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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 19:28:20 No.45558574 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>45558615 >>45558632 >>45558674 >>45558695 >>45559560 >>45559696 >>45560732 >>45561319 >>45562069 >>45562444 >>45562558 >>45563937 >>45564099 >>45564766 >>45573060

Can icefags finally stop complaining?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 19:31:34 No.45558605 Report

Quoted By: >>45558901 >>45559661 >>45562069 >>45562177

Why would they? A couple of Ice types being good doesn't suddenly make Ice good and all the Ice types that existed before are just gonna become even worse in comparison to newer ones getting extra special treatment to make sure they can compete. It's an insult to fans of the type, not a fix.
Also Glastrier is a fucking awful design.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 19:32:31 No.45558615 Report

Quoted By: >>45558623

>>45558574
Those are 2 of the ugliest designs I've ever seen outside gen 4

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 19:33:25 No.45558623 Report

Quoted By: >>45559646

>>45558615
>hating Bearded Darm
Fag

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 19:35:05 No.45558632 Report

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>>45558574
I want more like Mega Glalie, Mamoswine, Weavile, and post-IoA Froslass and less that are overwhelmingly shit or overwhelmingly broken.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 19:38:25 No.45558655 Report

Quoted By: >>45559249

>Why would they? A couple of Ice types being good doesn't suddenly make Ice good and all the Ice types that existed before are just gonna become even worse in comparison to newer ones getting extra special treatment to make sure they can compete. It's an insult to fans of the type, not a fix. Also Glastrier is a fucking awful design.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 19:42:31 No.45558674 Report

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>>45558574
The type needs some adjustments for all the defensive ice-types we have. The only good one is Lapras because of its Aurora Veil G-max move, which is gonna be dropped after this gen anyway
This is definitely their competitive peak though, except for maybe way back in Gen 1 kek

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 19:42:51 No.45558679 Report

Quoted By: >>45559249

>>>Why would they? A couple of Ice types being good doesn't suddenly make Ice good and all the Ice types that existed before are just gonna become even worse in comparison to newer ones getting extra special treatment to make sure they can compete. It's an insult to fans of the type, not a fix. Also Glastrier is a fucking awful design.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 19:44:22 No.45558695 Report

Quoted By: >>45560489

>>45558574
The horse needs eyes and a better tail and the design would be fixed. Too bad it looks creepy and terrible.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 20:09:43 No.45558901 Report

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>>45558605
/thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 20:52:53 No.45559249 Report

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>>45558655
>>45558679
Go home.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 21:29:08 No.45559521 Report

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It says a lot about a type that the only viable mons have insane abilities and BST to compensate for their nonexistant defensive value.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 21:32:48 No.45559560 Report

Quoted By: >>45559669 >>45561162

>>45558574
Gigantamax Lapras, Eiscue, and Mr. Mime Galar are pretty good too. This gen has been kind to Ice-types.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 21:42:28 No.45559646 Report

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>>45558623
and a UNGA BUNGA to you to young lady

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 21:43:51 No.45559661 Report

Quoted By: >>45559710 >>45559731 >>45565177

>>45558605
>Glastrier is a fucking awful design
Imagine having such shit taste

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 21:44:41 No.45559669 Report

Quoted By: >>45559767 >>45561352 >>45562159

>>45559560
I still can't believe how much worse Mr Rime is to Galar Mr Mime. How did they screw that up

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 21:48:13 No.45559696 Report

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>>45558574
No until we get SNOW weather

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 21:49:15 No.45559710 Report

Quoted By: >>45561237

>>45559661
It is its just ice horse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 21:51:03 No.45559731 Report

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>>45559661
I like Glastrier but it doesn't look like a legendary in the slightest
...still far better than Spectrier though

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 21:54:35 No.45559767 Report

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>>45559669
The Dusknoir of this decade

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 23:05:49 No.45560489 Report

Quoted By: >>45560619

>>45558695
Calling it creepy is giving it too much credit. It's a nothing design, it doesn't bring any reaction out of me at all. It's a horse with frozen bits.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 23:16:30 No.45560593 Report

Quoted By: >>45560676

Everyone was saying that Glastrier is broken, but he usually seems like dead weight whenever I fight one. What's up with that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 23:18:30 No.45560619 Report

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>>45560489
I meant creepy as in it's unsettling because it has no face, basically. Not actually creepy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 23:24:12 No.45560676 Report

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>>45560593
It hits hard enough to OHKO most Pokemon and is bulky enough to avoid being OHKO'd by most Pokemon. I'm scared of the fucker because it usually gets a KO when it comes out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 23:28:40 No.45560732 Report

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>>45558574
my beautiful ice bros

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Nov 2020 00:16:23 No.45561162 Report

Quoted By: >>45561243

>>45559560
Really? eiscue and mr mime are untiered in the fanfic meta

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Nov 2020 00:26:56 No.45561237 Report

