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>>45447854
Dynamax Abuser, Clear Body prevents stat drops, can carry Misty Seed and boost its SpD once the terrain starts (which also shields it from status) and is basically pretty damn bulky, can get to be very hard to take down with Curse boosts and the Sandstorm also boosting its SpD
You can also run the obvious WP on it

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Nov 2020 19:35:01 No.45447950 Report

Quoted By: >>45448029 >>45453266 >>45453746

>Amoonguss and Genies are still obnoxiously present as ever
Wow, fantastic... What even happened to Togekiss?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Nov 2020 19:36:25 No.45447963 Report

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>>45447803
>Regigigas
antiweezingbros... we got too cocky...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Nov 2020 19:37:20 No.45447974 Report

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>Ice Horse
>S
B-But slow ice type!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Nov 2020 19:37:39 No.45447978 Report

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>>45447803
I haven't played in 2 weeks and haven't even finished building my team on cart.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Nov 2020 19:40:30 No.45448016 Report

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I fucking hate Dyna+WP meme so fucking much.
Literally the most cancerous shit in all over a decade of VGC.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 16 Nov 2020 19:41:21 No.45448023 Report

Quoted By: >>45448030 >>45450015 >>45455180 >>45458402 >>45461242 >>45461356

mfw I encounter a team of metagross, tapu fini and a pick of random two other pokemon in the A rank for the 18th time today. This is so fucking boring, why don't people ever try to spice it up rather than using the same team everyone else is using?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Nov 2020 19:41:52 No.45448029 Report

Quoted By: >>45450084

>>45447950
Amoongus is fun, you should give it a try

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Nov 2020 19:41:54 No.45448030 Report

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>>45448023
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WHY DO PEOPLE PLAY TO WIN WHEN PLAYING COMPETITIVE???

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Nov 2020 19:42:19 No.45448035 Report

Quoted By: >>45448056

When the specify Gmax, do they mean those pokemon are only worth using if you intend to use their Gmax forms?
Are they not viable if have some other Dynamax user in mind. Are their regular dynamax forms not viable either?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Nov 2020 19:45:05 No.45448056 Report

Quoted By: >>45448081

>>45448035
GMLapras for example is good precisely because of its gmax move, which sets up Aurora Veil

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Nov 2020 19:47:04 No.45448081 Report

Quoted By: >>45448124

>>45448056
That one is obvious, but say, is dynamax Charizard not viable?
What about Coalossal? It's used mainly for Weakness Policy sets, right? Does it need Gmax specifically for it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Nov 2020 19:51:05 No.45448124 Report

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>>45448081
Not him, but I'd say they're unviable in the line of reasoning that there's no reason to use base Charizard or base Coalossal over their GMaxes. The residual from Vocalith and Wildfire are incredibly valuable over setting Sand and Sun, because not only are there meta viable Pokemon that'd do it better and more consistently (Tork, TTar), but there are even other Dmax abusers that could do it if need be.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Nov 2020 21:44:01 No.45449035 Report

Quoted By: >>45449077 >>45449093

>>45447803
what retard made this list?
regigigas and regirock in B? the same as torkoal, which should be A?
tyranitar in A?

do they even play vgc at all

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Nov 2020 21:48:59 No.45449077 Report

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>>45449035
Paul Ruiz

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Anonymous Mon 16 Nov 2020 21:50:51 No.45449093 Report

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>>45449035
>regigigas and regirock in B? https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/vgc-series-7-metagame-discussion-and-resources-thread-viability-rankings-post-2.3672129/page-2#post-8659257

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Anonymous Mon 16 Nov 2020 22:26:16 No.45449398 Report

Quoted By: >>45451459

>>45447803
>Guzzlord
>Rank C
Why?!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Nov 2020 23:37:39 No.45449988 Report

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>>45447854
Body Press, bro. It can actually do damage now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Nov 2020 23:40:59 No.45450015 Report

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>>45448023
Karenfag hands typed this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Nov 2020 23:48:59 No.45450084 Report

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>>45448029
Tangrowth is the gentleman's choice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 01:01:58 No.45450710 Report

Quoted By: >>45454571 >>45454760 >>45456914

>>45447803
Inteleon bros..what happened?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 02:19:30 No.45451459 Report

Quoted By: >>45451854 >>45453295 >>45453774

>>45449398
it's a shitmon, but one can infer that if you Dynamax Guzzlord then it will have an obscenely stupid amount of HP. Combine with Weakness Policy and its half-decent offenses, then you can sweep under Trick Room or Tailwind probably.

