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Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 03:57:08 No.45432903 View View Reply Original Report

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Smogonfags summed up in one image.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 04:03:22 No.45432949 Report

Quoted By: >>45433000 >>45435017

>>45432903
Smogon rules existed before official VGC rules, though. If anything VGCfags are the girl in the comic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 04:04:21 No.45432954 Report

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What? That would be more accurate to VGC. Singles has been the main format in the games forever which is a tragedy desu, Singles are so outdated and Smogon existed before VGC.

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Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 04:05:49 No.45432966 Report

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They just play it differently. Imagine no official singles format lol.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 04:09:51 No.45433000 Report

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>>45432949
Tournaments and Stadium games set rule standards before that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 04:10:30 No.45433005 Report

Quoted By: >>45433014 >>45433051

>vgc started in 2009
>omgon was established in 2004
>>>>>>>>>>>

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 04:11:57 No.45433014 Report

Quoted By: >>45433345 >>45435624

>>45433005
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>pokemon battling established in 1995

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 04:14:56 No.45433042 Report

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>>45432903
They are always changing the damn game, how boring

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 04:15:51 No.45433049 Report

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>>45433000
yeah and smogon's rules are based on those of the original nintendo cup lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 04:15:53 No.45433051 Report

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>>45433005
>It only counts with VGC. Nevermind the Stadium games or the actual games themselves despite Smogon literally lifting rules from the Stadium games.
Okay.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 04:17:06 No.45433062 Report

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>>45433000
and where did smogon's rules contradict them

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Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 04:19:00 No.45433076 Report

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Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 04:19:13 No.45433079 Report

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>>45433062
Nothing was said about contradiction.
Anon started a dick waving contest about Smogon existing before VGC like that's something to brag about even though they were just copy/pasting and then adding to already established stuff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 04:19:33 No.45433086 Report

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>>45433049
Official metas have never been 6v6; what other similarities could there even be?

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Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 04:24:05 No.45433141 Report

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>>45432903

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 04:24:12 No.45433142 Report

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>>45433079
Yeah but in the context of the thread, it makes no sense for smogonfags to represent the blue-haired girl if smogon's rules were consistent with those of the (at the time) official ones. It doesn't matter which came first, because nothing significant was being changed.
VGC, having a significantly different playstyle/format, does however apply and is thus reasonable to comment on having come later.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 04:28:24 No.45433192 Report

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>>45433141
relentlessly based

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 04:38:11 No.45433262 Report

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>>45432903
Smogon rule set for singles makes the game more complicated and deep because every Pokemon shine within a specific Tier if certain Pokemon were banned people would just use whatever the or so 10 most broken Pokemon are.
Also a lot of abilities and moves just aren't competitive in nature such as evasion and Arena trap.
Gen 8 is fucked but it will get better eventually. Heck even game freak started betting stuff based on usage just like a certain website.

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Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 04:38:12 No.45433263 Report

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>>45433141
There's nothing stopping you from bringing shitmons on the ladder. Honestly, it's more fun that way.

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Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 04:42:06 No.45433286 Report

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figs it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 04:45:25 No.45433304 Report

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>>45433286
What does this even mean

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 04:47:46 No.45433323 Report

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>>45433304
its a subversion
the artists is portraying the excluded person as unhinged and screamy, whereas gatekeeping autistics are often the ones to throw tantrums

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 04:49:27 No.45433330 Report

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>>45433323
I disagree only on the merit I've seen plenty of the original comic happen too. Autists happen on both ends.

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Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 04:49:49 No.45433332 Report

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>>45433323
>gatekeeping
How about you fuck off and slit your throat

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 04:51:22 No.45433345 Report

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>>45433014
And what format did people use when they played back then? Singles or doubles?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 04:51:23 No.45433346 Report

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>>45432903
OP is based as fuck, look at all the smogonites seething ITT

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 04:51:50 No.45433351 Report

Quoted By: >>45433375

>>45433323
>Not wanting to change a game that you enjoy as is for the sake of one player that could just as easily go play something else is gatekeeping
Now THAT is a fucking horrid take

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Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 04:52:24 No.45433355 Report

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>>45433051
>stadium was double battles only
?????????

