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Anonymous Mon 23 Nov 2020 18:58:22 No.45512399 View View Reply Original Report

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>Gen 9 pseudo

What tier, /vp/?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Nov 2020 18:59:23 No.45512404 Report

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>>45512399
depends on movepool

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Nov 2020 19:04:44 No.45512457 Report

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>>45512399
>More dragon pseudos

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Anonymous Mon 23 Nov 2020 19:17:19 No.45512546 Report

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>>45512457
Be careful what you wish for

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Nov 2020 19:17:36 No.45512547 Report

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OU for sure, even if it only has dragon pulse, flash canon and flamethrower. They always have thunderbolt too don't they

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Nov 2020 19:23:50 No.45512599 Report

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>>45512457
Masuda said he makes Dragon pseudos because people expect them
So we're only getting Dragon pseudos from now until forever

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Nov 2020 19:24:53 No.45512604 Report

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>>45512599
When did he say this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Nov 2020 19:26:10 No.45512619 Report

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>>45512399
>duraludon but min/maxed
lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Nov 2020 19:29:24 No.45512653 Report

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>>45512599
Holy fucking shit. Just wake me up when Masuda fucking retires.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Nov 2020 19:29:44 No.45512658 Report

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>>45512619
>Duraludon
>116 speed
Duraludon is a nerfed Dialga, a slow special attacking dragon.
OP's pic is like Mega Latios without a forced item slot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Nov 2020 19:31:21 No.45512677 Report

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>>45512546
sex

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Nov 2020 19:32:01 No.45512682 Report

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>>45512653
retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Nov 2020 19:32:51 No.45512691 Report

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>>45512546
honestly wouldn't care if we got this
wouldn't use it myself but would appreciate the variety even if it's just gardevoir 2

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Nov 2020 20:03:06 No.45512888 Report

Quoted By: >>45518146

One day, one day, we will have the 100/70/130/110/130/60 normal/ghost pseudo we deserved.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Nov 2020 20:38:19 No.45513207 Report

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>>45512546
This would make a good regional Kirlia evo

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Nov 2020 20:39:33 No.45513219 Report

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>>45512399
There will be no gen 9. I will stop it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Nov 2020 20:46:32 No.45513283 Report

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A little too minmaxed compared to most of the recent pseudos which are mixed attackers
i'd say pretty good, as most pokemon that can kill it are outsped, considering that it's only weakness is fighting. It likely falls apart to something like excadrill or conkeldurr

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Nov 2020 22:49:09 No.45514195 Report

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>>45512399
Low OU

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Nov 2020 22:52:25 No.45514231 Report

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>>45512546
le sinnoh face

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Nov 2020 22:52:55 No.45514235 Report

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>>45512399
UU. Really good stat distribution with mediocore movepool is the direction GF seems to be going towards

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Nov 2020 23:36:40 No.45514521 Report

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>>45512399
Fuck off with your minmaxing, cunt

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Nov 2020 01:34:35 No.45515570 Report

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>>45512399
It should get some new 90 damage 95 accuracy dragon type special move. Otherwise, drop the dragon type and go for something no pseudo has had yet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Nov 2020 01:36:45 No.45515597 Report

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>>45512546
I actually really like this. Using it to slay dragons would be kino.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Nov 2020 03:07:52 No.45516315 Report

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>>45512546
Still better than another generic dragon.

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Anonymous Tue 24 Nov 2020 03:14:29 No.45516355 Report

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>>45512546
I'll name mine Lenneth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Nov 2020 05:58:00 No.45517422 Report

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That things broken as fuck. Only weak to fighting. Fast, bulky, hits hard. Will be ubers

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Nov 2020 06:05:44 No.45517466 Report

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>>45512399
>noooooo that's minmaxing noooooooooooo

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Nov 2020 06:09:15 No.45517484 Report

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>>45517466
yes. If you design a pseudo and it doesn't have mixed attacking stats then you're doing it wrong.

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Anonymous Tue 24 Nov 2020 06:10:40 No.45517493 Report

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>>45512399
>has high spatt
>has better phyatt movepool
>doesn't get dd
Every time

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Nov 2020 08:04:56 No.45518101 Report

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>>45512546
Looks a bit too Gardevoiry, but I wouldn't mind a Valkyrie pseudo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Nov 2020 08:15:07 No.45518146 Report

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>>45512888
>Normal/Ghost
Those two types are mutually exclusive

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Nov 2020 08:28:13 No.45518192 Report

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>>45517466
i dont think you know what minmaxing means

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Nov 2020 08:33:15 No.45518210 Report

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>>45518192
He''s mocking people who say that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Nov 2020 10:14:01 No.45518598 Report

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>>45512599
If this is true, I hate Masuda.
If this is fake, I hate you.

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Anonymous Tue 24 Nov 2020 10:43:39 No.45518685 Report

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>>45512399
Does anyone thinking this creature can be a pseudo legendary Pokemon ?

https://allaboutdragons.com/dragons/Shen

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Anonymous Tue 24 Nov 2020 10:45:09 No.45518687 Report

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Anonymous Tue 24 Nov 2020 17:44:18 No.45520743 Report

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bump

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Nov 2020 17:46:44 No.45520763 Report

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>>45518210
>a pseudo with a 60 base attacking stat
>not minmaxed

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Nov 2020 17:48:46 No.45520782 Report

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>>45512546
I'd take Gardevoir 2 over Lati@s/Garchomp 3.

