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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 01:51:58 No.45263038 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>45263046 >>45263106 >>45263161 >>45263205 >>45263435 >>45263448 >>45264611 >>45265045 >>45266849 >>45271231

Why other children franchises could make dark stories and creepy evil characters but pokemon can't take a risk of making non-friendly rivals?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 01:52:57 No.45263046 Report

Quoted By: >>45263061

>>45263038
let me know when those other childrens franchises rake in as much money as pokemon and I’ll tell you

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 01:53:35 No.45263056 Report

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What makes you think they WANT to do it?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 01:54:05 No.45263061 Report

Quoted By: >>45263479 >>45263643

>>45263046
other franchises don't have mindless consoomers, that's why

also, Yu-Gi-Oh! is one of highest grossing franchises of all time

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 01:56:12 No.45263076 Report

Quoted By: >>45263109 >>45263126

It's not like that prevents faggots from publishing degenerate mind break rape doujins.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 01:59:24 No.45263106 Report

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>>45263038
Pokemon is supposed to be for dumb babies

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 01:59:56 No.45263109 Report

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>>45263076
Mind break rape is not dark, creepy, or evil.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 02:01:17 No.45263126 Report

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>>45263076
Yami Marik wasn't about mind rape
he was sadistic as everyone who loses against their souls suffers and they are imprisoned in Shadow Realm

that was totally dark for a children show

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 02:04:12 No.45263161 Report

Quoted By: >>45263459

>>45263038
Pokemon is pretty light-hearted, all things considered. The games that try too hard to be edgy and serious usually fall flat, because mainline Pokemon games aren't very story-focused to begin with. That isn't saying a dark Pokemon game wouldn't work but it would need to be done very well and in a very specific way for it to not come across as completely silly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 02:10:05 No.45263205 Report

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>>45263038
>all kids stuff is the same
yugioh and the like is aimed at older kids, 10 and older while pokemon is aimed at kids even younger than that. the west tends to blur that together but in japan there's definitely a distinction

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 02:37:38 No.45263435 Report

Quoted By: >>45263445 >>45263454 >>45263553

>>45263038
So we are just going to ignore Lysandre, Ghetsis, and the crazed maniac that is Rose?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 02:39:08 No.45263445 Report

Quoted By: >>45263565

>>45263435
>crazed maniac that is Rose
all he did is canceled a match because of a problem that wasn't happening in thousands of years

he's the shittiest villain in the series

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 02:39:29 No.45263448 Report

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>>45263038
Pokemon definitely has its fare share of ghoulish stories and psychopathic characters, we’ve gotten them as villains for the past 4 generations. Let’s stop acting as if Pokemon is purely KO’d friendly

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 02:40:00 No.45263454 Report

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>>45263435
There's no way Rose is on the same tier as Ghetsis or Lysandre

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 02:40:38 No.45263459 Report

Quoted By: >>45263525 >>45264046

>>45263161
It would only come across as silly because Pokémon fans literally cannot handle anything even remotely serious. It has nothing to do with previous attempts and all to do with the fanbase having the emotional maturity of a 5 year old.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 02:44:11 No.45263479 Report

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>>45263061
Excactly. And the goal of any franchise is to breed and maintain a group of loyal, mindless consumers providing equity value for its shareholders.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 02:50:07 No.45263525 Report

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>>45263459
I don't really think that's the case, in a world like Pokemon's something like Cyrus wanting to commit omnicide, Team Magma/Aqua being comfortable with genocide (or just being so retarded they don't realize the implications of raising or lowering sea levels in a region that is half on or below sea level), Lysandre being comfortable deploying a superweapon that runs on life force with the intent of annihilating both people and Pokemon, etc. are plenty dark. How much darker does it really need to be? Do we need to see characters get killed on-screen in a Pokemon game? Do we need a villain that is a serial killer? It's not a matter of the fanbase being unable to handle it, it's just not really necessary. Pokemon at its core is about adventure and exploration, building a team that helps you overcome your obstacles. There's obviously room for antagonism in this formula but the idea that it needs to be dark and gritty or some world-ending threat is just plain wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 02:53:14 No.45263553 Report

Quoted By: >>45263595 >>45263619

>>45263435
Reminder that
>Giovanni
Stereotypical money and power gangster
>Archie
Expand the sea at the expense of land
>Maxie
Expand the sea at the expanse of the sea
>Cyrus
Create a world without emotion because autism
>Ghetsis
Be the only one with any pokemon because cartoon villainy
>Lysandre
Kill all humans because depression
>Guzma
Be a nuisance because inadequacy
>Lusamine
Go to other dimensions to get high
>Rose
Give his homeland electricity

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 02:54:06 No.45263565 Report

Quoted By: >>45265140

>>45263445
He enacted a doomsday plan that was meant to fix a problem that wasn’t going to happen for a thousand years, endangering the lives of everyone in the entire region

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 02:56:44 No.45263595 Report

Quoted By: >>45263629 >>45266235 >>45266695

>>45263553
>Stereotypical money and power gangster
Giovanni wanted power, that's why he tried to steal the Master Ball and created Mewtwo.

