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What's wrong with new pokemon?

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 11:08:59 No.45278466 View View Reply Original Report

They were designed so that they could be easily modelled. 3D ruined pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 11:12:38 No.45278481 Report

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>>45278466
I would’ve totally kept one if it looked like the right. What a shame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 11:20:07 No.45278505 Report

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>>45278466
Galarian Donphan on the right there would be basically as easy to model as Copperajah though
mons like Coalossal are also covered in weird lumps and bumps and they turned out just fine, Copperajah is just a weird design to begin with

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 11:21:48 No.45278515 Report

Quoted By: >>45278559 >>45278580 >>45284628 >>45286693 >>45289429

>>45278466
This is not true.
Have you seen Eternatus? Zamazenta?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 11:27:55 No.45278537 Report

Quoted By: >>45278559 >>45278799 >>45282406

>>45278466
You're fake design is way worse. It looks like that shitty italian cartoon Gormiti.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 11:31:57 No.45278549 Report

Quoted By: >>45278559 >>45278582

>>45278505
Easy to model, but not as easy to make toys out of.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 11:34:32 No.45278559 Report

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>>45278515
>>45278537
>>45278549
Stop posting things that contradict OP, we need more reason to seethe shills

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 11:38:48 No.45278580 Report

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>>45278515
>Have you seen Eternatus? Zamazenta?
they look great compared to lego elephant

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 11:39:14 No.45278582 Report

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>>45278549
i mean, that hasn't stopped them this gen either

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 11:44:26 No.45278602 Report

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>>45278582
Of course if attention is brought to the mon (like a gigantamax) then they would go all out

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 11:46:11 No.45278609 Report

Quoted By: >>45278778

>>45278505
Do you 3D model? I don't, but based off what i know, it looks like the one on the left would be far easier to model.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 12:25:49 No.45278778 Report

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>>45278609
that shill obviously doesn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 12:27:21 No.45278792 Report

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Eh right looks like something I'd see in a ripoff

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 12:28:56 No.45278799 Report

Quoted By: >>45278877

>>45278537
Gormiti was Italian?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 12:30:06 No.45278802 Report

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>>45278466
Copperajah’s design mixes in aspects of excavators and copper elephant decorations. Its cuboid body is a reference to the cab of an excavator.

Although I love the second one, tumours aside.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 12:34:25 No.45278830 Report

Quoted By: >>45278848 >>45278853 >>45282390

>>45278466
>3D ruined pokemon.
Second gen already did that, faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 12:37:43 No.45278848 Report

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>>45278830
Xatu being able to fly was a mistake

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 12:39:39 No.45278853 Report

Quoted By: >>45278878 >>45280976

>>45278830
She is a totem not an actual bird

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 12:43:19 No.45278870 Report

Quoted By: >>45279293

It's like somebody smashed Terriakion and Donphan together.
Never try and re-design pokémon, it's clear you ignore their ruleset too, which is the crux of making a design look like a pokémon, not some fan fusion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 12:46:27 No.45278877 Report

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>>45278799
I had to google it to remember the name and I found out it was italian.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 12:46:35 No.45278878 Report

Quoted By: >>45279431 >>45288957

>>45278853
It is a bird that appears like a totem, the fact the devs let it learn Fly yet didn't let its pre-evo learn it shows even the devs see it that way (otherwise they wouldn't have let it learn it).
Cope better with reality.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 13:19:34 No.45279062 Report

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>>45278466
Didn't Masuda or someone state that their design philosophy was that a Pokémon has to have a gimmick or something that takes away from the edge a little bit so thay it isn't just a fantasy animal? I think that approach is fine, but it feels like they've focused more on the gimmicks rather than the core designs in some cases. Like, a middle geound between the two in your pic would be great since Copoerajah feels too weird but the redesign while cooler lacks any inspiration or uniqueness that makes Pokémon interesting in the first case.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 13:55:36 No.45279261 Report

Quoted By: >>45288780

>>45278466
The one on the right actually looks fantastic, easily would’ve made it the best gen 8 pokemon by far

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 13:59:30 No.45279293 Report

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>>45278870
It is happen when fans avoid to know designs are made to do a certain roles and only think on them as things that must look too perfect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 14:17:44 No.45279431 Report

Quoted By: >>45279467 >>45279471

>>45278878
Whether it is able to learn fly or not has nothing to do with whether it is a bird or a totem.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 14:23:00 No.45279467 Report

Quoted By: >>45279540

>>45279431
And it's a bird that looks like a totem, just like Vanilite and its evos are ice beings that look like ice-cream. Not fucking rocket science dipshit, especially when Natu was a bird and not a statue that grew bigger.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 14:23:28 No.45279471 Report

Quoted By: >>45279540

>>45279431
Different anon
In gen 2, the gold and silver sprites show different wing position.
In crystal, the wings are animated to move
In emerald xatu flaps its wings.