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>>45559710
And it looks fine? It's not winning any awards but it's not offensively bad. A solid 5 or 6 out of 10.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Nov 2020 00:27:45 No.45561243 Report

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>>45561162
>fanfic meta
no one cares

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Nov 2020 00:39:07 No.45561319 Report

Quoted By: >>45562126 >>45573084

>>45558574
Why would I to begin with? I play RBY where four of the five ice types are viable in OU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Nov 2020 00:44:16 No.45561352 Report

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>>45559669
>Less speed
>Tries to be a mixed attacker
Recipes for disaster

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Nov 2020 02:16:22 No.45562069 Report

Quoted By: >>45562163

>>45558574
No because once Gen 9 comes and Dyna is removed for the next gimmick like always, Glastrier falls. He is only great because he has enough fat after Dyna to make usage of weakness policy and sweep.

>>45558605
Just buff the type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Nov 2020 02:24:13 No.45562126 Report

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>>45561319
unironically based

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Nov 2020 02:25:34 No.45562135 Report

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Frosmoth is also Volcarona light, it’s dangerous especially since it’s special defense gets boosted with it’s ability

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Nov 2020 02:29:27 No.45562159 Report

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>>45559669

Mr Rime is better attacking wise though.
Mr Mime G is only good defensively which is a bad idea

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Nov 2020 02:29:57 No.45562163 Report

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>>45562069
>Buff the type
This is unnecessary. All Ice Pokemon in the future need is
>More variable move pool
Seriously, most Ice types have pretty mediocre coverage.
>To be more so glass cannons with speed, and less defensive
That's the true issue. Most Ice types are slow, and are built like defense mons when that's not their strength. I think the only exception to this is like, Mamoswine, and Avalugg, but that's mainly due to their move pools being good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Nov 2020 02:31:26 No.45562177 Report

Quoted By: >>45562207

>>45558605
Ice is fine though. It's just too slow usually.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Nov 2020 02:36:09 No.45562207 Report

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>>45562177
And that makes it extremely viable in doubles

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Nov 2020 02:36:57 No.45562212 Report

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>the cursed 70 speed that means you can’t do shit in Trick Room since it’s stuck in the middle

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Nov 2020 02:40:08 No.45562243 Report

Quoted By: >>45562419

Slush Rush is a good fix, fixes the problem or being slow, but it needs to be on more Pokémon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Nov 2020 02:42:20 No.45562262 Report

Quoted By: >>45562277 >>45562354

Who is the better Hail setter? Obama or A-Tails?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Nov 2020 02:44:42 No.45562277 Report

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>>45562262
A-Tales is that even a question?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Nov 2020 02:55:49 No.45562354 Report

Quoted By: >>45562518 >>45562523

>>45562262

If we still had Mega’s, M-Abamasnow for sure, but we don’t.
A-Tails is faster, which means you can set Aurora Veil faster

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Nov 2020 03:06:17 No.45562419 Report

Quoted By: >>45562462 >>45573864

>>45562243
Hail teams stack too much ice weaknesses and doesn't have a Venusaur/Excadrill equivalent.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Nov 2020 03:08:34 No.45562429 Report

Quoted By: >>45562591 >>45563945

Why does Hail still not boost the power of Ice moves, that's dumb

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Nov 2020 03:10:58 No.45562444 Report

Quoted By:

>>45558574
Hail should increase Ice type's defenses by 25% or something

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Nov 2020 03:14:55 No.45562462 Report

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>>45562419

>Excadrill Equivalent
Alolan Sandslash and Beartic

>Venasaur Equivalent
Regular Articuno

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Nov 2020 03:23:41 No.45562518 Report

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>>45562354
Wouldn't being slower be optimal to ensure you win the turn 0 weather war?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Nov 2020 03:24:29 No.45562523 Report

Quoted By: >>45563226

>>45562354
>If we still had Mega’s, M-Abamasnow for sure
nice bait

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Anonymous Sun 29 Nov 2020 03:30:36 No.45562558 Report

Quoted By: >>45562593

>>45558574
Post ice cuties

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Nov 2020 03:36:22 No.45562591 Report

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>>45562429
Because it has Blizzard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Nov 2020 03:36:54 No.45562593 Report

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>>45562558
Nice cutes lil anon..