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Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 04:53:17 No.45433369 Report

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Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 04:54:35 No.45433375 Report

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>>45433351
if you think its just one person you are taking the comic too literally, a classic sign of the 'tism

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 04:55:35 No.45433383 Report

Quoted By: >>45433513 >>45433587

>>45432903
This comic using tabletop games as the subject always amused me because a large part of tabletop history is disgruntled rejected autists banding together to make their own game. How many D&D clones created by former D&D people do we have?

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Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 04:56:26 No.45433389 Report

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>>45432903
>cange

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 04:57:21 No.45433398 Report

Quoted By: >>45433498

>>45432903
>can we cange it
>"cange"
zoomers summed up in one image

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 05:08:21 No.45433480 Report

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>>45433346
>no arguments whatsoever, just mindless shitposting
Sounds about right. Enjoy your dopamine

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 05:09:51 No.45433498 Report

Quoted By: >>45433618 >>45433679

>>45433398
>heh i see you made a typo

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 05:10:04 No.45433503 Report

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>>45433375
If you think anon literally meant "one person" you may have the tism. Taking things way too literally is a classic sign
Irregardless, thinking fans who have been playing a game a certain way for decades have no right to resist new players' demands to be pandered to is asinine

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 05:11:18 No.45433512 Report

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>>45433480
The argument is in OP, ive seen no smogonite rebuttal. Just mindless seething

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 05:11:22 No.45433513 Report

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>>45433383
Actually successful ones? Like 2.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 05:19:58 No.45433587 Report

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>>45433383
Why would you clone a shit product?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 05:21:28 No.45433597 Report

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>>45433587
Because it's popular and thus all people know. It explains all the horrible 5e hacks at least.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 05:23:00 No.45433618 Report

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>>45433498
>"typos aren't important nowadays! only feelings are!"
ok so yboy, don't you have a feminist protest to go to?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 05:27:05 No.45433648 Report

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>>45433597
I know that, but I assume a group of independents would actually care about their product. Instead of making a D&D clone like every corporation that has tried to go into TTRPGs, recently.

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Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 05:28:53 No.45433667 Report

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No it's more like this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 05:30:33 No.45433679 Report

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>>45433498
In text alone is one thing, but in a published comic?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 05:46:00 No.45433783 Report

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Gen 2 started the Battle Tower

Checkmate Smogon fags

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 05:47:05 No.45433789 Report

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At the end of the day, Smogon is just a suggestion.
Nobody is stopping you from bringing whatever you want into the higher tiers

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Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 06:16:14 No.45433973 Report

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>>45432903

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 06:23:37 No.45434004 Report

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>>45433141
The beauty of those pre established mons and sets is you are totally free to break from the standard.... IF YOU CAN LOL.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 06:25:27 No.45434011 Report

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>>45433973
This is it, Luigi.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 06:27:23 No.45434024 Report

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>>45433049
>smogon's rules are based on those of the original nintendo cup lol
Yeah besides banning what they think should be banned.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 06:33:16 No.45434054 Report

Quoted By: >>45434069 >>45436526

>>45432903
To be fair "We've been playing it this way for years" is not an argument. Conservatism is a joke.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 06:35:21 No.45434069 Report

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>>45434054
YASS QUEEN
SLAYYY

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 06:36:36 No.45434078 Report

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>>45433332
Point proven

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 06:38:41 No.45434093 Report

Quoted By: >>45434107

>>45434078
Being told that the game won’t change for you isn’t gate keeping you stupid fuck, no ones telling you not to play the game they’re saying that if you wanna play the game then play it as it is, if you don’t like the game then don’t play the game, no need to ruin it for those who do like it