C-rank because it is a cute thing to do, but not optimal/needs a lot of support.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 03:07:59 No.45451854 Report

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>>45451459
Cybertron had some fun with it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 03:20:59 No.45451923 Report

Quoted By: >>45458842

>>45447854
Body Press off of 200 def is pretty funny.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 03:22:16 No.45451935 Report

Quoted By: >>45453062

>>45447803
Holy shit, Regigigas is in B

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 06:08:37 No.45453062 Report

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>>45451935
Imagine being less viable than Regigigas.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 06:10:56 No.45453075 Report

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where is GSARCHOMPS

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 06:39:33 No.45453266 Report

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>>45447950
>What even happened to Togekiss?
Look at who 2 out of the 3 S tiers are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 06:44:58 No.45453295 Report

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>>45451459
Clefairy or Female Indeedee with Follow me and Helping Hand?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 08:06:55 No.45453696 Report

Quoted By: >>45453908

We got too cocky galar zapdos bros...

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Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 08:11:36 No.45453715 Report

Quoted By: >>45453734 >>45453760

>>45447803
>GMax Coalossal and Spectrier in C
Smogon should stick to singles

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 08:12:22 No.45453718 Report

Quoted By: >>45458842

>>45447854
>Body Press off 200 BP
>Clear Body is great in VGC
>Respectable special bulk, great in sandstorm
>Great dynamax pokemon
>Can stand up to some dynamaxed pokemon at base
>Surprisingly versatile support movepool and coverage
>Weakness Policy abuser

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 08:14:39 No.45453734 Report

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>>45453715
Everyone's prepared for Coalossal these days. Plus the speed tiers have changed so its a bit harder to get Steam Engine rolling.
Spectier will get a bump up since people are now using it as utility, and a backup dynamaxer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 08:15:17 No.45453738 Report

Quoted By: >>45454487 >>45454495

>>45447803
>Regigigas B tier
>Tapu Lele/Koko low C tier
What

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 08:16:48 No.45453746 Report

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>>45447950
Amoonguss is not that good desu with all of the top 3 completely shitting on him, not sure why its ranked A at all. Redirection is kind if a non factor in this metagame. Stakataka deserves a drop too, its good but you really want a Steel thats not 4x Ground weak these days. Speaking of which, Mamo should rise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 08:19:11 No.45453760 Report

Quoted By: >>45453813

>>45453715
>clearly all these famous VGC players that made this list on smogon are wrong and I, a nobody on fucking /vp/, am right.
>also theze players that probably don't play singles much or even at all should stick to singles

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 08:21:19 No.45453774 Report

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>>45451459
It’s ranked C only because it cut an early Crown Tundra Victory Road tournament once. Doubt it will
stick around.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 08:28:23 No.45453813 Report

Quoted By: >>45453831

>>45453760
>famous VGC players
lmao you cant be serious, its a bunch of forum nobodies making lists with little to no quality control since smogon doesnt care much about VGC. I bet I could shit on most of them even on my bad day. Higher ranks are a mess too, Urshifu-S, the best lategame cleanup Pokemon in the game, in A? Are you fucking kidding me?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 08:32:05 No.45453831 Report

Quoted By: >>45453861

>>45453813
Words are empty, only action means anything, so go now, beat those dudes and prove to /vp/ that evil Smogon is shit.

