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Anonymous Wed 04 Nov 2020 13:10:47 No.45331921 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>45332214 >>45335681 >>45335918 >>45342303

The cats and the queen of healthy meta

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Nov 2020 13:19:08 No.45331942 Report

Quoted By: >>45331976 >>45332273 >>45334277 >>45335681 >>45338483 >>45338514

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DELETE THIS VGC IS A BALANCED META WHERE NOTHING HAS HIGH USAGE AND IT'S PERFECTLY FUN AND VARIED UNLIKE YOUR FANFIC META AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Nov 2020 13:23:04 No.45331952 Report

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>Lele BTFO by Fini
It wasn't supposed to be like this bros....

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Nov 2020 13:31:30 No.45331976 Report

Quoted By: >>45332294

>>45331942
Inb4
>Hurr this but unironically ecksdee

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Nov 2020 14:03:59 No.45332128 Report

Quoted By: >>45332210 >>45332245 >>45332494 >>45333711 >>45335654

>Fini
Now i'm curious, what changed for Fini that made her above Landorus-T and Incineroar?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Nov 2020 14:22:02 No.45332210 Report

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>>45332128
>her

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Nov 2020 14:22:59 No.45332214 Report

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>>45331921
nice to see a dark type in the top3...darkfags we keep winning

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Nov 2020 14:27:44 No.45332245 Report

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>>45332128
Same old bulky set up Fini. Just Calm Mind away and spam Muddy Water.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Nov 2020 14:33:22 No.45332273 Report

Quoted By: >>45332294 >>45335681

>>45331942
This but unironically xd

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Nov 2020 14:37:28 No.45332294 Report

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>>45331976
>>45332273
Why are we bringing up Gale of Darkness?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Nov 2020 15:06:48 No.45332494 Report

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>>45332128
I think being slow, it sets up its terrain over other terrain setters, and Fairy Terrain blocks status moves, which is a great way to deal with Dynamax users. Plus it’s just strong anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Nov 2020 17:45:39 No.45333711 Report

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>>45332128
People are using Fini because everyone else is using Fini and nobody wants to be at a disadvantage. Water/Fairy is a good type though

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Nov 2020 18:53:04 No.45334277 Report

Quoted By: >>45335647 >>45335681

>>45331942
>high usage = bad
>not even 100%
this is retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Nov 2020 21:27:25 No.45335647 Report

Quoted By: >>45335834

>>45334277
44% usage is pretty bad though.
That's around the range Lando-T was floating at in gen 7 OU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Nov 2020 21:28:06 No.45335654 Report

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>>45332128
Finnagross

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Nov 2020 21:31:38 No.45335680 Report

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Fini of all things being the highest looks unironically healthy to me

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Nov 2020 21:32:10 No.45335681 Report

Quoted By: >>45335728 >>45335834

>>45331921
>>45331942
>>45332273
>>45334277
Now now, it could be worse than 44%. We've had several VGC metas where usage was over 75% :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Nov 2020 21:39:21 No.45335728 Report

Quoted By: >>45344502

>>45335681
Shut. The. Fuck. Up. Smogonfag.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Nov 2020 21:51:48 No.45335834 Report

Quoted By: >>45335873 >>45338146

>>45335647
usage is pointless vs results though, especially when unlike in smogon, you don't even use all of them despite being in a team
>>45335681
again, you assume 100% use meant everyone would pick them and win

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 04 Nov 2020 21:56:36 No.45335873 Report

Quoted By: >>45337214 >>45339857

>>45335834
No one's assuming anything, we're making fun of Pokemon for being an overly centralized game. If you wanna ignore usage and just go off results then things don't exactly look any better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Nov 2020 22:02:12 No.45335918 Report

Quoted By: >>45339899

>>45331921
Tapu Fini and Landorus arent even that good. I don't get it.
They can get one shotted like any other pokemon by based Origami.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Nov 2020 00:17:00 No.45337214 Report

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>>45335873
that's the thing, you assume usage = overcentralization. Usage just means that, usage. Incineroar has high usage but he doesn't centralize VGC, for instance. Groudon has high usage but hasn't won a damn thing (hilariously fitting if you look at memes).

