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Anonymous Sat 14 Nov 2020 22:53:17 No.45430245 View View Reply Original Report

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Not really a Pokemon fan (barely played any of the games), but I'm making a Pokeclone. What features would people want in a retro style Pokemon game? Maybe there's no point.

What I'm doing so far

>Gyms completable in any order (with maybe more than 8?)
>Gyms scale depending on # of badges
>Trainer leveling in addition to Pokemon. Like, leveling up your Fire/Water skill, unlocking perks or something
>A more dynamic story, with events changing depending on if you do certain things before certain badges
>But overall the game shuts the fuck up and let's you play

I know there are some romhacks that do this stuff so I dunno if anyone even would care. Also, the odds of the game ever finishing are slim.

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Anonymous Sat 14 Nov 2020 22:54:52 No.45430255 Report

Quoted By: >>45430272 >>45430296

>>45430245
original monster designs

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Anonymous Sat 14 Nov 2020 22:57:04 No.45430272 Report

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>>45430255

Oh yeah, I stole Pokemon art assets because I'm a coder, but I was going to do my own thing. I had a friend helping with art but he bounced - you know how it goes.

I told him I wanted an unlucky black cat monster, and he gave me this.

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Anonymous Sat 14 Nov 2020 22:58:04 No.45430279 Report

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>>45430245
Original designs and sprites. Don't use pokemon assets. That way, if you get big, you won't get fucked by Nintendo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Nov 2020 22:58:19 No.45430282 Report

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>>45430272
that's a cool cat, good luck with your game

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Nov 2020 22:58:24 No.45430284 Report

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>>45430245
youre not a fan of the game nor ever played the games but want to make a clone? Why not just make a game based off a genre you actually enjoy?

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Anonymous Sat 14 Nov 2020 22:59:43 No.45430296 Report

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>>45430255

I actually don't know all 1000~ Pokemon like most people here do. IMO, some ideas are good enough to do again. I'm sure there is a cactus Pokemon, but that's not going to stop me from doing a cactus if I want. I dunno how the community feels about that sort of thing, but it'd be ridiculous to have no birds just because Pokemon has done birds (multiple times even), right?

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Anonymous Sat 14 Nov 2020 23:01:46 No.45430318 Report

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>>45430296
Don't let yourself be confined by existing designs. There's three cactus pokemon (2 of them in the same evolutionary line) and too many birds to count, just make sure to be creative.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Nov 2020 23:02:11 No.45430323 Report

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>>45430245
>Trainer leveling in addition to Pokemon. Like, leveling up your Fire/Water skill, unlocking perks or something

I have an idea of a concept kinda similar to that, called Trainer Classes

You know how Pokemon NPC's have certain classes (Youngster, Bug Catcher, Hiker, ect)? My idea is the playable character can have pretty much any NPC trainer class, and it gives bonuses to your Pokemon, especially when your team is built in a certain way

Examples:
Hiker: If your team consists entirely of Rock, Steel, Ground and Fighting-Type Pokemon, your Pokemon gain 1.2x in Attack and Defense
Bug Catcher: If your team consists entirely of Bug and Flying-Type Pokemon, your Pokemon gain 1.2x in Speed and Accuracy
Ace Trainer: If your team consists of Pokemon w/o types that overlap, they all gain 1.1x in Attack and Special Attack
Aroma Lady: If your team consists entirely of Grass and Fairy-Type Pokemon, they gain 1.4x in Special Attack and Special Defense, at the cost of taking 1.5x from Poison-Type attacks
Collector: If your team consists entirely of rare Pokemon, or Pokemon of the same evolution line, they gain 1.1x in Defense and Special Defense

I'll have to develop this idea a little more, but hopefully you know the kind of thing I'm talking about. This would apply both to the NPC trainers, and the playable character (+ online battles). This is supposed to encourage players to build their teams in a certain way, like how ingame NPC's kinda do
idk how hard it would be to code, but it's just an idea I've had for a while and always wanted something like this to be implemented into the games. Many other RPG's have classes, so why not Pokemon?

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Anonymous Sat 14 Nov 2020 23:04:23 No.45430340 Report

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>>45430284

I think Pokemon is actually a really cool idea for a game. The idea of exploring a world and finding neat monsters that you get to flip into your allies? That's dope. Building a team to amplify their strengths and shore up their weaknesses? Exciting!

I didn't really own the handhelds to play the recent Pokemon games, and there was always so much pessimism behind them. I watched the intro to Sun and Moon and thought it was really boring - it took like 30min to finally walk around, and when you did, you had the option to catch like a woodpecker and a worm.

I want to make a game where the moment you start, you have a world to explore and tons of Pokemon to find. You wouldn't be forced to sit through strange anime cutscenes with an overly dramatic story (maybe you all like that stuff, I'm not judging, it's just not for me).

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Anonymous Sat 14 Nov 2020 23:06:40 No.45430355 Report

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>>45430340
Grubbin is based. Based!