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Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 08:35:29 No.45453846 Report

Quoted By: >>45458842

>>45447854
>4 Regis in the rankings
The Regi resurgence is upon us.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 08:36:47 No.45453848 Report

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>>45447803
>slow ice type in S rank
/vp/ btfo

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 08:40:44 No.45453861 Report

Quoted By: >>45456874

>>45453831
brb making a smogon account just to PM a bunch of nobodies for a showdown battle so I can validate myself to random /vp/ anons who will forget about this thread the next day

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 08:41:22 No.45453865 Report

Quoted By: >>45453888 >>45454427

>>45447803
>Glastrier S rank
Say it with me /vp/.
SLOW

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 08:47:44 No.45453888 Report

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>>45453865
POWERFUL

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 08:56:43 No.45453908 Report

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>>45453696
>make a Competitive Pokemon with a mediocre typing that is actually countered by one of the most popular Intimidators
>make a glass canon Defiant Pokemon that only fits on Hyper Offense which means it will never be used in actual tournaments
GameFreaks attempts to balance Intimidate have been both hilarious and sad in their sheer incompetence

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 11:25:51 No.45454427 Report

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>>45453865
Being slow is literally its only downside, and that downside is eliminated and even turned into a strength by Trick Room.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 11:29:31 No.45454450 Report

Quoted By: >>45454528

>>45453908
Do you have any better ideas for balancing Intimidate?
Making games is hard, y'know.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 11:37:38 No.45454487 Report

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>>45453738
>Terrains were nerfed so Regieleki hits as hard as Koko last generation
>Lele didn’t get Expanding Force and
Indeedee’s support capabilities are more valuable

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 11:39:00 No.45454495 Report

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>>45453738
>Terrains were nerfed so Regieleki hits as hard as Koko last generation
>Lele didn’t get Expanding Force and Indeedee’s support capabilities are more valuable

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 11:44:58 No.45454528 Report

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>>45454450
Only targets the Pokémon directly in front of you, like Imposter.
No need to thank me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 11:45:03 No.45454529 Report

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i'm just glad metagross is back. i transferred my shiny 5iv metagross in a heavy ball to sword this week and it feels so good to be reunited with my bro :)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 11:54:24 No.45454571 Report

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>>45450710
I saw more Inteleons than I did Cinderace for the last month. I don’t know what Smogon’s smoking putting the rabbit in B, it’s deader than the Tapus (besides Fini who counters it).

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 12:22:26 No.45454667 Report

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>>45453908
The S and A ranks do have a few mons that punish Intimidate (Metagross, Tornadus, Thundurus, Dragapult if used with Clear Body).

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 12:25:03 No.45454676 Report

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>>45447833
Venusaur is also B, you blind idiot

the real funny thing is how the rabbit fursona is losing to Rillabom everytime kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 12:31:44 No.45454700 Report

Quoted By: >>45458842

>>45447803
>Regigigas and Regirock both in B

BASED

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 12:33:15 No.45454705 Report

Quoted By: >>45454851 >>45455281 >>45456379 >>45456783

>>45447803
>Guzzlord ranking

WAIT HOW?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 12:49:09 No.45454760 Report

Quoted By:

>>45450710
Kek, poor Inceleon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 12:54:36 No.45454792 Report

Quoted By: >>45454825

>>45447803
Fini is supposed to be good but I can't really use it effectively. It's way too passive and does nothing without setting up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 13:07:01 No.45454825 Report

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>>45454792
You need a good EV spread and a clear idea on what is Fini supposed to achive in your team to make her effective. She combos well with other Pokemon that are also commonly used (Kartana, Incineroar, Glastrier, Metagross etc).

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 13:13:36 No.45454851 Report

Quoted By: >>45456783

>>45454705
Weakness Policy abuser. If you Dynamax it, it has like 600+ HP or some shit

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Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 13:13:51 No.45454853 Report

Quoted By: >>45454982 >>45455336 >>45455406 >>45459753

Rabbit bros....
we were supposed to be the new Greninja!
Daddy Masuda said we are the best of this generation....
how could this happen??
are we, fire autists, gonna always be inferior to the grass chads?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 13:54:19 No.45454982 Report

Quoted By: >>45455144

>>45454853
It doesnt even deserve B imo

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 14:29:03 No.45455144 Report

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>>45454982
Cinderace doesn't even deserve to exist

