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>>45177577
>>45178167
>If you want to use fighting then the other two types have to be rock and flying or steel and fairy
but fighting doesn't resist steel

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Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2020 23:12:41 No.45179437 Report

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Grass/Steel, Water/Rock, Fire/Ground. Fuck it, give them 4x weaknesses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2020 23:12:59 No.45179440 Report

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>>45178069
>Where's the abilities?
Holy shit bros Red, Blue, Gold, and Crystal aren't core games!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2020 23:16:43 No.45179497 Report

Quoted By: >>45179898

>>45179401
How? You would never use a resisted move anyway.

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Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2020 23:29:53 No.45179703 Report

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Rock-Flying-Fighting is the only one I think of that has the same exact relations to FWG
Steel-Rock-Fire is also good (only difference is that rock doesn’t resist itself but that doesn’t really affect anything)
Ice-Grass-Rock has no resistances but still have an equal triangle going on, also again only Rock doesn’t resist itself

A few others that are ok but have slight imbalances with resistances:
Fairy-Fighting-Steel
Bug-Grass-Rock
Electric-Water-Ground
Psychic-Dark-Fighting

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2020 23:42:04 No.45179898 Report

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>>45179497
What if I am out of PP and all that's left are the resisted moves? Compare that to an immune move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2020 23:43:33 No.45179927 Report

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>>45177497
No. Dark is immune to Psychic so that doesn't work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2020 23:45:21 No.45179957 Report

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>>45178070
yes.

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Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2020 23:47:47 No.45180011 Report

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>>45177497
Anyone else remember these guys all the way from 2006?

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