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Anonymous Sat 14 Nov 2020 23:09:26 No.45430371 Report

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>>45430323

This is actually the kind of thing I was thinking of. Specifically, it's always seemed funny to me how the gym leaders are these type specialists, but being a "type specialist" would be a terrible idea in the world of Pokemon.

Similar to AutoChess style games, I think it would be cool if you could have a bonus if you came in with a full team of different Pokemon all sharing a type. These would be special/unique bonuses like, say, an all ground team would cause flying to lose their immunity. An all electric team would maybe be guaranteed to go first?

I tend to not like flat stat modifiers because I personally find them boring. And I'm not looking to make a balanced game, I want a game that is fun to explore and run around in single player. It'd support online battling and trading, but I have no interest in a competitively balanced game like that. I'd rather do wacky things that make people excited, even if they're overpowering.

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Anonymous Sat 14 Nov 2020 23:11:19 No.45430383 Report

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>>45430340
That's really the problem with the pokemon fanbase, half of the fandom wants a game with a deep and good story, while the other half wants no story and just wants to play the game. It's pretty hard to do both. For me personally, I care more about gameplay but pokemon stories aren't too intrusive for me at least so it's fine.

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Anonymous Sat 14 Nov 2020 23:15:07 No.45430408 Report

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>>45430245
following pokemon

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Anonymous Sat 14 Nov 2020 23:15:20 No.45430410 Report

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>>45430245
good adventure with little handholding. many secret places, no "le funny xD/"edgy jokes. if you can't write a good story it's better not to have one at all

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Anonymous Sat 14 Nov 2020 23:16:29 No.45430421 Report

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>>45430383

As far as story goes, it'd play out more like the OG Red/Silver. You would have a goal of becoming a champion, and you'd have a rival (or rivals?) that would show up throughout the adventure, but there wouldn't be world-ending stakes or some sort of power of friendship unity thing.

I would want an enemy team, but it'd be more of a background thing. I like the idea of time progressing between badges. So, between badges 4-6, maybe you have an opportunity to stop the "Team Rocket" attack on the "Power Plant". But if you don't, you don't! But maybe if you fought your rival 4 times (he would have his/her own path throughout the world, moving after badge completions), he'd be tough enough to handle the attack on his own.

But it'd mostly be a light thing. Maybe 1 super challenging path through the game for completion with a true ending, but for the most part it would be less about the story and more about the world.

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Anonymous Sat 14 Nov 2020 23:19:10 No.45430447 Report

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>>45430410

Yeah this is something I 100% agree with. I don't like memes, and one of the things I like about Pokemon is how approachable it is. It appeals to so many people because it isn't looking to offend anyone and it is something anyone can play.

I like that someone who is, say, physically disabled, or not a traditional "gamer", can still enjoy Pokemon. You can read it at your own pace, fight at your own pace, etc.

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Anonymous Sat 14 Nov 2020 23:22:54 No.45430481 Report

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>>45430371
>It'd support online battling and trading, but I have no interest in a competitively balanced game like that
Cringe
Though, this isn't really unlike Game Freak desu
Can you at least buff older/shitty Pokemon into being actually viable and not powercrept? ideally doing this without Megas or any other bullshit battle mechanic added since Gen 6

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Anonymous Sat 14 Nov 2020 23:25:01 No.45430495 Report

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>>45430340
>I watched the intro to Sun and Moon and thought it was really boring - it took like 30min to finally walk around, and when you did, you had the option to catch like a woodpecker and a worm
The intro/beginning island of Sun and Moon is a fucking slog to get through. Though, once you get past the first island, the game starts to pick up a lot more. The game is decently challenging and a nice change of pace from the nornally gym-based structure of the maingames
It's a shit game to replay, though, since the game has so many unskippable cutscenes

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Anonymous Sat 14 Nov 2020 23:29:56 No.45430537 Report

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>>45430481

The Pokemon art assets are temporary, I'm not making a "Pokemon" game, just a clone. I can't buff the old mons because they won't be in the game.

I think there are already Pokeclones striving for competitive balance, like TemTem? And people can play Smogon? It's just not something I care to do.

>>45430495

I actually want replayability to be a big thing in my game. Ideally, after a playthrough, people would think "I did the water gym first - I wonder what would be different if I did it last?" or "I wonder if I could build my team around a Bzzap!". I'd like to do a New Game+ where people can keep (at least) their trainer levels. Trainer levels (might?) speed up how fast you train Pokemon, so you can blitz through the "boring" stuff on a replay, etc. etc.

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Anonymous Sat 14 Nov 2020 23:32:24 No.45430566 Report

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>>45430408

I did get some field animations for my black cat monster, but art is going to come way later :(

I think I had a walking one too but I dunno where it is anymore.

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Anonymous Sat 14 Nov 2020 23:34:06 No.45430588 Report

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>>45430566

And yeah, the res is super low because we didn't know how detailed we were going to do things! At the end of the day, art is really difficult, and more detailed sprites means more work.

All of this stuff is just conceptual.

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