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Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 03:15:06 No.45347998 View View Reply Original Report

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Why is Pokémon's artwork getting more CalArts-y?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 03:17:27 No.45348010 Report

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That Pidgey and Pikipek art looks great holy shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 03:18:41 No.45348014 Report

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Does it seem like this shitty bait is posted quite often.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 03:20:47 No.45348021 Report

Quoted By: >>45348106 >>45348155 >>45348448 >>45349098 >>45351506

They've characterized the two sets of pokemon: "Cool" and "Cute". Everything cute has a giant round head and a teeny body with small features. Everything cool is overdesigned with stripes and spots and random patterns. They both put too much emphasis on using circles and triangles in their final designs rather than as a base template for structure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 03:20:48 No.45348022 Report

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>>45347998
because it make them easier to draw

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 03:23:46 No.45348041 Report

Quoted By: >>45348087

>>45347998
because they make pokemon now easier for plush manufactures while old Pokemon were designed for world building

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 03:24:08 No.45348043 Report

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>>45347998
move towards inspiration from more nuanced species of plants and animals. this results in the jarring proportions that you dont see in "mainstream" animals.

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Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 03:30:24 No.45348087 Report

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>>45348041
They only make plushes for the same 20 Pokemon anyway. Even when they did make plushies of not very popular pokes, they just changed the designs around anyway.

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Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 03:33:14 No.45348106 Report

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>>45348021
>They've characterized the two sets of pokemon: "Cool" and "Cute". Everything cute has a giant round head and a teeny body with small features. Everything cool is overdesigned with stripes and spots and random patterns.
This is such disingenuous horse shit. Please tell me where where mons like Yamper, or Stonjourner, or Tsareena, or the Galar Fossils, or Barbaracle, or a litany of other Pokemon fit into this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 03:40:42 No.45348155 Report

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>>45348021
God those are ugly

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 03:41:51 No.45348165 Report

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>>45347998
those redesigns look like ass

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 03:47:27 No.45348209 Report

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>>45347998
the word you're looking for is simplified

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 04:07:15 No.45348318 Report

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>>45348106
>THERE ARE OUTLIERS IN OVER 700 POKEMON THAT MEANS YOU'RE WRONG REEEEEEEE

It's generalization not an absolute you fucking obtuse faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 04:08:23 No.45348324 Report

Quoted By: >>45348449

Take Exeggcute from Gen 1 and Kommo-o from Gen 7. You can cherrypick from any gens and make the same point, all gens have some simpler/cuter designs with more cool and rugged designs sprinkled in. I could make this same point with Drednaw, Dragapult, and Centiskorch while replacing the gen 1 mons as well. It means nothing.

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Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 04:10:39 No.45348335 Report

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>>45348318
>It's generalization
then it's meaningless drivel, simple as

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 04:11:59 No.45348341 Report

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>>45348335
>generalizations are meaningless
Why are you so disingenuous? Generalizations are useful. Dogs have 4 legs. That's a generalization. It doesn't matter if some have 5 legs due to a genetic defect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 04:13:14 No.45348346 Report

Quoted By: >>45348802

Old pokemon was "DBZ-y". Now they are Calarts-y. Following cartoon trends.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 04:16:32 No.45348361 Report

Quoted By: >>45348373 >>45348954 >>45349123

>>45348341
>Dogs have 4 legs. That's a generalization
>comparing the design philosophies of a children's monster franchise to the nature of dogs having four legs
retarded comparisons aside, you saying "OHHHH THOSE ARE OUTLIERS THEY DON'T COUNT" makes your argument worse. You can't even substantiate your claims, yet you expect anyone to take it seriously? And how many can YOU pull from that same pool of 900 or so monsters that make it more than coincidence?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 04:20:04 No.45348373 Report

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>>45348361
Gosh, why are you such a retarded schizo manchild? All your arguments are so dishonest.

Even Game Freak staff has recognized that design philosophy has changed. There's no disputing that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 04:22:37 No.45348385 Report

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>>45347998
Serious zorua
2 Pidgeys

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Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 04:22:58 No.45348387 Report

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>>45348373
>Even Game Freak staff has recognized that design philosophy has changed.
>design philosphy changing=EVERYTHING IS CUTE OR COOL, AND EVERYTHING IN SAID CUTE OR COOL CATEGORIES HAS BIG HEADS WITH SMALL BODIES OR RANDOME STRIPED AND SPIKES RESPECTIVELY
And you call MY arguments dishonest? I never even denied that there was an artstyle shift you schizo, just that designs can't be boiled down to your reductionist nostalgia-blind bullshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 04:27:39 No.45348411 Report

Quoted By: >>45348423

>>45348387
Take your meds manchild. Pretending that something is more complex than it really is classical disingenuous horse shit.