It's a bird that looks like a totem. Only a zoomer who has never seen classic xatu sprites would think xatu is a totem of a bird

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 14:25:59 No.45279492 Report

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>>45278466
Nice Spectrobe

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 14:27:05 No.45279506 Report

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>>45278466
Based and checked

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 14:30:19 No.45279540 Report

Quoted By: >>45279574

>>45279467
>>45279471
I mean its obviously a bird and not a totem lol wtf are y'all trying to prove?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 14:33:23 No.45279574 Report

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>>45279540
>She is a totem not an actual bird
>hurr durr i was pretending to be retarded
I'm not trying to prove anything, I personally find it fun to shit on retards

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 15:15:32 No.45279945 Report

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>>45278466
your picture literally says the opposite of your point

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 15:20:15 No.45279983 Report

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>>45278466
There’s nothing wrong with Copperajah. One of the best designs this gen. Right design is boring.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 17:13:07 No.45280976 Report

Quoted By: >>45282536

>>45278853
>She

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 17:16:16 No.45281005 Report

Quoted By: >>45281248

>>45278466
>give thing a distinctive shape that fits its theme instead of making it into a generic forgettable overdesigned blob
>NOOOOO THEY DID IT JUST TO EASILY MODEL THEM
please take a design class before posting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 17:17:25 No.45281018 Report

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Left Copperajah is better and more distinct in every way though. Right is "traditionally cool' but also extremely forgetable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 17:18:26 No.45281025 Report

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Copperajah's trunk alone has richer geometry to it than Magnemite's entire body. You're overreacting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 17:19:04 No.45281032 Report

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>>45278466
Nah, awkwardly square elephant isn’t as forgettable as literally just my mom’s animal with element

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 17:24:14 No.45281082 Report

Quoted By: >>45288901

Anyone that tries to say that this wasn't designed in 3D first is a filthy shill.

It's like babby's first AutoCad model.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 17:40:55 No.45281248 Report

Quoted By: >>45282941 >>45283127 >>45284454

>>45281005
>hur dur generic bad
is this the new meme zoomers are pushing nowadays to justify liking shit designs? most kantomons are "generic" and yet anyone with two fuctioning braicells can at least name ten of them withouth even playing the games cause they're all memorables for multiple reasons that anyone from any age group can like. if your mon only memorable trait is "OMFG, LE FUNNY CUBE MEME XDDDDDZNUT!" than it's gonna be forgotten in no time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 19:24:52 No.45282390 Report

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>>45278830
Talonflame still has simple wings though. Compare them with Pidegot or Fearow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 19:26:46 No.45282406 Report

Quoted By: >>45282433

>>45278537
It's literally the same design but more detailed and better proportioned.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 19:30:20 No.45282433 Report

Quoted By: >>45282495

>>45282406
The redesign looks like a really bland cartoon Monster elephant from some one-season 90s show. Copperajah looks like a Pokémon, the right one looks like a toy and the “improvements” take away all the unique features of the design. The complaint is that Cop looks like a cube? How is this a problem?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 19:36:35 No.45282485 Report

Quoted By: >>45282733 >>45282810 >>45282830 >>45282885 >>45283002 >>45283065 >>45283108 >>45284418 >>45284430 >>45289618 >>45290109

Copperajah is suppose to be a stained copper square teapot elephant, so whether or not you think the execution could be better, the right one takes the teapot inspiration out of the equation entirely and makes it just a bumpy elephant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 19:38:14 No.45282495 Report

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>>45282433
>Copperajah looks like a Pokémon
lmao it looks like an awful fakemon.
>the right one looks like a toy
Not really, especially beside fucking COPPERAJAH of all things
>How is this a problem?
because it's a toy

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 19:42:14 No.45282536 Report

Quoted By: >>45288944

>>45280976
That is a female Xatu, yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 19:48:28 No.45282589 Report

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>>45278582
How much?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 20:01:30 No.45282733 Report

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>>45282485
yeah sorry OP but this anon just blasted your ass beyond repair. You have to realize its not just about making "muh fierce animal" but a combination of creatures and inspiration drawn from real life settings/objects/culture.

im gonna say this anon is based and I'd be friends with him

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 20:10:04 No.45282810 Report

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>>45282485
Based concept chad

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 20:12:13 No.45282830 Report

