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Anonymous Thu 05 Nov 2020 22:46:24 No.45346057 View View Reply Original Report

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An opponent who opens with dynamax metagross and tailwind tornadus?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Nov 2020 22:49:23 No.45346072 Report

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charge phone

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Nov 2020 22:50:20 No.45346078 Report

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>>45346057
>Ryhorn used Horn Drill!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Nov 2020 23:02:11 No.45346157 Report

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>Tornadus used tailwind
>Metagross used max steel
>Rhyhorn has fainted!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Nov 2020 23:04:50 No.45346180 Report

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>>45346057
What is the typical ev spread of weakness policy metagross?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Nov 2020 23:12:15 No.45346250 Report

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>>45346157
>focus sash

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Nov 2020 23:22:18 No.45346328 Report

Quoted By: >>45347071

easy just ban dynamax

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 00:49:29 No.45346986 Report

Quoted By: >>45348395

Common EV spreads for Metagross: 252 HP 252 ATT 4 DeF ATT+ SPA-

>focus sash breaks
>tornadus knocks out ryhorn

That’s the problem. The single mon that can OHKO Metagross is Wicked blow Urshifu with black glasses but that gets knocked out because of shit defense and tailwind.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 00:53:08 No.45347007 Report

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>>45346157
>Metagross threw a toy
>Rhyhorn fainted

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 01:00:53 No.45347059 Report

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>>45346057
VGC?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 01:02:25 No.45347071 Report

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>>45346328
>wanting to improve the meta instead of just developing stockholm syndrome and adapting
No. Like it or not, Dynamax is part of the game. Go back to your fanfic.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 01:04:50 No.45347086 Report

Quoted By: >>45347366 >>45348082 >>45349465

vgc is such a fucking joke.
you wouldn't even be able to tell my crop is of metagross without the context.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 01:07:10 No.45347107 Report

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Item clause exists and in this meta there are only two viable weakness policy users. I think you are mad you just can’t get past greatball tier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 01:15:41 No.45347166 Report

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Tailwind Tornadus and Urshifu, check mate

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 01:16:42 No.45347172 Report

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Not play a format with dynamax

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 01:37:28 No.45347329 Report

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The problem with tailwind urshifu is that it takes thee hits to kill dynamaxed Metagross. Not even a focus sash will help with that. That means there’s no point to having tailwind since you die on the second turn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 01:43:02 No.45347366 Report

Quoted By: >>45348388

>>45347086
That's why VGC is the laughingstock of every other format. Even Battle Stadium singles are better than VGC, it's pathetic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 03:26:49 No.45348056 Report

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>>45346057
Burn it with something bulky enough to survive a hit or pair it with a follow me or something to bait it into attacking?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 03:29:59 No.45348082 Report

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>>45347086
implying that's a bad thing

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 03:34:13 No.45348115 Report

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Knock off?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 03:36:01 No.45348129 Report

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>>45346057
I wouldn't. CHADagross is too powerful for someone like me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 03:41:33 No.45348162 Report

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soak + regieleki has beaten metagross each time for me

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 04:23:10 No.45348388 Report

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>>45347366
>Even Battle Stadium singles are better than VGC
Let's not get crazy here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 04:24:19 No.45348395 Report

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>>45346986
>he doesn't know what horn drill does

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 07:25:23 No.45349420 Report

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>>45348395
Focus sash actually does let you survive OHKO moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 07:34:56 No.45349457 Report

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>>45346057
Tornadus cant proc Weakness Policy and use Tailwind at the same time. You need to kill the genie before it gets the chance to use both. Focus on killing the other support Pokemon until Metagross Dynamax ends, then finish it off with Dark Urshifu.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 07:37:07 No.45349465 Report

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>>45347086
post elo

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Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 07:37:16 No.45349466 Report

Quoted By: >>45349921

>>45347071
lets be real, dynamax is so opressive, now battles rewards the one who uses dynamax better, rather than rewarding people who play better at pokemon

it changed the dynamic of the game a lot, which most ppl dont like, and for me, i like playing pokemon not "who is better at dynamax"

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 07:37:28 No.45349469 Report

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>>45346057
Focus sash urshifu wicked blow
Sucker punch

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 07:38:25 No.45349474 Report

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>>45346057
252+ SpA Choice Specs Transistor Regieleki Rising Voltage (140 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Dynamax Metagross in Electric Terrain: 349-412 (93.3 - 110.1%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO

Use the lightbulb.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 07:38:29 No.45349476 Report

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>>45349457
Truth

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 07:40:39 No.45349494 Report

Quoted By: >>45349502

>>45349474
If you’re going the killing Metagross way, setting up Trick Room and using Specs Eruption Torkoal offers the same thing with much better consistency.

Speaking of Sun teams, Gigantamax Charizard+redirection is also a good counter to this strategy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 07:42:52 No.45349502 Report

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>>45349494
with so much fini running around fire is a dangerous type to be.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 09:09:44 No.45349921 Report

Quoted By: >>45351354

>>45349466
>battles rewards the one who uses dynamax better, rather than rewarding people who play better at pokemon
I get what you're saying, but you should probably word it better. Someone's going to act obtuse and say that Dynamaxing is part of Pokemon so of course it should be the sole determining factor in victory.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 09:11:17 No.45349928 Report

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>>45346057
Attack the Tornadus and kill it before it uses brutal swing

if it uses brutal swing first they dont get the policy

Then go into some trick roomer or status abuser

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 13:56:05 No.45351354 Report

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>>45349921
How is that being obtuse? That's literally true, Dynamax is part of the game you don't "win except he used Dynamax better"

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 17:11:07 No.45352892 Report

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Bump.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 18:06:18 No.45353370 Report

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>>45346057
>light metal
>0.001%
There's always that 1 guy

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 18:08:29 No.45353389 Report

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>>45346057
With will-o-wisp, I guess...

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