Imagine thinking you can call bullshit on anyone while all you can do is uppercase strawmen. What a dishonest little bitch.

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Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 04:29:41 No.45348423 Report

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>>45348411
>doesn't even argue the point or defend his point and simply resorts to spouting insults
damn, this really IS the underage board! After all, you can't be out of middle school if you're resorting to such tactics already!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 04:30:40 No.45348428 Report

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>>45347998
Gen 1 was aping the 90s Toriyama style, with harsh lines and triangular eyes. Now they're aping the moe art style with big round eyes, huge heads, and no angles to speak of.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 04:33:19 No.45348448 Report

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>>45348021
You're not entirely right, but you do have a point.
Earlier gens trended towards animals with fantastical features.
Newer gens trend towards toys modeled after animals with fantastical features.
There are some toys in gen 1 and some fantasy animals in gen 8, but the ratio has shifted.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 04:33:20 No.45348449 Report

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>>45348324
This

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 04:35:24 No.45348460 Report

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OP this image doesn’t indicate stylistic differences. It shows that different pokemon have OP this image doesn’t show stylistic differences. It shows as might have been obvious that different pokemon have different features. Notice that rufflet has talons and jagged plumage like pidgey, silvally has vulpix-like feet, and golisopod has segmented feelers like krabby. The different features give reason for making a new pokemon of a familiar animal basis and are always adapted very carefully to the aims of the design. different features. Notice that rufflet has talons and jagged plumage like pidgey, silvally has vulpix-like feet, and golisopod has segmented feelers like krabby. The different features give reason for making a new pokemon of a familiar animal basis and are always adapted very carefully to the aims of the design.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 05:32:34 No.45348802 Report

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>>45348346
>>45347998
just say simplified or cartoony

you look pitiful when you use such a stupid buzzword

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 05:38:19 No.45348838 Report

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>>45347998
>Why is Pokémon's artwork getting more CalArts-y?
>>>>CalArts-y
This stupid shit right here is why nobody will take you faggots seriously.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 05:45:55 No.45348874 Report

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>>45347998
>those genwunized mons
Cringe

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 05:47:55 No.45348885 Report

Quoted By: >>45349076

Koreans
Unironically
They are forcing le simplified art meme and it's spreading around the world

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 06:06:00 No.45348954 Report

Quoted By: >>45349153

>>45348361
>THOSE OUTLIERS DON'T COUNT
Yes, they don't, that's what makes them an outlier you fucking retard. I'm certain you have no idea what that word even means.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 06:21:28 No.45349062 Report

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>>45347998
Why do all the redesigns look better

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 06:23:55 No.45349076 Report

Quoted By: >>45349458

>>45348885
This. Fuck Bare Bears and Steven Faggotverse

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 06:27:38 No.45349098 Report

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>>45348021
i like nusquirtle more but the other two are pretty ugly

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 06:34:10 No.45349123 Report

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>>45348361
Holy shit you are one dumb motherfucker

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 06:36:06 No.45349140 Report

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>>45347998
Funny how all the fanmade ones look worse than the official designs, regardless of which generation they are mimicking.

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Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 06:37:43 No.45349149 Report

Quoted By: >>45349450

Is this another thread where zoomers get butthurt about there being obvious stylistic differences between old and new generations and screech about it being cherrypicking even though the devs have literally admitted the designs are becoming cuter themselves?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 06:38:18 No.45349153 Report

Quoted By: >>45351673

>>45348954
>>45348318
When over 1/5 of all pokemon are "outliers", they aren't really outliers, now are they?