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>>45282485
Based reasonable conceptfag.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 20:17:32 No.45282885 Report

Quoted By: >>45282902 >>45283065

>>45282485
Here, I think you dropped the part where you mentioned that the thing you're talking about actually looks a lot more like the one on the right than the left in terms of overall proportions and shape.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 20:18:46 No.45282902 Report

Quoted By: >>45282981 >>45284430

>>45282885
No, I'm pretty sure I didn't say it was based off an elephant shaped teapot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 20:22:57 No.45282941 Report

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>>45281248
Nice ad populum faggot,the kantomon are only memorable because they were the first ones to be created and had time to settle in the collective unconscious

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 20:26:50 No.45282981 Report

Quoted By: >>45282995

>>45282902
>the elephant isn't supposed to be an elephant
well there's your problem and that's why it looks like shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 20:28:22 No.45282995 Report

Quoted By: >>45283044

>>45282981
It's the elephant is suppose to take inspiration from box teapots, not the elephant is suppose to take inspiration from elephants.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 20:29:09 No.45283002 Report

Quoted By: >>45283046

>>45282485
>Duraludon is suppose to be a retarded toilet cigarette lighter skyscraper dragon, so whether or not you think the execution could be better, the redesigns take the retarded toilet cigarette lighter inspiration out of the equation entirely and makes it just a bumpy dragon

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 20:34:03 No.45283044 Report

Quoted By: >>45283089 >>45283105

>>45282995
If it's supposed to be based on a teapot (which you have given no substantial reason to believe) then why does its trunk look nothing like either a teapot's or an elephant's?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 20:34:19 No.45283046 Report

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>>45283002
Nobody is talking about Duraludon. I didn't even know what it's supposed to be

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 20:37:25 No.45283065 Report

Quoted By: >>45283104 >>45284830

>>45282485
>>45282885
???
Cufant is the teapot. Copperajah is an excavator

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 20:39:06 No.45283089 Report

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>>45283044
Poor execution, another inspiration because some Pokemon draw inspiration from multiple things, could be a number of reasons.
Also Cufant looks like small teapot crossed with an elephant so it's evolved form being a bigger teapot isn't a big stretch of the imagination.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 20:40:10 No.45283104 Report

Quoted By: >>45288694

>>45283065
Or they both could be both, teapot elepahants with shovel trunks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 20:40:14 No.45283105 Report

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>>45283044
Because it have not only one design origin? I mean it is a teapot + copper Indian elephant figurine + excavator

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 20:40:28 No.45283108 Report

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>>45282485
One gen has two different Pokemon based on teapots. That's still bad design.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 20:42:50 No.45283127 Report

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>>45281248
>implying anything from genwun would be memorable if it wasn’t genwun

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 22:49:26 No.45284418 Report

Quoted By: >>45284443 >>45284645

>>45282485
Copperajah does not look like a teapot at all though. The teapot influence is completely gone once Cufant evolves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 22:50:30 No.45284430 Report

Quoted By: >>45284456

>>45282485
>Copperajah is suppose to be a stained copper square teapot elephant,

>>45282902
You did?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 22:51:24 No.45284443 Report

Quoted By: >>45284550

>>45284418
I still see a box teapot in there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 22:52:25 No.45284454 Report

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>>45281248
>most kantomons are "generic"
Stopped reading there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 22:52:40 No.45284456 Report

Quoted By: >>45284483

>>45284430
stained copper square teapot elephant as in square teapot + elephant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 22:55:44 No.45284483 Report

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>>45284456
And before you say, that is opposed to elephant shaped teapot + elephant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 23:00:42 No.45284521 Report

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It's a square teapot and the elephant is an animal associated with royalty, the design is still stupid

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 23:03:16 No.45284550 Report

Quoted By: >>45284574

>>45284443
Confirmation bias at play.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 23:05:43 No.45284574 Report

Quoted By: >>45284630

>>45284550
I could say the same for you saying it doesn't have it at all even though you acknowledging Cufant has teapot qualities means that those traits would be added upon during it's evolution, like it's shovel trunk becoming a steam shovel trunk. Regardless, square teapots come in various forms so it's not hard to see it in there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 23:10:23 No.45284614 Report

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>>45278466
I get the sentiment, but the proposed “fix” for this design misses and concept (which is good just needs to be executed better), and looks sickeningly generic. Like something from a shitty flash mobile game.
Some gen 1 and 2 pokemon that are held to such high regard may be “generic” in THEIR concepts, but their stylization and art direction is irreplaceable. It’s like the opposite issue, but it matters less because people will always care more about what they see more than the idea.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 23:10:39 No.45284616 Report