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Anonymous Sun 29 Nov 2020 05:32:35 No.45563226 Report

Quoted By: >>45563237

>>45562523

How is it bait
Look at it

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 29 Nov 2020 05:34:16 No.45563237 Report

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>>45563226
How is it not bait

Look at it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Nov 2020 05:48:59 No.45563318 Report

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Ice should have resisted Fairy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Nov 2020 08:07:58 No.45563937 Report

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>>45558574
No.
Most ice types are still shit.
A couple of them getting crazy good stats and abilities just makes those couple good, not the rest of the type.
Ice itself needs a buff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Nov 2020 08:09:47 No.45563945 Report

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>>45562429
Hail should boost the defense of Ice types so that it parallels Sand and its effect on Rock types.
Also, Slush Rush should be distributed to some non-Ice types. And an ability that raises damage in hail should be made.
The real problem with hail is that there's no reason to use it other than Aurora Veil.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Nov 2020 08:12:28 No.45563958 Report

Quoted By: >>45569744

Frosmoth should've just been an Ice type Volcarona

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Anonymous Sun 29 Nov 2020 08:57:23 No.45564099 Report

Quoted By: >>45564766

>>45558574
Adding to that
>Lapras GMax
>A-Ninetales
>Kyurem(-B)
>Vanilluxe
All saw decent amounts of success this year.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Nov 2020 12:58:06 No.45564766 Report

Quoted By: >>45573935

>>45558574
>busted stats and ability
>legendary
>>45564099
>aurora veil setter
>aurora veil setter
>fucking box legend
>aurora veil setter
Ice types in general are still trash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Nov 2020 13:04:17 No.45564794 Report

Quoted By: >>45564829 >>45569744

>almost year 2000 + 21
>Ice still isnt super effective to water
No, freeze dry doesnt count. I just want this and dont mind ice defensive side.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Nov 2020 13:12:23 No.45564829 Report

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>>45564794
Honestly this.
>hurr hurr but throwing ice at water just melts the ice
Ice type represents cold in general just as much as it represents solid water.
Cold can freeze water, so it makes sense for ice to be strong against water.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Nov 2020 13:44:46 No.45564958 Report

Quoted By: >>45569750

Okay what about that one time Vaniluxxe was used for Snow Warning

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Nov 2020 14:37:05 No.45565177 Report

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>>45559661
Do glastrierfags resonate with the design due to the fact it doesn't have eyes?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Nov 2020 15:16:51 No.45565353 Report

Quoted By: >>45569750

They don’t know about the Swift Swim Beatric though

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Nov 2020 16:24:06 No.45565722 Report

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Everybody forgets that Cloyster is also half Ice

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Nov 2020 16:38:13 No.45565790 Report

Quoted By: >>45569750

Slush Rush Arctozolt though

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Anonymous Sun 29 Nov 2020 17:08:13 No.45566016 Report

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>He doesn’t use Snow Cloak Froslass holding Bright Powder

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Nov 2020 19:52:21 No.45567228 Report

Quoted By: >>45569659 >>45569750

Rate my Hail team
>A-Tails
>Froslass
>Arctozolt
>A-Sandslash
>Cloyster
>Frosmoth

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2020 00:45:39 No.45569531 Report

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Ice types won't be happy until they get more resists. To finally make those hundreds of defensive ice types usable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2020 00:45:56 No.45569534 Report

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Never

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2020 00:59:43 No.45569659 Report

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>>45567228
>hail team
Anon, it's trash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2020 01:10:04 No.45569744 Report

Quoted By: >>45569804

>>45563958
Isn't Frosmoth already an ice Volcarona?
>>45564794
>Ice being SE against Water
This doesn't particularly give Ice types themselves any proper edge, though. All that would do is give people more incentive to use ICE moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2020 01:11:35 No.45569750 Report

Quoted By: >>45571617 >>45573235

>>45565790
>>45565353
>>45567228
>>45564958
>Still using Weather teams in 2020
Guys.. the Weather Wars are over..

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2020 01:17:56 No.45569797 Report

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>Ice now resists Water, and Ground
>Rock weakness removed, it now hits normally
>Hail boosts either the Speed, or Defense by +1
>Type in general has more coverage, like Water attacks
Fixed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2020 01:18:43 No.45569804 Report

Quoted By: >>45573535

>>45569744
Fuck no Frosmoth isn't Ice Volcorona. It's way worse in almost every way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2020 05:21:57 No.45571617 Report

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>>45569750
This. Terrain teams are the new hotness.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2020 09:08:44 No.45573060 Report

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>>45558574
I'll stop complaining when ice types in general become good, and not just the ones with OP abilities or legendary stats.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2020 09:11:46 No.45573084 Report

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>>45561319
>Gen 1 Ice Types
>Jynx is gay
>Dewgong is gay
>Legendaries are for fags
>Lapras is based
>Cloyster is based
Good thing you only need one, I guess, plus a possible backup

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2020 09:41:23 No.45573235 Report

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>>45569750
>Introduces Barraskewda
>over

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2020 10:46:56 No.45573535 Report

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>>45569804
It's ice volcarona in the sense that it gets quiver dance and has some stats to back it up, as well as packing a 4x weakness to the pebbles. It still has less bulk, special attack and speed, as well as an objectively worse typing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2020 12:15:04 No.45573864 Report

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>>45562419
The Venusaur equivalent of hail is Arctozolt, unfortunately it is fairly slow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2020 12:30:57 No.45573935 Report

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>>45564766
>it’s bad if you ignore the things that make it good
every time

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