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Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 06:41:31 No.45434107 Report

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>>45434093
>smogon is the game
Wew

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 06:42:10 No.45434108 Report

Quoted By: >>45434117

>>45434107
Take your meds

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 06:43:20 No.45434117 Report

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>>45434108
This isn't /x/

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 06:46:51 No.45434137 Report

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>>45433286
>>45433323
LOL
O
L

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 07:02:30 No.45434221 Report

Quoted By: >>45434235 >>45434247

>>45434069
>"Bro, 1+1 does not equal 5."
>"NOOO!!! WE'VE BEEN SAYING IT'S 5 FOR !% YEARS NOW!!"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 07:05:03 No.45434235 Report

Quoted By: >>45434247 >>45434931

>>45434221
1+1=5 is a disingenuous argument, as it implies that Smogon rules are somehow untrue or nonsensical. They're clearly not, just adding more onto what's already presented in the game itself, so comparing it such a way it an asinine way to get attention.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 07:07:35 No.45434247 Report

Quoted By: >>45434645

>>45434235
>it implies that Smogon rules are somehow untrue or nonsensical
Smogon rules are untrue and nonsensical, but >>45434221 is still retarded for operating under that pretense rather than actually explaining why.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 08:27:45 No.45434645 Report

Quoted By: >>45435113

>>45434247
>Smogons rules are false
Are you retarded? Rules can not be false.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 09:00:09 No.45434754 Report

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>>45432903
Nah, that image sums up retards like you complaining about smogon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 09:06:10 No.45434771 Report

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all of this hate for smogon tiers and bans....

does this mean I won't get laughed at for battling with my favorite pikaclone

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 09:50:15 No.45434918 Report

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>>45433141
This is just blatantly retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 09:53:26 No.45434931 Report

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>>45434235
>1+1=5 is a disingenuous argument, as it implies that Smogon rules are somehow untrue or nonsensical.
No it implies that Smogon rules are retarded which they are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 10:14:34 No.45435012 Report

Quoted By: >>45435031

Whats wrong with smogon anyways?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 10:16:02 No.45435017 Report

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>>45432949
And official non-VGC tournaments existed before smogon. Two can play that game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 10:17:46 No.45435026 Report

Quoted By: >>45435120

>>45433141
that’s how metagames work in literally every game ever made, blame game freak’s balancing retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 10:19:07 No.45435031 Report

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>>45435012
Nothing, singles are just boring

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 10:19:13 No.45435033 Report

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>>45433141
>Le edgy racism XD
cringe

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 10:21:01 No.45435042 Report

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>>45432903
am i the only one who has noticed how fucking bad /vp/ is when it comes to competitive?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 10:39:33 No.45435108 Report

Quoted By: >>45435120

>>45433141
No one actually thinks this is what smogon does, right?
>game has options that are tiered not by objective qualities, but percentage of use
>surprised that people stick to what has been proven to work
It is not smogon's fault that certain mons and sets are better than others. If anything, smogon is keeping certain mons and sets from completely dominating the meta, and even then they can't do that entirely.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 10:41:25 No.45435113 Report

Quoted By: >>45435116 >>45435126 >>45438636

>>45434645
They are, though.
In the actual game, nothing is stopping you from using mons that the neckbeard fanfic small penis council banned. Nothing is stopping you from dynamaxing or abusing evasion and sleep. Sleep clause is the most blatant case because even if both players agree to follow the asinine rules, it's possible to break them accidentally because cart doesn't accommodate its retardation.