Quoted By: >>45290158

>>45278466
Because these statues are its design Origin your redesign looks way worse in my opinion

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 23:12:42 No.45284628 Report

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>>45278515
This.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 23:12:53 No.45284630 Report

Quoted By: >>45284645 >>45288797 >>45288974

>>45284574
>you acknowledging Cufant has teapot qualities
except I never said that, shitter
Cufant is pretty clearly an exercise ball

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 23:14:21 No.45284645 Report

Quoted By: >>45284725

>>45284630
>>45284418
>The teapot influence is completely gone once Cufant evolves

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 23:25:15 No.45284725 Report

Quoted By: >>45284740

>>45284645
>implying

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 23:26:29 No.45284740 Report

Quoted By: >>45284787

>>45284725
>implying

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 23:30:40 No.45284787 Report

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>>45284740
ok schizo

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 23:35:21 No.45284830 Report

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>>45283065
I think it's pretty clear they are both of those things. Cufant's trunk is a shovel but his body is clearly teapoty

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Oct 2020 03:29:08 No.45286693 Report

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>>45278515
but eternatus's design is easy to model, its a skeleton without bones, just lazy triangles

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Oct 2020 03:30:49 No.45286708 Report

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>>45278466
ehh the one on the right looks like some kind of neopet but i get your point

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Oct 2020 08:39:56 No.45288694 Report

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>>45283104
thats quite an out there combination ngl no wonder it looks like shit either way

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Anonymous Sat 31 Oct 2020 08:55:12 No.45288780 Report

Quoted By: >>45288792 >>45289512

>>45279261
nah

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Oct 2020 08:57:35 No.45288792 Report

Quoted By: >>45288802 >>45288964

>>45288780
this doesn't even look like a pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Oct 2020 08:58:37 No.45288797 Report

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>>45284630
>Cufant is pretty clearly an exercise ball
based

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Anonymous Sat 31 Oct 2020 09:00:39 No.45288802 Report

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>>45288792
>this doesn't even look like a pokemon
how to spot someone that didn't play past gen 5

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Oct 2020 09:22:25 No.45288901 Report

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>>45281082
That design is atrocious. It looks like someone poorly morphed it in ms paint. Why is its head so narrow?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Oct 2020 09:31:06 No.45288944 Report

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>>45282536
The gender difference is the yellow stripes. How are you sure?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Oct 2020 09:33:05 No.45288957 Report

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>>45278878
>cope better with reality
Jesus you are not only stupid but annoying as well. Arrogant. It's wings are that way because it was designed after a totem.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Oct 2020 09:34:32 No.45288964 Report

Quoted By: >>45289435

>>45288792
I hate gen 8 so much, but i like that squid

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Oct 2020 09:36:47 No.45288974 Report

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>>45284630
>Cufant is pretty clearly an exercise ball
Cufant is pretty clearly a lobster pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Oct 2020 11:17:45 No.45289429 Report

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>>45278515
Eternatus is just a load of geometric shapes slapped together, it looks like it was made in Roblox

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Oct 2020 11:18:49 No.45289435 Report

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>>45288964
what about its evolution? The prevo is tolerable but the evolution is terrible

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Oct 2020 11:35:45 No.45289512 Report

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>>45288780
I can't forgive them for ruining this thing's evolution

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Oct 2020 12:06:28 No.45289618 Report

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>>45282485
Copperajah has absolutely no other teapot elements whatsoever so it being shaped like a Minecraft mob does nothing but drag the design down

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Oct 2020 12:18:25 No.45289661 Report

Quoted By: >>45289673

>>45278466
everything has to be a jokemon now...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Oct 2020 12:22:21 No.45289673 Report

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>>45289661
Nobody posted gen 2 mons

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Oct 2020 13:31:16 No.45290028 Report

Quoted By: >>45290149

>>45278466
GF doesn't do the modeling, Creatures Inc does. Now that they no longer work together maybe Nintendo will force GF to work with modelers who can actually model

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Anonymous Sat 31 Oct 2020 13:43:18 No.45290109 Report

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>>45282485
it probably is but only made the thing look more like shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Oct 2020 13:50:05 No.45290149 Report

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>>45290028
obviously they work together or at least inconsideration of each other. they design it that way so that creatures inc can have an easier time doing the model.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Oct 2020 13:50:56 No.45290158 Report

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>>45284616
that statue doesn't look like a neon cube

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Oct 2020 13:52:34 No.45290164 Report

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>>45278466
>easily modelled.
Easily turned into toys*

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