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Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 07:04:04 No.45349315 Report

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welp

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Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 07:21:52 No.45349405 Report

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>>45349315
>inb4 cherrypicking
>inb4 the bottom ones are better
>inb4 it's just the art style

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Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 07:24:08 No.45349414 Report

Quoted By: >>45349488 >>45349504 >>45349517 >>45349649 >>45349664

>gen 1 designs were go-

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 07:32:30 No.45349450 Report

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>>45349149
>t. 12yo superzoomer

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 07:35:09 No.45349458 Report

Quoted By: >>45349616

>>45349076
why care? WBB is like a situational comedy cartoon right? it doesn't matter

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 07:40:20 No.45349488 Report

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>>45349414
Freaking kek, they really was Ctrl C - Ctrl V

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Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 07:40:48 No.45349496 Report

Quoted By: >>45349512 >>45349518 >>45349526

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 07:43:10 No.45349504 Report

Quoted By: >>45349530

>>45349414
>making designs coherent is bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 07:45:02 No.45349512 Report

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>>45349496
>b-but muh strawmans!!
cringe, kys

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 07:45:54 No.45349517 Report

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>>45349414
This is good tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 07:45:56 No.45349518 Report

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>>45349496
Ambiguous mechanical bug monster with traits of ladybug vs my mom’s Disney character lol

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Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 07:48:10 No.45349526 Report

Quoted By: >>45349536 >>45350070

>>45349496
Left is an incoherent jumble of lines and shapes.

Right is a cute 'mon with satisfying proportions.

Gens are irrelevant. All that matters is imaginations and passion of design.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 07:49:18 No.45349530 Report

Quoted By: >>45349579 >>45349595

>>45349504
>coherent design = literally copypasting bodyparts on everyone

Retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 07:50:21 No.45349536 Report

Quoted By: >>45349710

>>45349526
Also nice goalpost moving

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 07:55:25 No.45349565 Report

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>>45348106
They're all shapeless blobs with random color schemes, yes?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 07:59:03 No.45349579 Report

Quoted By: >>45349605

>>45349530
In the eyes alone there are like 10 different styles.
Retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 08:01:43 No.45349595 Report

Quoted By: >>45349613

>>45349530
Reusing similar parts is how you can make the designs cohesive and feel internally consistent while still being varied, yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 08:03:29 No.45349605 Report

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>>45349579
>Being that delusional

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 08:05:04 No.45349613 Report

Quoted By: >>45349617

>>45349595
Having one art style for all characters =/= blantantly copypasting their body parts on each other so

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 08:05:43 No.45349616 Report

Quoted By: >>45350078

>>45349458
I don't watch WBB or Steven Universe and I shouldn't care about them, but they impact art trends overall so I kinda have to care.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 08:05:45 No.45349617 Report

Quoted By: >>45349627

>>45349613
Reusing body parts is how you can maintain an art style.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 08:07:27 No.45349627 Report

Quoted By: >>45349630

>>45349617
Nah, it is but it is laziest method

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 08:08:01 No.45349630 Report

Quoted By: >>45349654

>>45349627
It's not lazy. It's smart.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 08:11:15 No.45349649 Report

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>>45349414
Those things happen in real life, though.
Closely related animals or instances of convergent evolution, where creatures develop similar features because those features just work.
It's like wondering why so many animals have hooves, or horns, or fins, or wings, or eyes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 08:11:56 No.45349654 Report

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>>45349630
>method what simplify designing characters isn’t lazy
Nah

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 08:13:52 No.45349664 Report

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>>45349414
You forgot to include the hands (stumps with 3 claws) and feet (elephant feet with just one claw)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 08:19:43 No.45349683 Report

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>>45347998
1st gen had Chancey and Clefairy, your argument is invalid

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 08:25:22 No.45349710 Report

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>>45349536
Wrong poster.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 09:42:33 No.45350070 Report

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>>45349526
no it isn't
it's body is like scizor's

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 09:44:31 No.45350078 Report

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>>45349616
wbb has had no effect on anything, it's been cancelled for a while and forgotten even longer

also Adventure Time had a bigger impact then both of them

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Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 10:13:53 No.45350185 Report

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New gen pokés are more fuckable, thats all that matters to me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 12:37:51 No.45350912 Report

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>>45347998
Because degenerates are getting pandered.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 14:18:32 No.45351461 Report

Quoted By: >>45351477 >>45351691

DUUUUHHHH CALARTS MEANS "ART STYLE I DON'T LIKE" PFFFTFTFTTT

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 14:22:25 No.45351477 Report

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>>45351461
yes

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 14:25:54 No.45351506 Report

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>>45348021
I really like that Ivysaur, tbqh
Rest are trash

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 14:50:26 No.45351673 Report

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>>45349153
Where are you pulling this number from, exactly? Do you have a diagram where you placed every Pokemon inside the bubble and 1/5th disproved it? Or is it a number out of your ass?

Hell, I can make up numbers, too. More than half the Pokemon follow this convention. Damn, I'm so smart.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2020 14:53:25 No.45351691 Report

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>>45351461
>t. CalArt graduate

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