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Anonymous Mon 16 Nov 2020 15:06:51 No.45446042 View View Reply Original Report

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RU kidding me?
Gengar, Metagross, Ninetales-A, Conkeldurr in RU?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Nov 2020 15:07:47 No.45446046 Report

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>>45446042
Terrakion will probably get quick banned.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Nov 2020 15:07:59 No.45446047 Report

Quoted By: >>45446870

>>45446042
Ninetales-A is pretty trash though

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Nov 2020 15:10:11 No.45446064 Report

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>>45446042
What did you think would happen if you release a bunch of legendaries into the meta?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 16 Nov 2020 15:12:50 No.45446084 Report

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Alakazam Survived in the UU tier!

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 16 Nov 2020 15:13:00 No.45446086 Report

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>>45446042
Legendaries should not be allowed in the same set of tiers as all other pokemon. Change my mind. You can't

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Nov 2020 15:14:38 No.45446100 Report

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>>45446086
Ehhh depends on the legendary. Moltres isnt really that great.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Nov 2020 15:15:50 No.45446108 Report

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>>45446086
I think lesser non-box legendaries are alright. And even then, a few select legendaries like standard Groudon are a joke.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Nov 2020 15:16:36 No.45446115 Report

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>>45446042
>Gengar gets Nasty Plot and no longer has to deal with Pursuit
>Drops to RU

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Nov 2020 15:46:44 No.45446278 Report

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>>45446042
Metagross was RU last gen

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Nov 2020 15:50:06 No.45446291 Report

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>>45446086
Why? Most legendaries aren't even that good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Nov 2020 16:02:16 No.45446347 Report

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>>45446042
this is the darkest timeline

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Nov 2020 16:04:23 No.45446357 Report

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>>45446086
There are 12 Pokemon that dropped from UU to RU

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Nov 2020 16:15:06 No.45446428 Report

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>>45446042
Weather setting abilities are banned in tiers below OU iirc so Ninetales is dogshit since it can't set up veil

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Nov 2020 16:21:12 No.45446464 Report

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>>45446086
Man even in ZU Calyrex is trash

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Nov 2020 16:23:09 No.45446475 Report

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>>45446428
The lower tiers have reverted to an Alpha stage so weather and all BL mons are allowed.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 16 Nov 2020 16:31:58 No.45446523 Report

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Fan fic meta I use gengar in masters on ranked cart it still has sweeper stats and heavily benefits from max poison and max mind can easily sweep a team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Nov 2020 16:50:13 No.45446632 Report

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>>45446042
Metagross was RU last generation too

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Nov 2020 17:22:24 No.45446870 Report

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>>45446047
No is not, Aurora Veil is broken and is one of the problem mons discussed right now, it was UUBL not long ago.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Nov 2020 17:23:11 No.45446877 Report

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>>45446086
A Regice by any other name would be as shit, anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Nov 2020 17:24:10 No.45446885 Report

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>>45446115
The horse and the clown are better, it may come back to UU now than the clown is banned.
>>45446428
Hail has never been banned, only sun and rain have ever been and they are free now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Nov 2020 17:25:51 No.45446896 Report

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>>45446042
Power creep is a hell of a drug

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Nov 2020 17:38:30 No.45446966 Report

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>>45446042
fanfic clown meta. Metagross still kicks ass in BSS and will always be my bro

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Nov 2020 18:02:57 No.45447160 Report

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>>45446966
>if I can beat 12yo in random matches it means it still kick ass!11

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Nov 2020 18:11:24 No.45447245 Report

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>>45446042
>oooh nooo more people can use my favorite pokemon
Grow the fuck up

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Nov 2020 18:11:42 No.45447249 Report

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Pokemon is pretty trash with competitive these days ngl

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Nov 2020 18:12:53 No.45447258 Report

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>>45446523
So?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 16 Nov 2020 18:13:57 No.45447263 Report

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Why are people acting like pokemon dropping a tier is a bad thing? It's a good thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Nov 2020 18:17:59 No.45447300 Report

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>>45446042
>Bro gengar is still good losing levitate doesn't change anything!

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 16 Nov 2020 18:18:52 No.45447303 Report

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>>45447300
>low usage = bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Nov 2020 18:19:53 No.45447311 Report

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tiers are based on usage, this just means gengar isn't being used much

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Nov 2020 18:23:58 No.45447341 Report

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>>45446042
Gen 8 singles are u kidding me?

You have gen 3, 4 and even 5 to pick from and you choose to play gen 8?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Nov 2020 18:24:31 No.45447346 Report

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>>45447341
>Playing a ladder with 3 people

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Nov 2020 18:29:32 No.45447388 Report

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>>45447263
Anything lower than AG is shit tier

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Nov 2020 18:31:03 No.45447403 Report

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>>45447303
If they were so good in the first place, how come they get low usage. Admit it, power creep is too strong

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Nov 2020 18:33:12 No.45447418 Report

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>>45447403
Because the metagame is everchanging and people find different ways to adapt.
What does power creep has to do with Grimmsnarl being in RU for example?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Nov 2020 18:37:24 No.45447444 Report

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>>45447418
Grimmsnarl played itself for being a simple duel screener. Should have been a wallbreaker or a bulky mon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Nov 2020 18:40:18 No.45447472 Report

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>>45447444
So it's not a matter of power creep, just of general utility. If screens played a more important role in the current meta more people would quiclkly pick up Grimmsnarl again, and it would be reviewed for a possible ban in RU.
Still, Grimmsnarl has a niche in OU. Being in a low tier doesn't mean being useless in a higher tier, in fact many top threats of OU such as Amoongus are UU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Nov 2020 22:49:16 No.45449565 Report

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bump

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Nov 2020 22:56:34 No.45449633 Report

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>>45446086
base SWSH had no legendawies and it was the worst meta we've ever had

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Nov 2020 22:58:24 No.45449648 Report

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>>45447444
dumb retard doesn't remember when bulk up and rest talk were used

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 16 Nov 2020 23:44:53 No.45450055 Report

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>>45446042
The real problem here is that they raised the cutoff.
The current cutoff is 4.52% usage, while the original cutoff before gen 8 was 3.41%. All of the highlighted mons would still be in UU if not for the new cutoff.
And from the start of the month, Hippowdon, Lele, Glastrier, Buzzwole, Mew, Celesteela, Aegislash, and Hawlucha would've still been in OU.
The higher cutoff worked when the dex was smaller, but they need to change it back to the way it was in gen 7. The tiers are too small to hold all of the mons.

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