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 14:36:01 No.45455180 Report

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>>45448023
>Karenfags thinking they have rights

Maybe try to think WHY the Pokémon that are being used are being used

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 14:44:52 No.45455229 Report

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>>45447803
>Pheromosa is the only Bug type left

Damn

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 14:55:18 No.45455281 Report

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>>45454705
But muh slow frail mix attacker.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 15:02:24 No.45455336 Report

Quoted By: >>45455341

>>45454853
>we were supposed to be the new Greninja!
Tbf Greninia wasn’t exactly a mainstay of VGC either

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 15:03:19 No.45455341 Report

Quoted By: >>45455408

>>45455336
but it was the best starter of its gen, even better than Charizard and Venusaur
Cinderace is always behind Incineroar and Rillaboom

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Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 15:13:48 No.45455406 Report

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>>45454853
But it is fulfilling its role as the new Greninja

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 15:13:57 No.45455408 Report

Quoted By: >>45463768

>>45455341
>even better than Charizard and Venusaur
No it wasn’t

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 16:41:54 No.45455900 Report

Quoted By: >>45456165

>>45447803
Surprised gastro and mamoswine are doing fairly good

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 16:56:57 No.45456003 Report

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>>45453908
>glass cannon
ironically, Galar Zapdos has better bulk than Kanto Zapdos.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 17:20:16 No.45456165 Report

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>>45455900
I think their ground type stab is key to their success.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 17:46:00 No.45456379 Report

Quoted By: >>45456783

>>45454705
Under MAX it's a really fat motherfucker so it has time to get buffs and sweep for a bit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 18:32:06 No.45456783 Report

Quoted By: >>45456802 >>45456891

>>45456379
>>45454851
But everything is fat under max. That's not enough to boost him up the tiers this much.

>>45454705
I suspect the reason it does better in Galar is because max darkness fixes its main weakness: 2x weakness to fairy attacks, which are mostly special.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 18:35:13 No.45456802 Report

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>>45456783
Guzzlord is extra fat under MAX is the thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 18:35:53 No.45456811 Report

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>urshifu dark
>not s
Do they even play

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 18:45:46 No.45456874 Report

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>>45453861
We fully expect to never see you again when they all humiliate you and you quietly slink back in disgrace

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 18:47:49 No.45456891 Report

Quoted By: >>45456957

>>45456783
Do you not understand how multiplication works? 2x100 is way less than 2x150

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 18:50:52 No.45456914 Report

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>>45450710
>Implying
Inteleon was always not very strong, the element of surprise is very much needed to win with him, so the more he stays unpopular the better it will be for Intelebros to win

t. just blew up another fagget with Soak + Thunderbolt

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 18:57:16 No.45456957 Report

Quoted By: >>45456985

>>45456891
And you don't understand how the damage formula works. Doubling the max HP is equivalent to doubling his pisspoor Def And Sp.Def.
Guzzlord isn't getting any special benefit out of Dynamax bulk. He needs double the damage to die in dynamax, just like every fucking mon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 19:00:44 No.45456985 Report

Quoted By: >>45457081

>>45456957
It's still very good at TR, just what allymon can I take it with?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 19:03:34 No.45457011 Report

Quoted By: >>45457230

>>45447803
What made the regis good?

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Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 19:10:18 No.45457081 Report

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>>45456985
Pikalytics stats show TR Dusclops is the favourite ally. Which makes sense.
The stats are probably skewed because of how few people use Guzzlord though.

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Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 19:22:59 No.45457178 Report

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>S Rank
APOLOGIZE

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 19:28:46 No.45457230 Report

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>>45457011
You know those meme strats with G-Wheezing people were talking about early in the gen's lifetime? Yeah, turns out sitting Gigas next to the thing results in pure cancer happening, Body Press is also a fucking blessing for the both of them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 22:07:53 No.45458402 Report

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>>45448023
maybe try and get a higher rank, NUT is what people are using now

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 22:30:12 No.45458601 Report

Quoted By: >>45458767 >>45458768 >>45463990

I hate G Moltres so much
What’s the best counter?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 22:46:44 No.45458767 Report

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>>45458601
Clown Coal

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Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 22:46:46 No.45458768 Report

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>>45458601

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Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2020 22:55:12 No.45458842 Report

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>>45447854
>>45447934
>>45451923
>>45453718
>>45453846
>>45454700

H E
I S
H E R E.