>Be the only one with any pokemon because cartoon villainy
he wanted to take pokemon from Unova people so he can rule Unova easily without much resistance

>Go to other dimensions to get high
she wanted to create a paradise for all pokemon but her opening portals for aliens made things worse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 02:59:08 No.45263619 Report

Quoted By: >>45263655

>>45263553
>>Rose
>Give his homeland electricity
It wasn't electricity, it was Dynamax energy, AKA Galar particles. And he was worrying about an energy crisis that was LITERALLY a thousand years away. His actions would have been justifiable if the crisis was imminent but it just wasn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 02:59:51 No.45263629 Report

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>>45263595
Yeah I said that, just shorter. And don't forget that Lusamine was affected by Niheligo toxin in the past so she's been craving more for literally years

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 03:01:08 No.45263643 Report

Quoted By: >>45263666

>>45263061
Holy fucking shit. What is wrong with these people? This is beyond being a fan. This is advanced mental illness. What the fuck?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 03:02:50 No.45263655 Report

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>>45263619
Not her but dynamax energy is used to power everything in Galar so there has to be a way to convert it to electricity.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 03:04:01 No.45263666 Report

Quoted By: >>45264535 >>45264684

>>45263643
swsh fans are not real humans

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 03:49:20 No.45264046 Report

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>>45263459
Nah, villains are allowed to be pretty sinister and side quests can have sadness or dark subject matter. The world overall is just made to be enthusiastic and friendly and fairly utopian. It's hard to make edgy material without rubbing hard up against that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 04:42:41 No.45264535 Report

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>>45263666
the devil lies

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 04:51:58 No.45264611 Report

Quoted By: >>45264655 >>45266863

>>45263038
>Yugioh
>Kids franchise
Just the anime, the manga had Yugi killing people left and right.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 04:55:56 No.45264655 Report

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>>45264611
He only has a few kills throughout the series. Most of his penalty games were traumatic but ultimately nonlethal

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 04:56:04 No.45264657 Report

Quoted By: >>45264673

How does Ghetsis rank in the Yugioh-verse of villains?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 04:58:48 No.45264673 Report

Quoted By: >>45264978

>>45264657
Solidly GX-tier

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 05:00:07 No.45264684 Report

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>>45263666
Fact: anyone who uses virgin/can't get laid as an insult is, unironically, an actual virgin

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 05:31:19 No.45264978 Report

Quoted By: >>45266757

>>45264673
Like this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 05:38:53 No.45265045 Report

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>>45263038
yugioh original series is a horror manga

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 05:43:36 No.45265074 Report

Quoted By: >>45265111

Even fucking Kirby is darker than Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 05:50:51 No.45265111 Report

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>>45265074
don't forget dark matter in dreamland 3 and 64. a being that can no longer feel positive emotions and seeks to spread its misery across the universe. zero's eye erupts from its body in a bloody explosion to chase kirby around in dreamland 3. and in 64 his eye bleeds when you shoot it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 05:56:29 No.45265140 Report

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>>45263565
If he just waited an hour he would have been good

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 05:56:57 No.45265141 Report

Quoted By: >>45265147 >>45266653

man yugiohtards really are a plague aren't they? even on outside threads they shit up things

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 05:58:45 No.45265147 Report

Quoted By: >>45265155

>>45265141
You should report their threads instead of bumping them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 06:00:55 No.45265155 Report

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>>45265147
no not just threads, whenever they post something (not just in this board) they somehow shit everything up and make it about them

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 10:05:36 No.45266235 Report

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>>45263595
>Giovanni wanted power, that's why he tried to steal the Master Ball and [headcanon]
Except he didn't do the last bit, dumbass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 11:47:55 No.45266653 Report

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>>45265141
Obsessed and rent free

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 11:59:29 No.45266695 Report

Quoted By: >>45266718

>>45263595
>that's why he tried to steal the Master Ball and created Mewtwo.
Mewtwo being created on Team Rocket's dollar was anime-only. Outside of LGPE, it's not even implied that they know Mewtwo even exists. Giovanni just wants the Master Ball's technology because it will enable him to capture any Pokemon that he comes across, no matter how powerful it is, with ease and add it to his army.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 12:02:29 No.45266718 Report

Quoted By: >>45266750

>>45266695
Who created Mewtwo in the game lore then?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 12:08:29 No.45266750 Report

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>>45266718
It's heavily implied throughout the games to be Mr. Fuji. Blaine has a picture with "Dr. Fuji" that the player character reacts to with shock. On Faraway Island in Emerald, there's an old sign with a faded signature that says "-ji". Possibly more things I can't remember at the moment.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 12:09:54 No.45266757 Report

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>>45264978
I was thinking more Kagemaru from season one, but Sartorious is close too. Kagemaru wanted to use some magic to become young at the expense of nobody else being able to yugioh anymore

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 12:19:49 No.45266823 Report

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>single thread with 36 replies that's still about pokemon
>aaaaaa yugiohtards!
Come on, son

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 12:23:06 No.45266849 Report

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>>45263038
The manga got the character of Marik best, the Anime heavily toned down his ruthlessness since they removed parts like him going to have Tea/Anzu swallow a suicide pill while the dub turned him a generic world conquering shadow realm obsessed clown with a deep as fuck voice

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 12:25:07 No.45266863 Report

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>>45264611
>Just the anime, the manga had Yugi killing people left and right.
Pokemon manga isn't that different from Yugi manga
it's much darker and there's a part where Giovanni mercilessly killing 2 Magmar by freezing them and smashing them

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 17:20:46 No.45269065 Report

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they do have dark lores, it's just in the front and center.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 20:50:11 No.45271231 Report

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>>45263038
Because that goes against the branding. But I agree, would be cool. It’ll never happen though

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