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Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 10:43:44 No.45435116 Report

Quoted By: >>45435125

>>45435113
>nothing is stopping you from using mons that the neckbeard fanfic small penis council banned

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 10:44:09 No.45435117 Report

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>NOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T PUT ME THE HECK TO SLEEP NOOOOOOOOOOO IT'S UNFAIR!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 10:45:19 No.45435120 Report

Quoted By: >>45437865

>>45435026
>>45435108
The actual game is perfectly balanced in 3v3 singles and 4v4 doubles.
If you play 6v6 singles, which GF doesn't balance around because they never imagined anyone would play it, of course it's unbalanced.
And it gets even worse because the """""council""""" bans every offensive threat that beats stall and ends up ruining the balance even more because those offensive threats were meant to keep other things in check.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 10:47:25 No.45435125 Report

Quoted By: >>45435132 >>45435134

>>45435116
The game's code keeps you from using those.
And the reason GF banned mythicals is because they're only available in limited events and it's not fair for some players to have them and others to not.
The smogonshit council's bans are completely arbitrary.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 10:47:29 No.45435126 Report

Quoted By: >>45435134

>>45435113
>In the actual game, nothing is stopping you from using mons that the neckbeard fanfic small penis council banned
Are you pretending the dexcut never happened?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 10:48:32 No.45435132 Report

Quoted By: >>45435142 >>45435143

>>45435125
>The game's code keeps you from using those
And who's responsible for that code? The minidick council at gamefreak.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 10:48:38 No.45435134 Report

Quoted By: >>45435142

>>45435126
See >>45435125
You can't use those because the game literally won't let you. The rules are real and can't be broken.

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Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 10:49:40 No.45435142 Report

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>>45435134
See
>>45435132

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Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 10:49:57 No.45435143 Report

Quoted By: >>45435180

>>45435132
Shut the fuck up you stupid smogcuck. They did it for a fucking reason that I just explained and it's way more fair than your shitty council making stupif ducking bans to protect thir precious stallerino.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 10:58:57 No.45435180 Report

Quoted By: >>45435446

>>45435143
Everybody injects anyway. Mythicals being banned is just a useless formality.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 11:57:59 No.45435406 Report

Quoted By: >>45438682

>>45433648
Wait are you actually saying every major ttrpg is a dnd clone?

Jesus christ you're actually retarded if you think that anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 12:06:16 No.45435446 Report

Quoted By: >>45435480 >>45435628

>>45435180
Not that guy but youre crazy if you believe GameFreak will ever balance their games with an assumption that everyone injects their mons

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 12:17:33 No.45435480 Report

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>>45435446
*you're crazy if you believe GameFreak will ever balance their games
Ftfy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 12:53:53 No.45435624 Report

Quoted By: >>45435999

>>45433014
Pokemon hadn't even released in 1995, zoomer faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 12:55:20 No.45435628 Report

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>>45435446
And what sort of balance thinking went into straight up removing dozens of pokemon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 12:56:39 No.45435638 Report

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>>45433679
It's a random webcomic, don't think anyone cares about its quality

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 14:13:21 No.45435999 Report

Quoted By: >>45436079

>>45435624
Japanese release date...
Who's the zoomer now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 14:30:31 No.45436079 Report

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>>45435999
The games were completed in October of 1995. They weren't released until February of 96. Work on your googling zoomer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 15:51:00 No.45436526 Report

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>>45434054
*tips fedora*

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Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 18:44:31 No.45437865 Report

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>>45435120
>3v3 is balanced

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 19:12:41 No.45438139 Report

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>>45432903
OP's comic is spot on if the group is meant to be smogon and the blue hair is /vp/.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 19:18:56 No.45438203 Report

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>>45433141
fukin lol'd

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 20:08:52 No.45438636 Report

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>>45435113
There is nothing stopping you from moving more than your dice roll in monopoly. There is nothing stopping you from murdering you neighbor. Rules do not expose that you are physically unable to do something, you retarded cunt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 20:13:43 No.45438682 Report

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>>45435406
Every major TTRPG has not been made by a major corporation within the last 10 years. FFG Starwars, Delta Green, Call of Cuthulu all have editions older than 10 years ago.

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