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Anonymous Tue 24 Nov 2020 18:44:27 No.45521289 Report

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>>45518101

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Nov 2020 22:35:21 No.45523365 Report

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>>45520763
This. The lowest we've gotten was 80 for Garchomp's SpA.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Nov 2020 22:46:05 No.45523459 Report

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>>45512399
>does not get draco meteor
>does not get nasty plot
Either a shit pseudos or a random mythical.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Nov 2020 22:48:13 No.45523476 Report

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>>45512399
>not a mixed attacker
Mythical confirmed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Nov 2020 23:06:53 No.45523618 Report

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>>45512399
Latios is OU, would trading psychic for steel and 20 points from spdef to spatk drop it below Latios if the movepool isn't trash?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Nov 2020 23:14:04 No.45523689 Report

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>>45512546
I wish for a fairy ghost counter part to top's dragon. Like gen 3

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Nov 2020 01:14:35 No.45524534 Report

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>>45523459
Every dragon-type gets Draco Meteor.
The pseudo would also get Steel Beam, because every steel-type gets that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Nov 2020 01:16:12 No.45524548 Report

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>>45518192
>>45518210
>>45520763

I'm actually mocking people who give a fuck about that

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Nov 2020 03:26:06 No.45525455 Report

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>>45512399
>steel type
>fast and frail rather than powerful and bulky

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Anonymous Wed 25 Nov 2020 03:35:59 No.45525516 Report

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>>45512399
> flash canon for stab

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Nov 2020 03:36:27 No.45525519 Report

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sorta hoping for an electric/ice pseudo, based off of thundersnow and like, i dunno, a fucking komodo dragon
would be based getting a non-dragon dragon

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Anonymous Wed 25 Nov 2020 04:15:57 No.45525782 Report

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>>45521289
Garnet has some god tier designs

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Nov 2020 06:56:44 No.45526749 Report

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>>45525519
It'd be based just to get a non-dragon for once.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Nov 2020 07:59:27 No.45527015 Report

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>>45518685
Hardly anything "pseudo-" about it

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Anonymous Wed 25 Nov 2020 10:38:55 No.45527643 Report

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>>45518685
Uh...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Nov 2020 10:48:23 No.45527672 Report

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>>45525782
A lot of the pokemon look like worse versions of prexisting pokemon. The original looking pokemon have shit colors, and I can't say a single design impressed me. They're all either overdesigned or boring as fuck, and none of them look interesting.

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Anonymous Wed 25 Nov 2020 11:07:52 No.45527727 Report

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>>45525782
>this is now what constitutes god-tier Pokemon designs
Has Turner and gen 8 rotted our sense of taste to this degree, or is this just bait

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Nov 2020 11:10:28 No.45527738 Report

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>new pseudo is a steel type that can have two different final forms, depending on their stats when they reach the evolution level (around 50s). its two first forms are similar to a metallic gecko
>if Attack is higher, it evolves into a bulky physical attacker Steel/Dragon. Signature move is Chrome Claw, which has a chance of raising Atk, Def or Spe after being used. Its based on a kaiju.
>if Sp. Attack is higher, it evolves into a fast special attacker Steel/Flying. Signature move is Chrome Wind, which has a chance of raising Sp. Atk, Sp. Def or Spe after being used. Its based on a wyvern.
>both forms have the ability Chrome Coat, which reduces the damage of field hazards like Hail, Sandstorm, Stealth Rock, Spikes,etc.

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Anonymous Wed 25 Nov 2020 11:21:44 No.45527773 Report

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>>45523618
> would trading psychic for steel and 20 points from spdef to spatk drop it below Latios if the movepool isn't trash?

It would be Uber with just Draco Meteor and Flash Cannon. Even without setup options, dropping 150 SpA Draco Meteors every turn will destroy teams.

80/100/90 isn't great bulk, but backed by a solid defensive typing with only 1 weakness, it's great.

Latios is weak to all the best offensive types except for Fighting. Dark, Dragon, Ice, Ghost, Fairy, and worst of all U-Turn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Nov 2020 11:25:03 No.45527791 Report

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>>45512546
If it were sharper around the edges I'd be about it

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Anonymous Wed 25 Nov 2020 11:25:11 No.45527792 Report

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>>45523365
>The lowest we've gotten was 80 for Garchomp's SpA.

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Anonymous Wed 25 Nov 2020 11:27:37 No.45527802 Report

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>>45520763
With 60 attack it can't make any use out of Dragon Dance. The entire physical movepool is fucked and without Psyshock like Latios, it's completely walled by Blissey and Chansey.
Not that it isn't Uber, but 60 attack isn't the problem here. It would be stronger with 60 speed and 116 Attack because then it's an insane mixed attacker that cucks other Dragon types.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Nov 2020 11:34:25 No.45527827 Report

Quoted By: >>45527844

>>45527792
I think they were arguing specifically about attacking stats. They're usually somewhat mixed, even clear physical attackers have higher than average special attack stats

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Nov 2020 11:38:35 No.45527844 Report

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>>45527827
As said >>45527802 it's even more broken with 116 Attack and 60 Speed. Compare,

>252 SpA Life Orb Hydreigon Draco Meteor vs. 240 HP / 0 SpD Arceus: 231-273 (52.3 - 61.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
>0 SpA Life Orb Duraludon Draco Meteor vs. 240 HP / 0 SpD Arceus: 227-269 (51.4 - 60.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

An uninvested Draco Meteor off 154 SpA is as powerful as a fully invested Draco from Hydreigon. 116 Attack is more than enough to break Toxapex with Earthquake, not that it would need to, and at +1 it outspeeds Keldeo and other common Fighting types.
Nothing can switch in and nothing is safe, and without a Fighting move its too bulky to kill with faster offense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Nov 2020 11:43:27 No.45527861 Report

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>>45512399
Only gets dragonbreath and mirror shot

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