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Anonymous Wed 18 Nov 2020 00:44:47 No.45459753 Report

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>>45454853
Enjoy it while it lasts.
Something tells me that GF will nerf the shit out of Rillaboom for outperforming their shill bunny.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Nov 2020 02:35:00 No.45460730 Report

Quoted By: >>45460952 >>45461076

>>45447803
>Regigigas
I'm assuming it's meme strats+DMax.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Nov 2020 02:54:14 No.45460952 Report

Quoted By: >>45461005

>>45460730
Neutralizing Gas turning on its rape mode while nerfing the fuck out of the opposition does wonders for it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Nov 2020 02:59:11 No.45461005 Report

Quoted By: >>45461020

>>45460952
Then where is G-Weezing on the viability rankings?
One would assume he'd be ranked alongside Regigigas

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Nov 2020 03:01:29 No.45461020 Report

Quoted By: >>45461044

>>45461005
regular Weezing has it too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Nov 2020 03:03:52 No.45461044 Report

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>>45461020
Huh I actually didn't know that

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Nov 2020 03:06:50 No.45461076 Report

Quoted By: >>45461821 >>45461917 >>45462908

>>45460730
it's meme strats, it's like how smogon puts shit in ou just because retards love their meme mons instead of actually being good

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Nov 2020 03:16:03 No.45461172 Report

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I don't have swsh, may someone please show me the spreads of the pokemon under this rental code? They're pretty important because the team is reliant on max airstream but also trick room.
Rental Code: 0000 0001 BP9B MX
Team is from cybertron: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-w5Wa8UuiwE

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Anonymous Wed 18 Nov 2020 03:24:40 No.45461242 Report

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>>45448023
The C in VGC stands for coockiecutter

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Anonymous Wed 18 Nov 2020 03:37:32 No.45461356 Report

Quoted By: >>45461538

>>45448023
Welcome to VGC, anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Nov 2020 04:04:36 No.45461538 Report

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>>45461356
Oh man, just look at all that D I V E R S I T Y.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Nov 2020 04:55:15 No.45461821 Report

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>>45461076
It's a meme you gotta respect, which makes it better than most of the garbage. If only neutralizing gas also stopped items from working as well then some waves might actually happen

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Nov 2020 05:14:32 No.45461917 Report

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>>45461076
It's a meme, yeah, but a angry gigas is still miserable to deal with.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Nov 2020 05:40:02 No.45462017 Report

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>>45447803
Some thoughts:

I have no idea how Urshifu-S isn't S Rank. Ignoring intimidate, screens, and protect is absurd, shits on Metagross and it's the main reason Fini is hovering at about 50% usage. Tar and Staka being A-Rank also seem generous given they don't match up well vs any of the main S-Rank tanks. Ferro might be A-Rank, Iron Defense-Leech goes crazy against both of the mentioned S-Rank tanks. Mamo could also be A-Rank, matches up well against a lot of the other A-Rank offensive threats.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Nov 2020 08:45:29 No.45462908 Report

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>>45461076
Smogon's tiers are based on usage, not conscious choice. If retards trend toward using a shitmon, it ends up in a high tier despite not deserving it.
Viability rankings need to be made by an actual person. An obvious shitmon would still be low in viability because it's not good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Nov 2020 12:30:16 No.45463768 Report

Quoted By: >>45464105

>>45455408
Better than base Charizard and Venusaur.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Nov 2020 13:10:02 No.45463990 Report

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>>45458601
>I hate G Moltres so much
why?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Nov 2020 13:29:12 No.45464105 Report

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>>45463768
>better than base Venusaur
No it wasn’t

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Nov 2020 17:26:07 No.45465829 Report

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This is a pretty shit list. Glastrier and Metagross are on the way out.

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