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Nov 2020 02:09:21 No.45338146 Report

Quoted By: >>45338160

>>45335834
>you don't even use all of them despite being in a team
People don't just bring Fini for shits and giggles. Even if they don't use it in every battle, they still intend to use them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Nov 2020 02:11:11 No.45338160 Report

Quoted By: >>45339715

>>45338146
yes, but the point is using doesn't automatically overcentralization. incineroar wasn't altering the meta despite being the most used mon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Nov 2020 02:46:26 No.45338465 Report

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JUST GIVE IT FEW WEEKS

jesus, learn that you cannot judge the usage just by one week, people testing new stuff

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Nov 2020 02:48:38 No.45338483 Report

Quoted By: >>45338501

>>45331942
This. And these stupid shills said Shitfreak cared about balance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Nov 2020 02:50:34 No.45338501 Report

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>>45338483
because they cared, but this is a final season

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Nov 2020 02:52:11 No.45338514 Report

Quoted By: >>45338536 >>45339857 >>45340748

>>45331942
>VGC IS A BALANCED META
Not even VGC players believe this lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Nov 2020 02:55:36 No.45338536 Report

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>>45338514
Speak for yourself. Us VGChads take pride in playing a balanced, well-tuned game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Nov 2020 06:23:41 No.45339715 Report

Quoted By: >>45339835 >>45339870

>>45338160
>incineroar wasn't altering the meta
Incineroar becoming prominent in VGC 2018 led to a decrease of physical attackers compared to 2017. And attackers lean even more special in 2019, but that can also be chalked up to how stupidly good Kyogre and Xerneas are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Nov 2020 06:55:12 No.45339835 Report

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>>45339715
you got fewer physical fighters because xerneas, incineroar is just a white mage

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Nov 2020 07:01:33 No.45339857 Report

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>>45338514
More like VGC players dont care about character balance. There are many that actually prefer a more centralized meta like >>45335873 and VGC16 since there is less matchup variance and the game becomes more about execution.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Nov 2020 07:05:45 No.45339870 Report

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>>45339715
Thats not true at all. Intimidate was always a factor even in 17, when Arcanine was on like 80% of all teams at one point. Things like Kartana, Metagross, Lando, Tyranitar, Kangaskhan always had very high usage. In 2019 Groudon was at one point beating Incineroar in usage on Pikalytics stats, Rayquaza and Dusk Mane Necrozma were also very prominent.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Nov 2020 07:10:25 No.45339899 Report

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>>45335918
POST ELO.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Nov 2020 10:47:50 No.45340748 Report

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>>45338514
Overcentralized =/= unbalanced.
In fact, having a firmly established and predictable metagame has its advantages because it makes anti-meta teams viable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Nov 2020 15:36:05 No.45342245 Report

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Bump

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Anonymous Thu 05 Nov 2020 15:41:28 No.45342303 Report

Quoted By: >>45342838

>>45331921
I actually like Tapu Fini better than Kyogre. I played ultra moon and ultra warp ride is a bullshit maze. Tapu Fini was available in an easy to find location.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Nov 2020 16:46:17 No.45342838 Report

Quoted By: >>45346972

>>45342303
primal kyogre is better. too bad it can't dynamax.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Nov 2020 19:52:04 No.45344502 Report

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>>45335728
Dilate

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Nov 2020 21:36:42 No.45345390 Report

Quoted By: >>45347976 >>45349845

man, /vp/ posters would have their brains melt when they see fighting game tiers and usage

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 00:47:32 No.45346972 Report

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>>45342838
Primal Kyogre and Dynamax have never existed in the same game.
There's no reason to assume that it wouldn't be able to max if they had the chance to coexist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 03:10:59 No.45347976 Report

Quoted By: >>45350548

>>45345390
Fighting game tiers and usage aren't fanfiction though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 08:00:02 No.45349586 Report

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Bump

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 08:54:16 No.45349845 Report

Quoted By: >>45349889 >>45350907

>>45345390
Its amazing how /vp/ keeps getting filtered by one of the easiest competitive games in existance. They let anime shit live rent free in their heads too and apply that logic to PvP where everyone is trying to win.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 09:03:24 No.45349889 Report

Quoted By: >>45350854

>>45349845
Real question. How can a competitive game be easy?
A competitive game's difficulty is based entirely on how good the other players are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 11:18:39 No.45350548 Report

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>>45347976
Nah I mean even the VGC usage/tiers they're thinking it's end of the world/absolutism. Ironically the only other franchise I know of with autism towards tiers is smash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 12:28:08 No.45350854 Report

Quoted By: >>45350907

>>45349889
Easy, as in easy to master. Pokemon has high skill floor, but really low skill ceiling. It’s really just a bunch of knowledge checks since the players choice during the match is limited (moreso in singles than in doubles) and there is no execution barrier at all. I saw people beat pros within 3-4 months of getting into the game. This would never happen in games like LoL and Melee.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 12:37:16 No.45350907 Report

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>>45349845
>>45350854
>It’s really just a bunch of knowledge checks since the players choice during the match is limited (moreso in singles than in doubles) and there is no execution barrier at all.
I think this is why people obsess over tiers and usage so much in Pokemon. Due to how limited Pokemon's gameplay is it's a lot harder to win with an underdog than most modern PvP games.

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